Guest Aryeh Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Dear Father, I'm coming to you with a heavy heart, many of my brothers and sister's have fallen away. They have believed the lie, and now glory in delusion, feeling that the nothingness they hold is more precious than their lost soul. Lord, continue to call out their names. They need to hear your voice. Holy Spirit move in this place, "Let there be light!" For your light is life to all who possess it. I no longer will take the knowledge of your Goodness for granted. Not everyone sees as I see. How do you open the eyes of a person who refuses to see? Teach me, Lord. You are love and allow us to reason things out, you allow questions and opinions, though you saw what sin would do with this freedom. You believed in us, enough to entrust us with the Garden. But what have we done with your trust. Lord, forgive us for our lack of faith. For obeying the commands of sin, that shakes us to submit to it's will. addictions chaining souls with guilt and shame, now God they blame. Though you are King of kings and Lord of Lords, you don't force us to obey your good, perfect and pleasing will. Every will, a desire of your heart for us to come to a full knowledge of You and the One you sent. Your will is that we Live. If your thoughts were as low as ours, you would have already lost your patience and recalled our spirits with one word. Yet, you delay your return out of your abundance of mercy, so that lost sheep may be recovered. You are the Good Shepherd. You have never let me down. No matter how low in sin I've been, you were there. I'd pray for forgiveness and the guilt and shame would disappear. I've put my faith in you, that you will never leave me nor forsake me. Even if I hide from you, I know you'd come looking for me, just as you've come looking for these, who think their denial of you can change the way you feel about them. Thank you for leading me to this site. Give me love, patience and mercy so that your love may flow unhindered through me to whoever would read any of my words. In Jesus Name Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Aryeh, I appreciate your concern, but I think it is misplaced. Many of us could not return to our former beliefs even if we tried with all our might. It would be like trying to fit into our childhood clothes again. Many of us have simply outgrown Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev R Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 It might take a while for him to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhampir Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 throw this one in the Den. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphophilia Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Look, you may think you are coming here in Christian love, but you are an arrogant ass. You make assumptions you know nothing about. You do not, in anyway attempt to have a dialouge with us. In fact, I think you are coward. Taph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-COG Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Dear Father,.... But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. (KJV) Matthew 6:6 This forum isn't a closet. You can't even follow your own holy book. Guess you really don't trust what it says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 throw this one in the Den. Good idea... Done so. kFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimov Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Whatever dude, go make love to Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Dear Father, Aint'cher Daddy, but if you want me to be, I'll try.. Might eveneth be yer huckleberry... I'm coming to you with a heavy heart, many of my brothers and sister's have fallen away. I had a heavy heart once, but it was a bad bean and cheese burrito. They have believed the lie, and now glory in delusion, feeling that the nothingness they hold is more precious than their lost soul. Actually Peter and Paul, Mauser, that is, and their invention let me shoot a 295X-20. Feels pretty damn good, rifle that's not totally bedded in its stock yet. Nothing? Felt? Bubba, 150 rounds of 7.62x51 hurts after a bit.. Was a religious experience... I feel another one coming, religious experience, that is! Lord, continue to call out their names. They need to hear your voice. Holy Spirit move in this place, "Let there be light!" For your light is life to all who possess it. JM Browning calls my name every day, and oft I answer the God of Great Inventions. Even if the cracker was a Mormon this immediate past life. As for light? We kinda try to suppress the Light by using the Holy Hiram Maxim's most sleek invention, the "muffler". It doth worketh. I no longer will take the knowledge of your Goodness for granted. Not everyone sees as I see. How do you open the eyes of a person who refuses to see? Teach me, Lord. You are love and allow us to reason things out, you allow questions and opinions, though you saw what sin would do with this freedom. I doth sinneth buds.. I callethed a shot-eth and missedeth it. That unredeemed shot costeth mine purse geld. Reason forbids me to do such foolish things again unless a more sure thingith. You believed in us, enough to entrust us with the Garden. But what have we done with your trust. Lord, forgive us for our lack of faith. For obeying the commands of sin, that shakes us to submit to it's will. addictions chaining souls with guilt and shame, now God they blame. Though you are King of kings and Lord of Lords, you don't force us to obey your good, perfect and pleasing will. Every will, a desire of your heart for us to come to a full knowledge of You and the One you sent. Your will is that we Live. If your thoughts were as low as ours, you would have already lost your patience and recalled our spirits with one word. Yet, you delay your return out of your abundance of mercy, so that lost sheep may be recovered. You are the Good Shepherd. You have never let me down. No matter how low in sin I've been, you were there. Verrrrily an' forsootheth, JMB lets no Man or Woman who useth His Holy Inventions be led astray to plastics and artificial tools, madeth from unholy materials not natural, as of carbon, fire and ore. JMB's Holy Will be done with short action slide locking recoil operated devices made to convert the unholy. Blessed Be the name of John Moses Browning. I'd pray for forgiveness and the guilt and shame would disappear. I've put my faith in you, that you will never leave me nor forsake me. Even if