Justin Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 In my experiences, many christians seem not to believe, including my father, that gigantic, destructive meteorites have struck the earth in the past. It almost seems as if impact craters like Chicxulub baffle the piss out of them. They look at Chicxulub and other large impact craters and know that something like that would indeed have wiped out most life on earth, yet no record of such a devastating event is recorded in their bible. They believe if something like this happened it must surely be in their holy book, and an explanation as to why god did it. WTF? they think. If something like that hit the earth most people would have been killed, but my bible tells me that humans have been here since the beginning, yet were only nearly wiped out by a flood, not a meteorite imopact. Then they merely chose not to believe in it, just simply push it out of their minds like so much else. Has anyone else noticed this?
chefranden Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 Yes, all humans are subject to this flaw in reasoning. It is called confirmation bias. It may be or have been a useful evolutionary artifact.
Dhampir Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 Yes, all humans are subject to this flaw in reasoning. It is called confirmation bias. It may be or have been a useful evolutionary artifact. Unfortunately this artifact, like others I could think of, might be so incompatible with others (like rationality) that they compromise survivability or will soon.
RubyHypatia Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 That was a great article, Chefrandin. We skeptics, like Carl Sagan, need to be patient with those who hold onto irrational belief systems. This may be a silly anology, but here it goes. Humans and their religion is like Linus and his blanket. Sometimes we agnostics/atheists are like Snoopy trying to get the blanket away from Linus. Linus hangs tightly on to that blanket and won't let go even though Snoopy drags Linus all over the place and twirls him in the air. When all is said and done, Linus still has his blanket.
OpheliaGinger Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 There are some Christians that have rationalized the crater so that it will fit into their story. God created the earth with dinosaurs on it, then destroyed it to create mammals and humans, or the craters are evidence of fallen angels. Yeah boy, Lucifer was one lard ass when he fell to the earth.
Justin Posted January 18, 2009 Author Posted January 18, 2009 That was a great article, Chefrandin. We skeptics, like Carl Sagan, need to be patient with those who hold onto irrational belief systems. This may be a silly anology, but here it goes. Humans and their religion is like Linus and his blanket. Sometimes we agnostics/atheists are like Snoopy trying to get the blanket away from Linus. Linus hangs tightly on to that blanket and won't let go even though Snoopy drags Linus all over the place and twirls him in the air. When all is said and done, Linus still has his blanket. I actually liked the analogy. It actually conveys the point perfectly.
Dhampir Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 There are some Christians that have rationalized the crater so that it will fit into their story. God created the earth with dinosaurs on it, then destroyed it to create mammals and humans, or the craters are evidence of fallen angels. Yeah boy, Lucifer was one lard ass when he fell to the earth. Yeah, that's what my church preached; that Lucifer was the ruler of the pre-Adamite world in which the dinosaurs walked, and when he fell, he was the meteor-- he and his angels that is-- that destroyed the dinosaurs. Funny that they got all that (and much more) from a three verse passage somewhere in the old testament. Not a whole book, even a chapter, just three verses!
