The Qualities Of The Anti-christ

[מה טבו]

We've all heard and read the endless speculation about the Anti-Christ. Supposedly it's everyone from Bill Gates to George Bush to some anonymous Jewish guy. The big things today are that the AC is supposed to be power-hungry, kind of a socialist, and eeeeeeeeebillll.

 

But if we define Anti-Christ as being the polar opposite of Christ, what do we get? Since it's impossible to really know about the historical person of Josh of Nazareth, or even if he really ever existed, we have to look at the modern idea of Christ. What qualities would be embodied - and what doctrines would be taught - by the complete opposite of Christ?

 

I'll have to start with personal responsibility. The AC would emphasize that we are each responsible for our own actions, with no devil or original sin making us do it. The AC would absolutely reject the notion of instant forgiveness, and say that each individual must deal with the consequences of his/her own actions, and make amends honestly and through effort.

 

The AC would embrace authentic humanity, reject the notions that people are basically evil and human nature needs to be stifled, and encourage people to live honestly as who they really are.

 

Any other ideas?

[qadeshet]

We've all heard and read the endless speculation about the Anti-Christ. Supposedly it's everyone from Bill Gates to George Bush to some anonymous Jewish guy. The big things today are that the AC is supposed to be power-hungry, kind of a socialist, and eeeeeeeeebillll.

 

But if we define Anti-Christ as being the polar opposite of Christ, what do we get? Since it's impossible to really know about the historical person of Josh of Nazareth, or even if he really ever existed, we have to look at the modern idea of Christ. What qualities would be embodied - and what doctrines would be taught - by the complete opposite of Christ?

 

I'll have to start with personal responsibility. The AC would emphasize that we are each responsible for our own actions, with no devil or original sin making us do it. The AC would absolutely reject the notion of instant forgiveness, and say that each individual must deal with the consequences of his/her own actions, and make amends honestly and through effort.

 

The AC would embrace authentic humanity, reject the notions that people are basically evil and human nature needs to be stifled, and encourage people to live honestly as who they really are.

 

Any other ideas?

 

He would look a lot like George W Bush.

[Deva]

All I can really remember about the doctrine of the anti-christ is:

 

1. That he would unite the world under his leadership

2. He would be a charismatic leader

3. He would do miracles like christ did, such as raise the dead and he himself would rise from the dead.

4. Everyone would accept what he said and at first he would be a man of peace (guess that is why he could do #1 on the list).

 

Not saying I believe any of it, you understand, but that is just what I was taught.

[Luke Wolf]

Allthough I am unknown in most circles, I proudly claim the title of Anti-Christ.

 

I will establish peace by first getting rid of Christianity and Islam, and since most people believe Islam caused 9/11, getting rid of them will be easy. I will then stage an attack by a Christian group, indoctrinate people will history lessons of all the unspeakable evils that has been caused in the name of Jesus. After they are gone, I will work on taking over America and England simultaneously. The rest of Europe and North America will come with it. I will then bombard the Middle East into submission, and send out an offering of a peaceful surrender to the rest of the world. Those who do not oblige will be obliterated, but the media will portray an image of them becoming violent, and the man who wants to bring the world under a banner of peace was left with no choice but the destroy them.

 

As far as the raising the dead goes, I'll get ahold of Criss Angel and ask him for advice, and pay him enough so he will keep quite about it, along with offering him a position of influence to persuade him to remain quite. Days later, I will be seen visiting a hospital filled with people who are supposedly dead. I will then do some random ritual, and they will awaken.

 

The world religion will be English, as it is already a very widely spoken language. The currency will be a new one that I will make up. The religion will be a new one based on free thought, philosophy, and the here and now rather than an eternity to come.

 

New laws will be passed, and the world will, to most, seem a very peaceful place were everyone gets along.

[Deva]

Allthough I am unknown in most circles, I proudly claim the title of Anti-Christ......

New laws will be passed, and the world will, to most, seem a very peaceful place were everyone gets along.

 

Thanks Luke, for filling in those details. I always wondered how you were going to accomplish the above plan. I left out one important thing---

 

When do you plan to impose your "666" mark, and put it on everyone's forehead, otherwise they can't buy or sell?

[R. S. Martin]

When do you plan to impose your "666" mark, and put it on everyone's forehead, otherwise they can't buy or sell?

 

Luke Wolf said:

 

The currency will be a new one that I will make up.

 

Might he work it in there somehow?

 

Or maybe into the religion he's going to make up. Maybe that religion won't need the mark of the beast.

 

I think we are somewhat off-topic of what the OP actually was getting at. Correct me if I'm wrong but here's the message I get from the OP:

 

Christianity teaches that the Bible teaches the total depravity of humanity. Thus, to teach humanist values such as the human being is inherently good (as opposed to totally depraved) IS anti-Christ.

 

Another teaching of Christianity is to give one-tenth of one's income to the church. Keeping all one's income for self or one's favourite charity would then be antichrist. Christianity also teaches to be humble and denigrate oneself. Taking pride in being who I was born to be would be very much antichrist. So what all of this seems to boil down to is that all of us ARE the antichrist.

 

And according to some portions of the Bible, the antichrist does not have to be a world ruler. For example, I think it is in the epistles of John where it says many anti-christs have already gone out into the world. That seems not to mean in the future, but something that already happened way back then.

