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Thank you WebMaster Dave for this new section, I believe it will be welcomed.

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Yes, indeed, thank you. I do believe it will be most appreciated.

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I think this section is a great idea, and shows a respect for the members of ExC. I look forward to reading and posting here, thanks.

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Thanks for this glorious new section, Dave! Glory! :woohoo:

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Add another thank you to the list :)

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You're all welcome.

 

You might want to thank Jubilant, though. It was actually her idea.

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You're all welcome.

 

You might want to thank Jubilant, though. It was actually her idea.

 

Thank you Jubilant! :3:

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Swank, a new section.

 

Thanks Jubilant!

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I agree that this seems like a decent solution to the recently expressed need for such.

 

Can anyone track down Sage with this information? About a week ago Sage said she/he would leave because it seems only atheists are truly respected here. In my opinion, there was too much wisdom in Sage's posts to just let Sage go, providing anyone has contact info for Sage.

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I agree that this seems like a decent solution to the recently expressed need for such.

 

Can anyone track down Sage with this information? About a week ago Sage said she/he would leave because it seems only atheists are truly respected here. In my opinion, there was too much wisdom in Sage's posts to just let Sage go, providing anyone has contact info for Sage.

 

I PM'ed her the other day, whether or not she gets it, I don't know.

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This is encouraging - even as a lazy agnostic sometimes I feel my street 'cred is lacking amongst some of the more absolutist atheists on the site.

 

Good freakin' deal. I can feel the "energy" of all the NewAgers typing away! hahahahaha :P

 

Let's keep in mind that there is no "road" after deconversion. The theists are not in some holding pattern waiting for deeper understanding or illumination of The One Real Truth of atheism. And us agnostics are not in some damned Waiting Room of the Ignorant, needing simply to be prodded into hard atheism.

 

I do not buy the idea that the only true thinkers necessarily end up atheists, even though intellectually I sympathize with this. Everyone has to grapple on their own and come to their own difficult conclusions. We all have dealt w/ group conformity in the christian church. No need to mimic it here in Apostatesville.

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Jubilant, Sage has posted! She must have gotten your message. :)

 

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Let's keep in mind that there is no "road" after deconversion. The theists are not in some holding pattern waiting for deeper understanding or illumination of The One Real Truth of atheism. And us agnostics are not in some damned Waiting Room of the Ignorant, needing simply to be prodded into hard atheism.

 

I do not buy the idea that the only true thinkers necessarily end up atheists, even though intellectually I sympathize with this. Everyone has to grapple on their own and come to their own difficult conclusions. We all have dealt w/ group conformity in the christian church. No need to mimic it here in Apostatesville.

 

That expresses my feelings exactly! Thanks for putting it into words. And if others are like me, they will find their needs shifting from one area to another depending on what life throws at them.

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I agree with Ruby and Jubilant and I thank her profusely for bringing about this section.

 

I think the idea that leaving Christianity ultimately results in one becoming atheist is similar to the situation when someone tells you you will eventually come around to having children, or getting married, or returning to the church. While I don't think we're ever told outright that we'll eventually become atheists I think it's assumed, and often the material which is available to ex-Christians assumes the same; somtimes admittedly I do wonder if perhaps so many people do become atheists after deconversion because it is presented as the only natural outcome. But then again they have their reasons just as I have mine.

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...And if others are like me, they will find their needs shifting from one area to another depending on what life throws at them.

 

This is very important to remember, Ruby, and I appreciate many of your thoughtful, sensitive posts. Separating out our current life experiences and simply our chemical make-up is impossible. Our thoughts, in some respects, are like any other physical process (physiological): they are a result of brain activity, not necessarily an ether or spirit.

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Being an atheist I am glad this is catering to theism and agonstics also because I do notice the unbalance at times. Good call on the part for catering to other people on this board. Thus it makes everyone a winner in the end because the board is more open to more ideas and people don't feel like they are being shunned and not wanted.

 

Sage is back? Welcome back also.

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Thanks for putting into words what I was feeling guys. I was put off from coming on this site for a while because of a few "evangelising" pseudo skeptics and atheist fundamentalists.

 

I don,t know about you but virtually my whole life I have felt deep down that their is alot more to life than I can see on the surface of things. Fundamentalist christianity was a definite supression of my true spiritual longings......but I feel now richer for the experience....who :grin: knows why I took myself into it??

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Thanks for putting into words what I was feeling guys. I was put off from coming on this site for a while because of a few "evangelising" pseudo skeptics and atheist fundamentalists.

 

I don,t know about you but virtually my whole life I have felt deep down that their is alot more to life than I can see on the surface of things. Fundamentalist christianity was a definite supression of my true spiritual longings......but I feel now richer for the experience....who :grin: knows why I took myself into it??

You weren't the only one put off by those folks. Fundies of any stripe can be very annoying. I agree, there is more to life than meets the eye or that can be measured and defined by our current science. My own experiences and thinking (and those of my family) have lead me strongly towards a non-religious but hopeful sort of belief in the possibility of an afterlife of some sort and a Creator - though one NOT defined by any of mankind's obviously false religions. I find the atheistic notion that we exist for no particular reason and then die and cease to exist a rather depressing one myself.

 

I don't habitually practice any sort of spirituality, but I really should. I recognize the value of it.

 

I don't see this section getting a whole lot of action, but it is a great addition to the site. Glory!

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Thanks for putting into words what I was feeling guys. I was put off from coming on this site for a while because of a few "evangelising" pseudo skeptics and atheist fundamentalists.

 

I don,t know about you but virtually my whole life I have felt deep down that their is alot more to life than I can see on the surface of things. Fundamentalist christianity was a definite supression of my true spiritual longings......but I feel now richer for the experience....who :grin: knows why I took myself into it??

 

I am an atheist evangelist, but I care more about Free Thought and science than atheism.

 

Something I have said before a few times..

 

Here is another thing that I was thinking about.....but people have insulted me for simply putting it out there as a possible good idea. That is to try to bring everybody who might be interested into Free Thought. Yea....Christians too. That way people of different beliefs are exposed to eachother, hear many kinds of arguments, even antitheist arguments. Theists would be considered Free Thinkers and will enjoy the good reactions to their thoughtful and intelligent ideas. As an antitheist I think we will see a lot more de-conversons that way. More people who are open minded and develop tolerance for atheists. More theists who pimp science. This idea even fits with my Transhumanists philosophy. Many of us see that religion is a problem and chew on many different possible solutions.

 

Of course ExChristians.net serves a special purpose and this would not apply here as far as Christians, because we all need a place that is ours.

 

Is this tolerant?

 

No one is 100% rational and I think it is a special plead that only atheists can be Free Thinkers. I am an antitheist saying that.

 

I definitely think there is a forum in many places at appropriate times for evangelizing of any kind as it is only natural for humans to want to exchange ideas and beliefs.

 

But unlike the xers, no fundie atheists wants to pass laws that would inculcate atheism. As far as I know.

 

Anyhow, I won't be in here very much and when I am I will be supportive.

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Free Thought is more than just metaphysical purse fights. It is too damn useful in many other ways.

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