The Submissive Jesus

[webmdave]

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After putting a comedy video on MySpace, having it featured, getting over 160,000 views and then having it censored and my account closed after angry Christians demanded it be removed, I see how dangerous a deluded majority can be.

 

You can see it at www.thesubmissivejesus.com.

 

I've discovered that it all boils down to brain wiring: either your brain is wired to worship magic or it isn't, either it's wired to utilize logic or it isn't, either it's analytical of myths or it isn't.

 

I'm sure that this is the last century for religion. Science and technology is advancing too swiftly for any primitive mindset to continue. Naturally, there will always be holdouts (some people still think the moon landing was faked), but the vast majority will smarten up as technology advances... or they will destroy themselves first and the evolutionary process will begin again.

Press release:

 

Promo ads for "The Submissive Jesus Prayer Answering Talking Head," a novelty item created by filmmaker Mark Pirro, has been censored off the popular website, Myspace.com. The toy, which made its debut in February 2007, has been sparking controversy amongst some religious communities, and was even the topic of a Reno ABC TV Web and Email poll. Pirro has been selling a steady amount of these toys, primarily through online sites like Ebay and its own website www.thesubmissivejesus.com. However, as the toy started gaining popularity, the number of protests began to grow. Last month, Pirro's Youtube account, which had over 90 videos was closed. Reason given? Inappropriate content. The Submissive Jesus videos were less than 3% of the videos loaded, yet they all got pulled.

 

On March 17th, the website myspace.com put one of Pirro's Submissive Jesus ads on their front page as a featured video, attracting over 160,000 views and over 3000 comments. Many of the comments were hateful and vulgar, coming from angered 'Christians.' Many threatened to contact myspace and get the videos removed. Well yesterday, they succeeded. Pirro's videos were removed, the comments were deleted and the account was shut down. "I was stunned when I tried to log on yesterday," Pirro fumed, "I was wiped out from the myspace community, like it never existed." The Submissive Jesus website has been getting many emails from supporters expressing support and anger. One email states, "There was nothing obscene, vulgar or indecent in those videos. Who makes the decision of what stays and what goes these days?" Another email simply says, "Welcome to the future. Watch your words or you will be squashed."

 

Pirro has been an independent filmmaker for over 25 years. His films have always been a bit controversial; like the 1988 cult film, Curse of the Queerwolf - the story of a man who turns gay when the moon rises; and Color-Blinded, his 1998 movie about an African American woman who turns white and blonde overnight. He is currently in production on "The God Complex," a comedy re-telling of the Bible. The Submissive Jesus Prayer Answering Talking Head was originally produced as a product to be featured in the movie, but became so popular with family, crew and friends, that Pirro decided to turn it into a real toy.

 

Myspace has not commented.

 

"I plan on being very vocal about this!" Pirro says, "Myspace didn't have a problem with this video when they featured it on their front page. It was only after attention was really brought to it that they reacted. I'm urging all advocates of free speech to bombard myspace with calls, emails, etc. The mythical Jesus was silenced and resurrected in three days. It may take us a little longer, but Submissive Jesus will rise again!" Every generation needs a martyr.

 

To monitor comments posted to this topic, use .

 

http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2007/05...sive-jesus.html

[Grandpa Harley]

Amazon refused my review of "Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters" as inappropriate... yet seeing some of the crud they do approve I can only see that it was religious bias, rather than a serious objection...

 

Here, for your consideration, is the review:

 

I purchased this book with high hopes of it introducing something sorely lacking in Pauline/Petrine Christianity over the past Millennium - spirituality. Despite the claims in the synopsis, it does not. It manages to take comments from both scripture (the NRSV from the state of the English, it is probably credited somewhere) and the Star Wars films(Episodes I,IV,V and VI only) and makes them both so short and devoid of context that they have little or no meaning. The author then proceeds to place his own, and in my view, subverting context on the comments.

 

Basically, he has taken both Christian canon and The Star Wars one and just sucked the life out of it until the husks are no better than you'd expect to be doorstepped by Evangelists with.

 

As a prima facie example: The chapter 'Always Two, There Are, a Master and an Apprentice'.

 

In the context of Star Wars this describes the structure of the Sith, since if they gather in larger groups than that, they kill each other. The author completely ignores this concept and goes into the nature of the Rabbi - Disciple relationship, with some pretty sweeping and unsupportable statements about Jesus' ministry, rather than expanding on the nature of 'The Dark' and why they seldom can form large groups in terms of Christian mythos.

 

The book is littered with such misrepresentations, or just plain distortions, of the source materials, both Christian and otherwise.