I hide from you, I know you'd come looking for me, just as you've come looking for these, who think their denial of you can change the way you feel about them. The path to redemptioneth is 1000 meters long and farther, blessed be the Artiste who gathereth range, dope and skill to find the solutions given by the Great Man of Modern Technical Times. Let me not shame the name of the Great JMB by bad actions, "collateral damage" and ill timed instruction to the scant of belief-eth. Lead me to one ragged hole Great Moses of the Musketry! Thank you for leading me to this site. Give me love, patience and mercy so that your love may flow unhindered through me to whoever would read any of my words. In Jesus Name Amen. May mercy tenderly-eth be applied when the bad actor so desires the end to a miserable life, and JMB so guide me, Peter and Paul's Invention so help me, and to the various Saints of Science and Industry who-eth made the tools for the guidance of fools to their Wicked end-eths. May Hay-sus continue to garden my fields, and his Father continue to make good hay for the comfort of the lower animals who give-eth our daily chunks of solid fuel. Alfuckin'mond! kFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Dear Father, I'm coming to you with a heavy heart, many of my brothers and sister's have fallen away. They have believed the lie, and now glory in delusion, feeling that the nothingness they hold is more precious than their lost soul. Lord, continue to call out their names. They need to hear your voice. Holy Spirit move in this place, "Let there be light!" For your light is life to all who possess it. I no longer will take the knowledge of your Goodness for granted. Not everyone sees as I see. How do you open the eyes of a person who refuses to see? Teach me, Lord. You are love and allow us to reason things out, you allow questions and opinions, though you saw what sin would do with this freedom. You believed in us, enough to entrust us with the Garden. But what have we done with your trust. Lord, forgive us for our lack of faith. For obeying the commands of sin, that shakes us to submit to it's will. addictions chaining souls with guilt and shame, now God they blame. Though you are King of kings and Lord of Lords, you don't force us to obey your good, perfect and pleasing will. Every will, a desire of your heart for us to come to a full knowledge of You and the One you sent. Your will is that we Live. If your thoughts were as low as ours, you would have already lost your patience and recalled our spirits with one word. Yet, you delay your return out of your abundance of mercy, so that lost sheep may be recovered. You are the Good Shepherd. You have never let me down. No matter how low in sin I've been, you were there. I'd pray for forgiveness and the guilt and shame would disappear. I've put my faith in you, that you will never leave me nor forsake me. Even if I hide from you, I know you'd come looking for me, just as you've come looking for these, who think their denial of you can change the way you feel about them. Thank you for leading me to this site. Give me love, patience and mercy so that your love may flow unhindered through me to whoever would read any of my words. In Jesus Name Amen. G'wan outa that ya church crawlin' mongrel! Casey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aryeh Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Look, you may think you are coming here in Christian love, but you are an arrogant ass. You make assumptions you know nothing about. You do not, in anyway attempt to have a dialouge with us. In fact, I think you are coward. Taph I didn't come to fight. I came looking for someone. A person who use to pray. Who no longer has a dialogue with God. Just as left out, and unappreciated you feel by my approach...so God feels. He's waiting for your reply, to his posting of your life this morning. How many more years do we have to play grown-up? Believing independence is a good thing. I depend on Him for everything...at least I've begun to, consciously from the start of this year. I'm His baby. I wasn't always living by faith. But God showed me how. Step by step. I gave one worry after worry to Him. Through it all, He came through for me. That is why I have to praise Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccles Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Oh, Blimey, WHo let this ARYEH out? Never did I think I would see such crap since I quit the last "Christian" Group I was on. There was a member there using the Nic: "DidyoutalkwithJesustoday". Her posts were painful, very painful but not as bad as this OP. Arhey, what possessed you to join a forum like this. Did you misunderstand the name "EX-Christians". We here do not believe in any 'god', the bible, Jesus as the "son of god". For myself I am a bedraggled refugee from the "Holy" Roman Catholic Church. Although I respect your freedom of speech, you have chosen the wrong forum. We do not like preaching. That is why we join fora like this one: to escape from Christian Bullshit. For your information, the Bible is only a bad plagiarism of Egyptian and Babylonian Myths. There was no "god/creator", no Exodus, no "Great Flood". Jesus the Nazarene was born out of wedlock. His mother, Mary was not a virgin. That is a mis-translation of the Hebrew word "Almah" meaning "Young Woman". Jesus never claimed to be "god" or the "son of god". The bible quotes him as claiming to be the "son of man" and not many bible experts can work out what that means. Remember though: from where did the unknown authors of the Canonic books of the NT get that quote? They certainly did not hear Jesus say that. They were not there. And you should know about badly misquoting people 40 years after the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demona- Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I gave one worry after worry to Him. Through it all, He came through for me. That is why I have to praise Him. Lovely. Why don't you go praise him elsewhere. Isn't it obvious to you that preachy types aren't wanted here? Of course not. Because you think you know what's good for us better than we do ourselves. I'm not impressed, Aryeh, and you won't be successful attempting to reconvert anyone here. You're preaching to former members of the choir, who left because the music selection sucked. And that post wasn't God's post, but your very public attempt to look good in His eyes. Your own Bible says you are to be condemned for praying publically. Incidentally, the verse just before the one