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Was it Gandhi who said he liked Christianity, it was Christians he didn't like? Was it George Bernard Shaw who wrote Christianity might be a good thing if any would try it?

 

I am fed up with the closed minded, stare up into the sky in hope and down at your feet in shame mentality of MOST Christians...

 

Like Lenny Bruce pointed out over 40 years ago: if there is a God, the only way anyone is gonna find Him (sic) is to get away from the church.

 

Greetings to all who have shuffled off that "immortal" coil of Christianity. Talk about being "born again", eh?

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Hello, kcdad, and welcome.

 

Not sure what you're getting at with your post. Are you saying Christianity is right, but most people just interpret it incorrectly?

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Hello, kcdad, and welcome.

 

Not sure what you're getting at with your post. Are you saying Christianity is right, but most people just interpret it incorrectly?

Christianity has some neat ideas if one strips away most of it and looks at some of the stuff Jesus did, what with the miracles and "love your neighbor" and stuff like that. I think what the OP is saying is that most Christians are bad people with no idea about god, and that when one sheds the Christianity, one can start to discover how the Universe really works and find the concept of god that Christianity babbles on about yet doesn't actually have as its own god.

 

I don't know if that was any more coherent than the OP's post to you, but for what it's worth, I get what he's going for.

 

kcdad, welcome, and I hope whatever it is you believe is working out for you. :)

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Greetings KCDAD,

 

I prefer to think of it as growing up, as opposed to being born again (my post-attempting to be a christian state of mind).

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Welcome to the forums, Kcdad.

 

I do hope you'll post a little more elaborately so we can all be sure we know what's going on with you.

 

So make yourself at home and tell us all about it, okay?

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Hi KCDAD.

 

You may remember me as the evil "Robby" from CF.

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Welcome to the forums, Kcdad.

 

I do hope you'll post a little more elaborately so we can all be sure we know what's going on with you.

 

So make yourself at home and tell us all about it, okay?

Thanks.

As a Sociologist, I probably view religion differently than many. It is not about what you believe so much as how those beliefs change the way you view the world around you. The idea that some things are "sacred" and other things "profane" is a large part of this understanding.

I have little or no doubt that Jesus was a real person, that Mohammad was a real person, that Moses was a real person... but so was Octavian, Rome's "savior, son of god, true god". The difference is of course, Octavian, The August, was so named because of political and economic reasons. The "religious" saviors were so named because of their resistance or opposition to similar political powers.

When did soul... meaning one's mortal body come to mean one's eternal essence?

When did spirit... which meant one's transient- like the wind, or like a breathe- existence, when did it come to mean a ghost like disembodied life?

 

All religions have value... but not in the hands of the powerful or elites of society. It is exactly the Liberation Theologists of the 70s and 80s that got it right. Religion is and always has been about economic and political power.

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All religions have value... but not in the hands of the powerful or elites of society. It is exactly the Liberation Theologists of the 70s and 80s that got it right. Religion is and always has been about economic and political power.

Agree. Religion is power and politics, and it's either in the hands of the leaders of society, or it's in the hands of the grassroots as their means to push back at the leaders.

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