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Why Do Many Cristians Have Holier Than Thou Attitude?


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As topic states I've been pretty pissed off lately with trying to discuss certain points about how Christianity does much the same as Muslim with promoting violence against those who don't believe in the same thing i.e. Bible - Koran.

 

The sort of response generally get back would be along these lines

 

"People who know little about Chritianity (like yoursef) should not comment on it.

Why Jesus? Because Jesus Christ and HIS teachings is what Christianity is about.

No use quoting the old testament. That's the Torah and Jewish history.

Not Christs teachings, he wasn't even born then.

Christ upholds the 10 Commandments and the Golden rule; do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

He also spoke against things from the old testament such as; an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth."

 

Which is obviously flawed as the new testament states that Jesus is here to fulfill the teachings of the old testament.

 

So my question remains; why do Christians believe that anything "violent" or contradictory to the contemporary moral values contained in the bible "doesn't apply" or "has been taken out of context"?

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As topic states I've been pretty pissed off lately with trying to discuss certain points about how Christianity does much the same as Muslim with promoting violence against those who don't believe in the same thing i.e. Bible - Koran.

 

The sort of response generally get back would be along these lines

 

"People who know little about Chritianity (like yoursef) should not comment on it.

Chances are I know more about it than them, so they should listen then?

 

Why Jesus? Because Jesus Christ and HIS teachings is what Christianity is about.

This is where there lack of knowledge of their own beliefs shows through. They're not Christians. They're Paulians.

 

No use quoting the old testament. That's the Torah and Jewish history.

Jesus quoted the old testament. So did Paul. So do they really follow Jesus then?

 

Not Christs teachings, he wasn't even born then.

Yes he was. He was born in a culture that followed that law. So did he. How come they don't if they're his follower?

 

Christ upholds the 10 Commandments and the Golden rule; do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

He also spoke against things from the old testament such as; an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth."

Well then, I guess that makes him able to change God's word that chages not, since he is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Guess one of those two isn't true?

 

So my question remains; why do Christians believe that anything "violent" or contradictory to the contemporary moral values contained in the bible "doesn't apply" or "has been taken out of context"?

Either they don't take it literally and see it as reflective of the views of a people of another culture and not God's binding word. Or they view it as God's perfect word that should be taken literally and they are being totally hypocritical and intellectually dishonest. The latter fits fundamentalists pretty well.

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They believe it doesn't not apply because the old laws, the Mosaic laws do not apply to Christians.

 

Except when they want them to...

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They believe it doesn't not apply because the old laws, the Mosaic laws do not apply to Christians.

 

Except when they want them to...

That seems to be the case with most of the responses.

 

I live in Australia and over here we don't seem to have much of an issue with fundamentalists as I've seen the US and those who are religious are generally reasonably open minded within a generation bracket that is; the oldies still seem to have their issues with everything slightly opposed to their religious teachings but at least their kids didn't seem to care for it too much.

 

What is the education system like over in the US in regards to religion in public/private schools; here in Australia we don't really have any religious teaching in public schools (as it should be since they are public) but even in private Christian schools religion is presented to students and teachers seem to encourage questions as that is still the primary role of teachers.

 

IMO the roman catholic church is trying to get a stronger grip over politics in Australia as can be noted from a recent bill passed allowing for "limited therapeutic cloning" (modifying stem cell research restrictions) where the church responded with,

"Cardinal George Pell, warned Catholic legislators that they could face unspecified consequences if they voted for the bill.

 

The Roman Catholic Church is strongly opposed to embryonic stem cell research, which it says involves the destruction of human life."

 

As soon as the church loses all power in government it will be happy days IMO.

 

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Wish I had my edit button - didn't realise the missing h until just after I finished creating the topic :Doh:

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Why Do Many Cristians Have Holier Than Thou Attitude?

 

My personal conclusion? They lack true conviction. See, I admire people who have personal conviction, regardless of whether they are Jew, Atheist, Wiccan, Christian, Muslim, etc. People who know their shortcomings and strive to work on those. People who lack conviction compensate for that by trying to convict other people for their behavior. It's human nature for insecure people to try and project an image of superiority when in the presence of others. After all, when you are (to borrow a fundie phrase) pointing out the speck in your brother's eyes while ignoring the plank in yours, you are conveying the image of moral superiority over another individual. When you are lambasting someone for their flaws and what you consider shortcomings, who has time to notice your issues?

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That seems to be the case with most of the responses.

 

I live in Australia and over here we don't seem to have much of an issue with fundamentalists as I've seen the US and those who are religious are generally reasonably open minded within a generation bracket that is; the oldies still seem to have their issues with everything slightly opposed to their religious teachings but at least their kids didn't seem to care for it too much.

 

What is the education system like over in the US in regards to religion in public/private schools; here in Australia we don't really have any religious teaching in public schools (as it should be since they are public) but even in private Christian schools religion is presented to students and teachers seem to encourage questions as that is still the primary role of teachers.

 

IMO the roman catholic church is trying to get a stronger grip over politics in Australia as can be noted from a recent bill passed allowing for "limited therapeutic cloning" (modifying stem cell research restrictions) where the church responded with,

"Cardinal George Pell, warned Catholic legislators that they could face unspecified consequences if they voted for the bill.

 

The Roman Catholic Church is strongly opposed to embryonic stem cell research, which it says involves the destruction of human life."

 

As soon as the church loses all power in government it will be happy days IMO.

 

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Wish I had my edit button - didn't realise the missing h until just after I finished creating the topic :Doh:

 

It depends on which state you're in and whether or not it is a public or private school. Where I grew up they did teach us religion, but not just one, a bunch of them...in global history class. Some areas of the US are pushing to teach intelligent design in schools as a science course right along side of evolution...

 

With private schools I'm assuming they have a lot of freedom to teach what they want to. My cousins went to a Catholic school...they learned of different religions, and I'm pretty sure they were taught evolution in science class.

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Christians have a holier-than-thou attitude because it's right there in the bible. The fool hath said in his heart there is no God. In other words, anyone who says there is no God is foolish or stupid. Jesus had no qualms about ridiculing the scribes and Pharisees. He called them all kinds of the most insulting names. The OT says "thou shalt have no other gods before me. I alone am god. Me alone shalt thou serve."

 

To me, that looks about as arrogant and self-righteous as it gets. Or "holier than thou."

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