 

The claims that he is returning to Lewis'/ Tolkien's 'One True Myth' stance (which even then was nonsense, since the one true myth is based mostly on Pagan Solar imagery and a few hundred years of editing out anything that actually empowers the individual)

 

A wholly disappointing book, unless you're looking for something to reinforce previous prejudices.

 

 

(This was rejected by Amazon as 'Too Critical' which makes something of a mockery of their Reviewing request)

[Jun]

Amazon refused my review of "Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters" as inappropriate... yet seeing some of the crud they do approve I can only see that it was religious bias, rather than a serious objection...

 

Here, for your consideration, is the review:

 

I purchased this book with high hopes of it introducing something sorely lacking in Pauline/Petrine Christianity over the past Millennium - spirituality. Despite the claims in the synopsis, it does not. It manages to take comments from both scripture (the NRSV from the state of the English, it is probably credited somewhere) and the Star Wars films(Episodes I,IV,V and VI only) and makes them both so short and devoid of context that they have little or no meaning. The author then proceeds to place his own, and in my view, subverting context on the comments.

 

Basically, he has taken both Christian canon and The Star Wars one and just sucked the life out of it until the husks are no better than you'd expect to be doorstepped by Evangelists with.

 

As a prima facie example: The chapter 'Always Two, There Are, a Master and an Apprentice'.

 

In the context of Star Wars this describes the structure of the Sith, since if they gather in larger groups than that, they kill each other. The author completely ignores this concept and goes into the nature of the Rabbi - Disciple relationship, with some pretty sweeping and unsupportable statements about Jesus' ministry, rather than expanding on the nature of 'The Dark' and why they seldom can form large groups in terms of Christian mythos.

 

The book is littered with such misrepresentations, or just plain distortions, of the source materials, both Christian and otherwise.

 

The claims that he is returning to Lewis'/ Tolkien's 'One True Myth' stance (which even then was nonsense, since the one true myth is based mostly on Pagan Solar imagery and a few hundred years of editing out anything that actually empowers the individual)

 

A wholly disappointing book, unless you're looking for something to reinforce previous prejudices.

 

 

(This was rejected by Amazon as 'Too Critical' which makes something of a mockery of their Reviewing request)

 

According to an interview a couple of years ago on StarWars.com Lucas claimed that 99% of his inspiration fort he Jedi and their "faith" was based on Zen. The dark side represents mans delusions (hatred, fear, anxiety).

[Grandpa Harley]

http://www.wunderkabinett.co.uk/emporium/i...msg2975#msg2975

 

It reviews a couple of other books on the subject, one by a man trained by Thich Nhat Hahn, and the other a Daoist surgeon...

 

did you think it was, interms of other stuff on amazon, any worse than any other review?

 

I didn't say that the book was composted... and I thought my eyes would bleed...

[Jun]

http://www.wunderkabinett.co.uk/emporium/i...msg2975#msg2975

 

It reviews a couple of other books on the subject, one by a man trained by Thich Nhat Hahn, and the other a Daoist surgeon...

 

did you think it was, interms of other stuff on amazon, any worse than any other review?

 

I didn't say that the book was composted... and I thought my eyes would bleed...

 

MMM, interesting indeed, thanks Gramps. Oh, and I've seen far worse reviews on Amazon.

 

On the topic of this post, a local video store had "The God Who Wasn't There" on DVD for sale (a first in Oz). It was deemed innapropriate and an afront to the local Catholic church who wrote letters of complaint to the head office of the Video store chain and it was forced to remove it from sale.

[Grandpa Harley]

There's still an active encyclical that means that sort of Biblical 'Scholarship' (TGWWT was patchy at best) could mean instant ex-communication for your average left footer...

[Jun]

There's still an active encyclical that means that sort of Biblical 'Scholarship' (TGWWT was patchy at best) could mean instant ex-communication for your average left footer...

 

mmmm

[Grandpa Harley]

You need an attack Jesuit to keep you straight...

[BlueGiant]

Funny video, low blow from Myspace.

 

I'd like to mention something that Jesus told me at a fettish club one night (and yes, he was a guy dressed in a white robe with a crown of thorns):

 

"You do one cross and everyone thinks you're a sub."

[UnholyBlackDeath]

Censoring non-Christian ideas, huh? That's a new one on me. (sarcasm) It is ridiculous that these sites are giving in to these people and removing this content from a community based environment. This just defeats the point of such sites. I can understand not allowing porn and whatnot but just conflicting beliefs? This is a crazy fucked up fundy place we call home. Hopefully the newer generations will be more receptive to reason. I am hopeful of this, with all of the information that is always available to curious young ones. The fundy will lose steam and go the way of the dinosaur.