DaveL Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Ok Guys, In a bid to get to know you all better, how would you describe your current philosophical position. Here is some stimulus material from Wikipedia: Weak agnosticism, or empirical agnosticism (also negative agnosticism), is the belief that the existence or nonexistence of deities is currently unknown, but is not necessarily unknowable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_agnosticism Strong agnosticism or positive agnosticism is the belief that it is impossible for humans to know whether or not any God or gods exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_agnosticism Weak atheism or negative atheism is the lack of belief in any God or gods, without a positive denial of the existence of any god or gods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_atheism Strong atheism or positive atheism is the philosophical position that God or gods do not exist. It is contrasted with weak atheism, which is the lack or absence of belief in God or gods, without the claim that God or gods do not exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_atheism Historical and modern Deism are defined by the view that reason, rather than revelation or tradition, should be the basis of belief in God. Deists reject organized religion and promote reason as the essential element in making moral decisions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
DaveL Posted July 4, 2005 Author Posted July 4, 2005 Weak Atheist for me - although I like the term 'Negative' better. No Weak...damn it, it all sounds so wussy. Why do the Strong Atheists get the good names?
Purple Rhino Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 1/2 the time I would consider myself Strong Agnostic, the other half would be Weak Atheist. Although my faith could be rented or even leased for enough $$$ by a deity or pantheon PR
Lunar Shadow Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 I would say I fall under strong atheist myself looking there at your descriptions
Thurisaz Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Weak agnostic for me, inasmuch as I fully realize that the deities I honor might not be real. Who knows?
Ouroboros Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Weak Agnostic as philosophical view But I currently hold the belief that most likely there is no God.
☆ TexasFreethinker ☆ Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 I chose "strong atheist" based on the definitions given. However, I do not claim that it is impossible that god(s) exist, just that I have seen no evidence to convince me otherwise. So, for now, I take the position that no gods exist. I guess I'm somewhere between strong and weak atheism.
♦ nivek ♦ Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 "Pannist" "Whatever pans out, happened" Figured a long time ago the cosmic turn of events didn't care a shit what I thought or did. I do the best I can with what I have... "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" Works for daFatman. kL
SilentLoner Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 It took me awhile, but I voted "strong atheist." I am pretty firm in my disbelief of the whole "god" concept. I do hold on to my pagan views, but since they dont involve any dieites I dont think it weighs in.
NimbusBirdMgp Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Well, I guess lump me in with the Deist/Weak Agnostic............ Maybe I'm clinging but my belief in a Creator(s) requires no book, no rules, no sacrifices. Just a belief that nature, TO ME, stands alone as evidence of a higher power. Evolution does not sway me in one way or the other because belief in evolution doesn't always = disbelief in higher intelligence. However, because I truly don't know, I claim Weak Agnostic also. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm the same view ... 'Deist/Weak Agnostic' I believe what Science finds as facts. It just seems to me that there is still something in the Universe that is dealing with this, in ways other than what Religions have been made up to believe. I still can't fathom all matter in the Universe exist in such dead cognition, when we only get a flash of all this in a cognitive way. And how life is formed to exist in different settings and having those adaptions for them. I still see what looks like intelligent design with this life. Not the Christian interpretation of it. But still I see what looks like intelligent design with our lives. And I'm not sure such a Deity is all loving. Cause I do see Evil working in ways with this life as well, I can't explain. Like Good and Evil is a Game for this Deity (? Playing around with us (?) ... I don't accept scapegoating like it's the Devil. Otherwise, I think such a God needs to make everyone see it exist daily with evidence. If that is the real scenareo.)
dogmatically_challenged Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 I am a weak or negative atheist. Some label weak atheism as agnostic atheist.
NimbusBirdMgp Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 I believe that we do have free will and that no one causes us to be good or evil, it's just a way that we choose to go in life. We can choose good or bad. As far as nature, what we see as natural destruction is helpful to the earth in one way or another, so I do not see evil in storms and such. That's just my humble opinion though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is Evil. I was typing something and lost it. I was saying why is it that I don't have the language skills to find the gals I wanted in my life, which are my choices I don't have working for me? On Holidays like this, I get tooth infections and I'm in pain now. There is so much working against me, it just amazes me, even scripting this. I hit something and lost what I was going to say. So I'm starting over rather upset to what I was going to say and lost it. I do not see me have the real optimal choices for what I want. Other ones is like this bad or that bad. Hard for getting good choices. I usually see something can prevent bad things at times, but nothing is profided for me. Female Famine!!!
Guest marktaylor Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 strong atheist- hope mom and dad enjoyed themselves!
Sokudo Ningyou Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 Strong athiest in a land of weak Christian minds.
doomguarder Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 Strong atheist. At this time I see no evidence for the existence of ANY gods, and therefore give them no credence.
bluewizard Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 Strong Atheist, my apostacy started back in February, I was a strong agnostic, then a weak atheist, and now I am a strong atheist, it happened over time.
pandora Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 Philosophically, strong agnostic. Practically, weak athiest.
Dio Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 Not sure. Pannist probably, or maybe I could call myself a Nivekist - if there were a God, Nivek would know about him.
pandora Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 I forgot to add that in my weaker moments, I do tend to feel that there is some higher consciousness that seems to be manifest in every living thing, but we can never know if that is the case. Call it the Ground of Being or whatever, but a lot of times I "feel" it is true. I just know that I can't know and that my mind could be playing tricks on me. I like nivekism as well. Great philosophy of life.
DeathWorship Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 strong atheist don't believe in god don't want to believe in god
Ouroboros Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 I forgot to add that in my weaker moments, I do tend to feel that there is some higher consciousness that seems to be manifest in every living thing, but we can never know if that is the case. Call it the Ground of Being or whatever, but a lot of times I "feel" it is true. I just know that I can't know and that my mind could be playing tricks on me. I like nivekism as well. Great philosophy of life. I think of it as Life Force or The Will to Live, and nothing more than that.
white_raven23 Posted July 6, 2005 Posted July 6, 2005 Deist. Religion is for people afraid to think and live for themselves. Too scared to take full responsibility for the course of one's life. I feel secure there is "something" one could call god. It feels right. But until it speaks to me (and I know it truly IS and isn't the result of trauma or hallucination), I don't dare to make any assumptions about the level of direct involvement such an intelligence would have with us. Cannot make any absolute assumptions about such a thing.
Curtdude Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 I think I voted wrong. Typical blond I voted "Stong Agnostic" but I'm really a Weak Agnostic, since the "impossibility" of the knowledge of a deity seems too dogmatic a position to take (for me). From my current point of view, it's the void of knowledge that is the defining element. I call it Lazy Agnosticism. As my partner's French mother says, "the good Lord seems to be on vacation for a very long time."
Guest AscendoTuumDeus Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Weak atheist. I will not assert the fact that a diety is impossible to exist.
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