Sexton Blake Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 It isn't just the craters. There is evidence of worldwide firestorms, shattered quartz, iridium, buckyballs, diamond dust, etc from such extinction level impacts which are not mentioned in the bible. Then again, if the Earth is only 6012 years old, how did we have time for this lot: Acraman, Australia Location: 32°1'S, 135°27'E Diameter: 160.000 km Age: 570.00 million years Ames Location: 36°15'N, 98°10'W Diameter: 16.000 km Age: 470.00 +- 30.00 million years Amguid Location: 26°5'N, 4°23'E Diameter: 0.450 km Age: 100,000 years Aouelloul, Mauritania Location: 20°15'N, 12°41'W Diameter: 0.390 km Age: 3.10 +- 0.30 million years Araguainha Dome Location: 16°46'S, 52°59'W Diameter: 40.000 km Age: 249.00 +- 19.00 million years Avak Location: 71°15'N, 156°38'W Diameter: 12.000 km Age: 100.00 +- 5.00 million years Azuara, Spain Location: 41°10'N, 0°55'W Diameter: 30.000 km Age: 130.00 million years B.P. Structure Location: 25°19'N, 24°20'E Diameter: 2.800 km Age: 120.00 million years Barringer, Arizona Location: 35°2'N, 111°1'W Diameter: 1.186 km Age: 49,000 years Beaverhead Location: 44°36'N, 113°0'W Diameter: 60.000 km Age: 600.00 million years Bee Bluff Location: 29°2'N, 99°51'W Diameter: 2.400 km Age: 40.00 million years Beyenchime-Salaatin Location: 71°50'N, 123°30'E Diameter: 8.000 km Age: 65.00 million years Bigach Location: 48°30'N, 82°0'E Diameter: 7.000 km Age: 6.00 +- 3.00 million years Boltysh, Ukraine Location: 48°45'N, 32°10'E Diameter: 25.000 km Age: 88.00 +- 3.00 million years Bosumtwi, Ghana Location: 6°32'N, 1°25'W Diameter: 10.500 km Age: 1.30 +- 0.2 million years Boxhole, North Territory, Australia Location: 22°37'S, 135°12'E Diameter: 0.170 km Age: 30,000 years Brent, Ontario, Canada Location: 46°5'N, 78°29'W Diameter: 3.800 km Age: 450.00 +- 30.00 million years Campo Del Cielo, Argentina Location: 27°38'S, 61°42'W Diameter: 0.050 km Age: 0 years Carswell, Saskatchewan, Canada Location: 58°27'N, 109°30'W Diameter: 39.000 km Age: 115.00 +- 10.00 million years Charlevoix, Canada Location: 47°32'N, 70°18'W Diameter: 54.000 km Age: 357.00 +- 15.00 million years Chicxulub, Mexico Location: 21°20'N, 89°30'W Diameter: 300.000 km Age: 64.98 +- 0.05 million years Chiyli Location: 49°10'N, 57°51'E Diameter: 5.500 km Age: 46.00 +- 7.00 million years Clearwater Lake East, Quebec, Canada Location: 56°5'N, 74°7'W Diameter: 22.000 km Age: 290.00 +- 20.00 million years Clearwater Lake West, Quebec, Canada Location: 56°13'N, 74°30'W Diameter: 32.000 km Age: 290.00 +- 20.00 million years Connolly Basin, Australia Location: 23°32'S, 124°45'E Diameter: 9.000 km Age: 60.00 million years Crooked Creek, Missouri Location: 37°50'N, 91°23'W Diameter: 7.000 km Age: 320.00 +- 80.00 million years Dalgaranga, West Australia Location: 27°45'S, 117°5'E Diameter: 0.021 km Age: 30,000 years Decaturville, Missouri Location: 37°54'N, 92°43'W Diameter: 6.000 km Age: 300.00 million years Deep Bay, Saskatchewan, Canada Location: 56°24'N, 102°59'W Diameter: 13.000 km Age: 100.00 +- 50.00 million years Dellen, Sweden Location: 61°55'N, 16°39'E Diameter: 15.000 km Age: 110.00 +- 2.70 million years Des Plaines, Illinois