 

Here are the verses:

 

1 John 2:18-19 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. ¹⁹ They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

 

 

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

 

 

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

 

2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Really, it can't get any clearer. All of us here who have rejected that Jesus is Lord and saviour, the Son of God come into the flesh to save us from our sins, is an antichrist. And that kind of antichrist was already in the world at the time John was writing. Never at any point in human history did the entire human race believe that Jesus Son of God came into the flesh to save sinners.

[מה טבו]

I think we are somewhat off-topic of what the OP actually was getting at. Correct me if I'm wrong but here's the message I get from the OP:

 

Christianity teaches that the Bible teaches the total depravity of humanity. Thus, to teach humanist values such as the human being is inherently good (as opposed to totally depraved) IS anti-Christ.

 

You're right on. :-)

 

Christianity posits itself as the one true source of morality and ethics. "Christ" is portrayed as perfect. So if we were to look at the exact opposite of "Christ," what morality would we find? Would a true Anti-Christ really be such a bad guy?

[Mike D]

Cheesuz said to hate your family if you want to be one of his disciples. Therefore, to love your family is to align yourself with the anti-Christ!

[Sparrow]

We've all heard and read the endless speculation about the Anti-Christ. Supposedly it's everyone from Bill Gates to George Bush to some anonymous Jewish guy. The big things today are that the AC is supposed to be power-hungry, kind of a socialist, and eeeeeeeeebillll.

 

But if we define Anti-Christ as being the polar opposite of Christ, what do we get? Since it's impossible to really know about the historical person of Josh of Nazareth, or even if he really ever existed, we have to look at the modern idea of Christ. What qualities would be embodied - and what doctrines would be taught - by the complete opposite of Christ?

 

I'll have to start with personal responsibility. The AC would emphasize that we are each responsible for our own actions, with no devil or original sin making us do it. The AC would absolutely reject the notion of instant forgiveness, and say that each individual must deal with the consequences of his/her own actions, and make amends honestly and through effort.

 

The AC would embrace authentic humanity, reject the notions that people are basically evil and human nature needs to be stifled, and encourage people to live honestly as who they really are.

 

Any other ideas?

 

Qualities of the anti-christ?

 

First off I would say the primary quality is non-existant.

 

There has been so many anti-whatever items in all of theologies since time began - snce the history of the whole history- "Anti-christ" is a hyper-superlative that has been readily accepted into the doctrine, belief, scripture and dogma of christianity because there was already a history of it - prior to christianity.

 

Sure there are bad people, BUT is there anyone who not only hates humanity so much, WITH the power to do something about it? No. Sure someone can do some damage for a period of time, but there is no individual with the ultimate power.

 

Spatz

[Mike D]

We've all heard and read the endless speculation about the Anti-Christ. Supposedly it's everyone from Bill Gates to George Bush to some anonymous Jewish guy. The big things today are that the AC is supposed to be power-hungry, kind of a socialist, and eeeeeeeeebillll.

 

I forgot to mention, in the 80's the anti-Christ was without a doubt Ronald Reagan. But if it wasn't him, it was most definitely Madonna!

 

In the 90's it was for sure, Mikhail Gorbechov. But if that proved wrong, it was a complete 100% certainty that the anti-Christ was George Bush Sr!

 

Christians are such morons sometimes

[מה טבו]

I don't think that I'm being clear enough.

 

What I'm referring to here is not the nightmarish figure in Christian mythology, but an ordinary human being. I posit that anyone could choose to be an "Anti-Christ," and in doing so, live a really good life.

 

Think about it. If Christianity was really the only source of morality, then we would expect the opposite of "Christ" to be completely amoral. But if we start to look at what is described as "Christ" and "Christlike," we see that the moral code of Christianity is pretty screwed up. And if we were to imagine the polar opposite of Christian morality, we actually see a very strong, well-reasoned, humanist ethic emerging. Things like personal responsibility and personal freedom, the view of human nature as basically good, the acceptance of diversity in human sexuality, the right of individuals to cognitive autonomy - all of these ideas directly contradict Christian teaching.

 

Let me try to phrase the question differently. Try to get the mental image of the Christian monster out of your head when answering. What I'm going for is a philosophical and ethical response - no pre-programmed Christian rhetoric - none of what you were taught as a child - just an honest assessment of the ethics and worldview at the polar opposite of Christianity. Here's the question again, phrased differently:

 

If you woke up tomorrow morning, and decided to live life as the exact opposite of everything embodied by the mythical figure of "Christ" (a.k.a. an "Anti-Christ"), what life would you lead? What would be your moral code? If you taught others based on your Anti-Christian principles, what would you teach them?

[Dhampir]

I thought the Antichrist was supposed to be Ayatollah Khomeini

[Yaoi Huntress Earth]

I think we are somewhat off-topic of what the OP actually was getting at. Correct me if I'm wrong but here's the message I get from the OP:

 

Christianity teaches that the Bible teaches the total depravity of humanity. Thus, to teach humanist values such as the human being is inherently good (as opposed to totally depraved) IS anti-Christ.

 

You're right on. :-)

 

Christianity posits itself as the one true source of morality and ethics. "Christ" is portrayed as perfect. So if we were to look at the exact opposite of "Christ," what morality would we find? Would a true Anti-Christ really be such a bad guy?

 

You know, I really like your answer.

[LithaB]

Allthough I am unknown in most circles, I proudly claim the title of Anti-Christ.

 

Well, you do possess one very important quality that is the polar opposite of christ.

 

You actually exist.

 

I'm sold.

[DucorpsToo]

I thought the Antichrist was supposed to be Ayatollah Khomeini

 

Or maybe an organization.... Might be the IRS.