Ex-COG quoted states the following: And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. Sounds an awful lot like you. If you want to win brownie points with your man JC, go pray quietly in a closet from now on, just as Ex-COG said. The Big Sky-Daddy's probably more than a little ticked off at you right now for performing your incantations in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphophilia Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I didn't come to fight. I came looking for someone. A person who use to pray. Who no longer has a dialogue with God. Just as left out, and unappreciated you feel by my approach...so God feels. He's waiting for your reply, to his posting of your life this morning. How many more years do we have to play grown-up? Believing independence is a good thing. I depend on Him for everything...at least I've begun to, consciously from the start of this year. I'm His baby. I wasn't always living by faith. But God showed me how. Step by step. I gave one worry after worry to Him. Through it all, He came through for me. That is why I have to praise Him. Did I say fight? No, I said dialogue as in conversation. I did not feel left out or unappreciated. You should stop reading things that are not said or implied. Yes, you are being arrogant. You make assumptions about us that are not true and you do not seek to understand us because you think you know it all. This may come as a shock to you but not all of us wallow in low self esteem. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of us have gained our self-esteem by leaving a religion that was oppressive to us. To use Grandpa Harley's analogy, you are a drug peddler to a group of recovering addicts. Taph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trancelation Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Aryeh: No one's buying it. You're a fake. Go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsGuy Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I didn't come to fight. I came looking for someone. A person who use to pray. Who no longer has a dialogue with God. Oh gees...you think you're some sort of a prophet or something? God gave you some sort of "word of knowledge" and you're here sounding God's trumpet? Go ahead. Shake the dust off your shoes as a testimony against us and go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic techno-gypsy Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 While you're waiting for god to answer your prayers, learn how to properly use paragraph breaks. And in the immortal words of Mr. Udall (from "As Good as it Gets") "Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japedo Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I didn't come to fight. I came looking for someone. A person who use to pray. Who no longer has a dialogue with God. Just as left out, and unappreciated you feel by my approach...so God feels. He's waiting for your reply, to his posting of your life this morning. How many more years do we have to play grown-up? Believing independence is a good thing. I depend on Him for everything...at least I've begun to, consciously from the start of this year. I'm His baby. I wasn't always living by faith. But God showed me how. Step by step. I gave one worry after worry to Him. Through it all, He came through for me. That is why I have to praise Him. You have the mind of a child. You're petrified of growing up and facing life. I pity you. You talk to yourself and thru your delusion believe you're talking to some spirit some place who gives you breaks and benefits. It takes a real 'leader' and 'witness' to depend on imaginary friend to get you thru life. 50/50 chance of things turning out for good or bad, depending on luck or gawds will. Sounds about the same odds as the rest of us godless rejects get in life. The thought of independence and free thinking cripples you to such degrees that you believe one needs to pretend to be grownup. How do you propose this comes across as your or your god are strong? It is a riddle and it's beyond me. You believe free thinkers and non cult members are playing grown up? LOL Hey.. dippy.. We aren't the one's who's imaginary friend tells us what to do.... You're the only one "Playing" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aryeh Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I've found him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Really? How long had he been lost then? Casey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japedo Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I've found him. Yeah, and Geraldo found Al Capone's Vault... You know the difference between you and Geraldo? There was actually some sort of proof that the vault existed. Prove you've found anything outside of the voices inside your own head..... I won't hold my breath as your god is about as real as Frosty even with his magic hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccles Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I've found him. [You found WHO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demona- Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I've found him. Ah yes, now you're trying to sound cryptic. Please. You probably couldn't pray your way out of a paper bag with a hole in the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofGondor Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Pray, tell me: why is it that the god whom you esteem to be the alpha and omega, the intimate creator whose ubiquitous existence and unparalleled power pervades nature even to the furthest reaches of the cosmos, would entrust the responsibility of spreading his message of love and atonement to anyone but himself, considering the consequences involved in the acceptance or refusal of this message? If such a being as your god exists, let him bear witness on his own behalf. Your words are empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 This is your brain on morontheism. Just another jebus cultist regurgiposting all the crap her Führers brainwashed her into swallowing hook, like and sinker. The only "reply" from willfully-braindead morons like this one will be reply to pre-programmed keywords without any comprehension of the original posting... indeed, without even any attempt at comprehension. Thank you "Aryeh", you provide yet more evidence to us for why we were right in taking a crap on your skriptcha, your gawd and your entire cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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