Location: 42°3'N, 87°52'W Diameter: 8.000 km Age: 280.00 million years Dobele Location: 56°35'N, 23°15'E Diameter: 4.500 km Age: 300.00 +- 35.00 million years Eagle Butte Location: 49°42'N, 110°35'W Diameter: 19.000 km Age: 65.00 million years El'Gygytgyn, Russia Location: 67°30'N, 172°5'E Diameter: 18.000 km Age: 3.50 +- 0.50 million years Flynn Creek, Tennessee Location: 36°17'N, 85°40'W Diameter: 3.550 km Age: 360.00 +- 20.00 million years Garnos Location: 60°39'N, 9°0'E Diameter: 5.000 km Age: 500.00 +- 10.00 million years Glasford, Illinois Location: 40°36'N, 89°47'W Diameter: 4.000 km Age: 430.00 million years Glover Bluff Location: 43°58'N, 89°32'W Diameter: 3.000 km Age: 500.00 million years Goat Paddock Location: 18°20'S, 126°40'E Diameter: 5.100 km Age: 50.00 million years Gosses Bluff, North Territory, Australia Location: 23°50'S, 132°19'E Diameter: 22.000 km Age: 142.50 +- 0.50 million years Gow Lake, Canada Location: 56°27'N, 104°29'W Diameter: 4.000 km Age: 250.00 million years Gusev Location: 48°21'N, 40°14'E Diameter: 3.500 km Age: 65.00 million years Haughton, Canada Location: 75°22'N, 89°41'W Diameter: 20.5 km Age: 21.5 +- 1.00 million years Haviland Location: 37°35'N, 99°10'W Diameter: 0.015 km Age: 0 years Henbury, North Territory, Australia Location: 24°35'S, 133°9'E Diameter: 0.157 km Age: 10,000 years Holleford, Ontario, Canada Location: 44°28'N, 76°38'W Diameter: 2.350 km Age: 550.00 +- 100.00 million years Ile Rouleau Location: 50°41'N, 73°53'W Diameter: 4.000 km Age: 300.00 million years Ilumetsa Location: 57°58'N, 25°25'E Diameter: 0.080 km Age: 0 years Ilyinets Location: 49°6'N, 29°12'E Diameter: 4.500 km Age: 395.00 +- 5.00 million years Janisjarvi, Russia Location: 61°58'N, 30°55'E Diameter: 14.000 km Age: 698.00 +- 22.00 million years Kaalijarvi Location: 58°24'N, 22°40'E Diameter: 0.110 km Age: 0 +- 0 years Kaluga, Russia Location: 54°30'N, 36°15'E Diameter: 15.000 km Age: 380.00 +- 10.00 million years Kamensk Location: 48°20'N, 40°15'E Diameter: 25.000 km Age: 65.00 +- 2.00 million years Kara, Russia Location: 69°5'N, 64°18'E Diameter: 65.000 km Age: 73.00 +- 3.00 million years Kara-Kul, USSR Location: 39°1'N, 73°27'E Diameter: 52.000 km Age: 25.00 million years Kardla Location: 58°59'N, 22°40'E Diameter: 4.000 km Age: 455.00 million years Karla Location: 54°54'N, 48°0'E Diameter: 12.000 km Age: 10.00 million years Kelly West Location: 19°56'S, 133°57'E Diameter: 10.000 km Age: 550.00 million years Kentland, Indiana Location: 40°45'N, 87°24'W Diameter: 13.000 km Age: 300.00 million years Kursk Location: 51°40'N, 36°0'E Diameter: 5.500 km Age: 250.00 +- 80.00 million years Lac Couture, Quebec, Canada Location: 60°8'N, 75°20'W Diameter: 8.000 km Age: 430.00 +- 25.00 million years Lac La Moinerie, Canada Location: 57°26'N, 66°37'W Diameter: 8.000 km Age: 400.00 +- 50.00 million years Lappajarvi, Finland Location: 63°9'N, 23°42'E Diameter: 17.000 km Age: 77.30 +- 0.40 million years Lawn Hill Location: 18°40'S, 138°39'E Diameter: 18.000 km Age: 515.00 million years Liverpool Location: 12°24'S, 134°3'E Diameter: 1.600 km Age: 150.00 +- 70.00 million years Lockne Location: 63°0'N, 14°48'E Diameter: 7.000 km Age: 540.00 +- 10.00 million