Age Of Aquarius - Death Of Christ?

[Exclavius]

Other than a testimony and a few irrelevent (and irreverant) blurbs here and there, i've very new here, so I hope this is posted on the right forum.

I prefer to let this thread go where it may, rather than be tightly controlled, so i came here rather than the Colleseum....

 

Okay, Here's my thoughts, and i'd love to hear what others have to say about them.

 

I think we all see the death of religion coming, I know I view even the upswing in radical fundy-chruches, which are mostly small and/or geographically isolated, and the bi-polar actions of old-established ones either regressing backward or scrambling to adapt to changing times, as simply the death-throes of what was once a concept enforced by law, social structure, and more.

 

I'm not saying in our life-times, mind you, but the end IS nigh....

 

So, that said, say.. oh, if religion dies in perhaps 143 years from now?

2150, is approxmately the true dawning of the age of Aquarius, from my understanding.

 

Jesus did say "I Shall be with you until even unto the end of the world(sic)" (Sorry if wording isn't exact)

As most of you know, this is one of the many things that were mis-interpreted from the bible.

 

the word "World" should've been translated to Aeon, or Age. (See http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ and lots of other sources i'm sure)

 

Now, i could see just that, religion finally fizzling out about then... (2150 CE)

 

So, if Jesus said he'd be with us tilll the end of the Age of Pisces, well, I honestly think he was right about that

That he (or those that made up the story) could predict that those religious tendencies would effectively "rule" the world for a time-frame as accurate as i feel the prediction is likely to be, that's pretty good.

Almost as good as Notredamus.... but.. without the self-fulfilling prophetic obscurities....

He said until the end of the age, even if he's 100 years off... that's not bad.

 

Then again, perhaps maybe "god's attention span" is like only 2150 years... A bad case of Divine-Attention Deficit Disorder.

 

Maybe I'm more optimistic than the rest of you out there, in that I see Christianity (and other religions) coming to an end, being unsupportable in this modern age of information. But the fact remains, i do believe it's in it's death throes, and that people like us in years to come will be hailed as pioneers, just as we hail the first free-thinkers today.

 

Yet despite all this, and my ferverent belief in the non-existance, this one incident does give me reason to question.

(Don't get me wrong, i'll never stop questioning)

But could Jesus, if he existed, had some knowledge that we don't have access to?

Could there be a guiding presence?

 

Even if Jesus is no longer with me in the way x-ian means it, he still is with me, in other ways, he effects my life, (walk down your main street, you'll be bombarded by the x-mas propeganda of Jesus and Comercialism)

100 years from now, whether man-kind survives or not... that kind of thing will not be acceptable.

 

So, you tell me, Did Jesus predict the longevity of his reign here on earth in that simple statement?

 

PS... I'd love to hear from an astrophysicist or psychiatrist who'd comment on what the effect on the Parietal lobe being hit with extra-solar radiation from different angles as the earth wobbles... Maybe our "religious inductions" change as our oreientation changes in space. *grin*

Heck there's more evidence for that wacked theory than for that of the existance of god.

 

Age of Gemini -- pre-civil brutality nescessitated by nature

Age of Taurus -- Utter brutality without much Civility

Age of Aries -- Civil Brutality without attempt to disguise it

Age of Pisces -- Same civil brutality under the mask of world-wide organized religions.

Age of Aquarius -- Who knows? Peace? Freedom? Complete Civility?

 

Amazing how social evolution really does co-incide with those "Ages" of the Zodiac.

[HuaiDan]

Then you won't have balance until the age of Libra, I'm afraid.

[Grandpa Harley]

Since Christianity is a Greek Mystery religion, and the Greeks were well aware of Precessional movement across the Zodiac, the concept is reasonably valid as far as it goes... As far as it goes otherwise... there is a repeating theme among related (Greek, Roman, Vedic,Egyptian, European Megalithic) and unrelated (Mayan/ Mesoamerican) cultures of 'great ages'. The Hindu/Vedic great year (after Yukteswar) is a set of 4 ages called Yurgas, each being ~6000 years.

 

~24000 years is one precessional loop and, approximately 1 rotation of our solar system within its galactic spiral arm (in the 'vertical' plain).

 

One of the reasons I use the Yukteswar measure of the Yurga rather than the 'popular' one is that he not only matched precessional times, but he predicted pther galaxies, our location in the galaxy and our movement therein in 1888, over 40 years before we even knew other galaxies existed (the Milky Way being regarded as 'The Universe' with the solar system at the centre by either design or chance)... All this was done from using ancient ephemera and star charts... The Hindus having preserved one of the oldest continuous records of such things...

 

However, how this affects us is a moot point. I know what Yukteswar said, I know what New Agers are saying, and I know what End time Xtians say... I'm pretty certain that, using the relative position of stars as a social barometer is unlikely... but then most social barometers are a combo of Voodoo and personal preference...

