Justin Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Can anyone provide me with anything showing links between christianity and crime and just in general being the ills of society? I have searched but came up mostly empty handed. I did find some but did much care for them due to being unsourced or to short and sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I don't think there's any study that can exactly prove there is a causation between those two. There might be some correlation, but probably depending on exactly what kind (denomination/church). A liberal church (of any religion) might not be as psychological damaging as a Heaven's Gate group. Most evidence is circumstantial, like America being in the top 5 Christian country in the world, and in the top 10 in crime rate, and #1 in number of jailed people per capital. It's not any clear evidence, but rather there might be a very complex causality. America might be high on crimes because of it's size, mix of people, etc, and maybe that is also what is causing the high rate of religious people. So I don't think any sociological study can provide you with a definite answer for you. I do think that certain religious groups cause more people to become violent, like extreme "war" focused groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted October 7, 2008 Super Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2008 Did you find this site in your search? http://www.prisoners.com/relcrime.html I think in addition to general crime, there is significant "Christian-specific" crime. Does a week go by that we don't hear about child abuse, sex scandals and financial misconduct in the churches? Only a small percentage of those crimes are likely to be reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Most evidence is circumstantial, like America being in the top 5 Christian country in the world, and in the top 10 in crime rate, and #1 in number of jailed people per capital. It's not any clear evidence, but rather there might be a very complex causality. Yep, that is what i was talking about exactly. I remember seeing something on some site months ago showing different stats pertaining to crime, suicide, and things like that in non religious nations as opposed to those stats in religious nations. In "The End Of Faith" Sam Harris talks a little about how the Bible Belt as being the most crime ridden place in America, and how in Western Europe, where religion isn't as intertwined into everything like it is here, they have much less crime than the US. Things like that is what i'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Did you find this site in your search? http://www.prisoners.com/relcrime.html Yes, thats one. I don't really like it for the reasons i listed in my original post. It is to short and not sourced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted October 7, 2008 Super Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2008 It gave this as the source: Journal of Religion and Science of the Creighton university of Omaha, Nebraska, a Jesuit school Lots of interesting articles on the Creighton site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Justin, Look up the FBI Annual Crime Statistics. Buried somewhere in there is a breakdown by *faith* those found guilty and incarcerated. Seeing that say 85%+ odd of population has some religious ties, and only 2-5% are non-affiliated or "ebbile affffIEEEEThs!!!!111!!", why are 90+% of prison populations "religious"? Would it not figure that most or all of we posting here would be doing so from *inside*, or from some from of custodial condition? Goes to show a bit that criminals don't care about laws and rules any more than the Majik Skyspook scares them straight.. kL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 It gave this as the source: Journal of Religion and Science of the Creighton university of Omaha, Nebraska, a Jesuit school Lots of interesting articles on the Creighton site. Yeah i knew it had that as a source but i was looking more for resaerch articles and studies and things like that. That would tend to work better in a debate with someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 Justin, Look up the FBI Annual Crime Statistics. Buried somewhere in there is a breakdown by *faith* those found guilty and incarcerated. Seeing that say 85%+ odd of population has some religious ties, and only 2-5% are non-affiliated or "ebbile affffIEEEEThs!!!!111!!", why are 90+% of prison populations "religious"? Would it not figure that most or all of we posting here would be doing so from *inside*, or from some from of custodial condition? Goes to show a bit that criminals don't care about laws and rules any more than the Majik Skyspook scares them straight.. kL I shall look that up Skip, thanks. I have heard for a while now that most people arrested are religious in some way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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