Outback Jack Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 http://www.edmondsun.com/opinion/local_story_067125346.html The bill requires public schools to guarantee students the right to express their religious viewpoints in a public forum, in class, in homework and in other ways without being penalized. If a student’s religious beliefs were in conflict with scientific theory, and the student chose to express those beliefs rather than explain the theory in response to an exam question, the student’s incorrect response would be deemed satisfactory, according to this bill. The school would be required to reward the student with a good grade, or be considered in violation of the law. Even simple, factual information such as the age of the earth (4.65 billion years) would be subject to the student’s belief, and if the student answered 6,000 years based on his or her religious belief, the school would have to credit it as correct. Science education becomes absurd under such a situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marty Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I wish I was still in school. Upon the passing of this bill, I would then claim all math is against my personal beliefs, and therefore I would not be required to provide correct answers on my tests. This country is going down the friggin' tubes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I think it is beyond shameful that this bill was even drafted. If this thing makes it into law I will have to rethink my nice guy approach. Marty I'm with you. I think this is a terrible omen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deva Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Outrageous. "God did it 6,000 years ago"--passing grade. The new dark ages are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The thing about private schools only Burned is that I suspect it will lead to an even greater gulf between the haves and the have nots. I suspect it will lead to an entrenched aristocracy and a perpetual underclass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The thing about private schools only Burned is that I suspect it will lead to an even greater gulf between the haves and the have nots. I suspect it will lead to an entrenched aristocracy and a perpetual underclass. Actually, I think what you would see is the cost of education dropping perhaps as much as 50% to 75%. As it stands now, like anything you subsidize, it causes the price to rise due to artificial increases in demand and cost of regulation. I am not looking through rose colored glasses, I know total private education is not perfect, but for those have nots, the costs of helping those folks out would be substantially less than all the free luch and requirements of every real and perceived disadvantage of various groups who must be accomodated by the public schools now. I think I understand your point Burned. My only question would be, what will be the agency of that help? Why would the haves stoop to educate the have nots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Another acceptable answer: - "How old is the Universe?" - "Unknown. Depends on which Creator you believe in, or if you don't believe in one." And: - "By what system did we get the large diversity of animals and plant life?" - "Unknown. Depends on which Creator you believe in, or if you don't believe in one." And then we have: - "Explain how stars form." - "Unknown. Depends on which Creator you believe in, or if you don't believe in one." ... That's pretty easy test. Just answer the All-known-all-correct-default-answer and you get an A+. Who needs knowledge about science?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Is this for high school only, or does it also include college and university students? What if a student is asked to discuss something about dinosaurs or evolution and a student writes "disnosaurs never existed - dinosaur bones were planted by Satan to trick secular scientists and liberals into believing lies". They'll get a top score for that answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Mike, I wish I could laugh at this. But I can't. Burned, corporations have little incentive to educate beyond what is required to do a job in my estimation. They will produce cogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Mike, I wish I could laugh at this. But I can't. Burned, corporations have little incentive to educate beyond what is required to do a job in my estimation. They will produce cogs. Isn't that what public schools mostly produce now? Damn. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Mike, I wish I could laugh at this. But I can't. I guess I laugh because it's so ridiculous..... it's beyond absurd. At the end of the day who is this really hurting? It seems to me it's hurting the fundies (and their kids) who believe this crap. When they get out in the real world they'll be too dumbed down to get a job of any substance, so let them get weeded out of the system. Evolve, I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereticzero Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The school should also be required to teach astronomy by the theories of Star Trek and not some silly idea called 'evidence'. I also insist on the school providing a Klingon interpreter for my son so he can learn his lessons in his native language and not have to learn a Terran language. Then, the school needs to address the Pon-Far rituals for sex education, then we will be up to date on teaching the true universe to our children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereticzero Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 It's too bad cultists use children as hostages in a public school system. I am required by law to send my kid to the local school and pay school taxes. If the school district wants to teach religious instruction then they need to quit charging for taxes because I am not paying a religious tithing to the local school district. Public school is no place for religious instruction, they can teach their kids in their churches and at home but they are not sending religious teaching by force to my child without fighting me to do it. I'd write and call the school everyday making complaints and driving everyone there insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShackledNoMore Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Is the really true!!!????? By this logic, ANY student could make straight A's simply by claiming that EVERY wrong answer, on EVERY test, in EVERY subject is a religious belief. My god sed 2 me this is how u spel and rite hes gr8! My god sed 2 + 2 = 5. My god sed teh valu of pie is 3. Remind me to never even THINK about moving to Oklahoma until after my kids have graduated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Indeed.....NATURAL SELECTION!!!!......... Exactly.... with a little social Dariwnism thrown in for good measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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