[SWIM]

I am not seeing the end of "The Dark Age Of Religion" ending anytime soon. The countries that control most of the oil are still deeply imbedded in it. The US is up to it's neck in it too. Sometimes, when you "leave" something, you notice things that you didn't pay attention to before.

 

An example is as an xtian, you may not have really "noticed" atheists before, but leaving religion, suddenly you see them everywhere. This is familiarity by association, it does not mean there is an increase, just an increase in your awareness of it.

 

I think, if the world don't bring on it's own armaggeddon (by so many believing it will happen making it so), that we will see a gradual "waking up" of the world. IQs need to increase as a whole first, and parents need to STOP drilling their religion into their young at early ages. This method of brainwashing our young, for the sole purpose of making it so they will "agree" with us later, is barbaric and tragic.

[PandaPirate]

I've often thought the same thing...that the influence of Christianity would come to an end in a couple hundred years when the age of Aquarius comes around.

[Amanda]

Welcome to these forums Exclavius! Great thread, and I look forward to reading more of your posts.

 

I'm not sure "religion" is dying, but perhaps it continues evolving... slowly. I see a lot more eastern philosophies in the US than I use to do so, however that might be as Michael suggests... I am seeing more "familiar" people now. It seems, historically, mythology progresses... incorporating other customs as it constantly transforms.

[mwc]

So, if Jesus said he'd be with us tilll the end of the Age of Pisces, well, I honestly think he was right about that

That he (or those that made up the story) could predict that those religious tendencies would effectively "rule" the world for a time-frame as accurate as i feel the prediction is likely to be, that's pretty good.

Almost as good as Notredamus.... but.. without the self-fulfilling prophetic obscurities....

He said until the end of the age, even if he's 100 years off... that's not bad.

Considering Nostradamus is only as accurate as the people reading his work I'd say jesus has a very good chance of being on par with him.

 

Maybe I'm more optimistic than the rest of you out there, in that I see Christianity (and other religions) coming to an end, being unsupportable in this modern age of information. But the fact remains, i do believe it's in it's death throes, and that people like us in years to come will be hailed as pioneers, just as we hail the first free-thinkers today.

All religions come to an end...it's just a matter of time. Even if they "resurrect" somehow they're not the same as they were before. Pick a religion and revive it, like the cult of Isis, it won't be the same as it was 3000 years ago. Xianity will die but not because we're so great but simply because it has to. Something else, be it "free thought" or another religion, will take its place.

 

But could Jesus, if he existed, had some knowledge that we don't have access to?

IF he existed? Then of course he had access to all sorts of knowledge we don't have access to. Nothing related to the "secrets of the universe" or anything though (and that's a big giant "if" too). Like many Jews he was probably trying to still work out how to get lunar and solar events aligned so his festivals didn't keep moving around on him. He probably wouldn't be much help with your theory.

 

Could there be a guiding presence?

I can't answer that but all signs point to "no."

 

So, you tell me, Did Jesus predict the longevity of his reign here on earth in that simple statement?

No. That's how they spoke.

 

Age of Gemini -- pre-civil brutality nescessitated by nature

Age of Taurus -- Utter brutality without much Civility

Age of Aries -- Civil Brutality without attempt to disguise it

Age of Pisces -- Same civil brutality under the mask of world-wide organized religions.

Age of Aquarius -- Who knows? Peace? Freedom? Complete Civility?

This is a rather simplistic view of things. But if you like to think that position of the stars in the sky is what's running the show then I guess you have a lot of company. As for me I'm just going to continue waiving my magic gerbil about as it seems to be the one truly in charge of human destiny.

 

mwc

[Exclavius]

Sorry to anyone who thought I was implying that I believed that theory... I don't... but...

It is just one of the few things left in my mind that still nag at me.

 

The way things have fit with these "ages" and that all long lasting religions have for the most part been loosly if not tightly based on this cycle.

And oddly enough, it makes some xians believe MORE, and most athiests disbelieve more.

 

Heh... maybe i've watched too many "conspiracy theory films"

 

But.. perhaps because the stars were the only "time-keeper" of any real sorts before the inventions of more recent centuries.

I guess it would be natural to incorporate all that into one's universal philosophy.

And... I have read enough articles on why any religion "manufactured" given a specific state of scientific knowledge, will in fact have many things in common with all others created with that same given state of knowledge.

 

BUT... I do, despite other's disagreement, believe that at least xianity will end within 200 years... likely sooner.

How it ends, i'll not venture a guess... whether it just die, or be transformed in such a way as to be unrecognizable, or just that it's members accept that the "facts" are instead "symbols"

I think islam will take a bit longer to die, unless the xians wipe it out before they themselves die off.

 

Anyways, thanks to all who've taken the time to respond.