years Logancha, Russia Location: 65°30'N, 95°48'E Diameter: 20.000 km Age: 25.00 +- 20.00 million years Logoisk Location: 54°12'N, 27°48'E Diameter: 17.000 km Age: 40.00 +- 5.00 million years Lonar, India Location: 19°59'N, 76°31'E Diameter: 1.830 km Age: 52,000 +- 10,000 years Macha Location: 59°59'N, 118°0'E Diameter: 0.300 km Age: 10,000 years Manicouagan, Quebec, Canada Location: 51°23'N, 68°42'W Diameter: 100.000 km Age: 212.00 +- 1.00 million years Manson, Iowa Location: 42°35'N, 94°31'W Diameter: 35.000 km Age: 65.70 +- 1.00 million years Marquez Location: 31°17'N, 96°18'W Diameter: 22.000 km Age: 58.00 +- 2.00 million years Middlesboro, Kentucky Location: 36°37'N, 83°44'W Diameter: 6.000 km Age: 300.00 million years Mien, Sweden Location: 56°25'N, 14°52'E Diameter: 9.000 km Age: 121.00 +- 2.30 million years Misarai Location: 54°0'N, 23°54'E Diameter: 5.000 km Age: 395.00 +- 145.00 million years Mishina Gora Location: 58°40'N, 28°0'E Diameter: 4.000 km Age: 360.00 million years Mistastin, Labrador, Canada Location: 55°53'N, 63°18'W Diameter: 28.000 km Age: 38.00 +- 4.00 million years Montagnais Location: 42°53'N, 64°13'W Diameter: 45.000 km Age: 50.50 +- 0.76 million years Monturaqui, Chile Location: 23°56'S, 68°17'W Diameter: 0.460 km Age: 1.00 million years Morasko Location: 52°29'N, 16°54'E Diameter: 0.100 km Age: 10,000 years New Quebec, Quebec, Canada Location: 61°17'N, 73°40'W Diameter: 3.440 km Age: 1.40 +- 0.10 million years Nicholson Lake, Canada Location: 62°40'N, 102°41'W Diameter: 12.500 km Age: 400.00 million years Oasis Location: 24°35'N, 24°24'E Diameter: 11.500 km Age: 120.00 million years Obolon Location: 49°30'N, 32°55'E Diameter: 15.000 km Age: 215.00 +- 25.00 million years Odessa, Texas Location: 31°45'N, 102°29'W Diameter: 0.168 km Age: 50,000 years Ouarkziz, Algeria Location: 29°0'N, 7°33'W Diameter: 3.500 km Age: 70.00 million years Piccaninny Location: 17°32'S, 128°25'E Diameter: 7.000 km Age: 360.00 million years Pilot Lake, Canada Location: 60°17'N, 111°1'W Diameter: 5.80 km Age: 445.00 +- 2.00 million years Popigai Location: 71°30'N, 111°0'E Diameter: 100.000 km Age: 35.00 +- 5.00 million years Presqu'Ile Location: 49°43'N, 78°48'W Diameter: 12.000 km Age: 500.00 million years Pretoria Salt Pan, South Africa Location: 25°24'S, 28°5'E Diameter: 1.130 km Age: 200,000 years Puchezh-Katunki Location: 57°6'N, 43°35'E Diameter: 80.000 km Age: 220.00 +- 10.00 million years Ragozinka, Russia Location: 58°18'N, 62°0'E Diameter: 9.000 km Age: 55.00 +- 5.00 million years Red Wing Location: 47°36'N, 103°33'W Diameter: 9.000 km Age: 200.00 +- 25.00 million years Riachao Ring Location: 7°43'S, 46°39'W Diameter: 4.500 km Age: 200.00 million years Ries, Germany Location: 48°53'N, 10°37'E Diameter: 24.000 km Age: 14.8 +- 1.00 million years Rio Cuarto Location: 30°52'S, 64°14'W Diameter: 4.500 km Age: 100,000 years Rochechouart, France Location: 45°50'N, 0°56'E Diameter: 23.000 km Age: 186.00 +- 8.00 million years Roter Kamm, Namibia Location: 27°46'S, 16°18'E Diameter: 2.500 km Age: 5.0 +- 0.30 million years Rotmistrovka Location: 49°0'N, 32°0'E Diameter: 2.700 km Age: 140.00 +- 20.00 million years Saaksjarvi, Finland Location: 61°24'N, 22°24'E Diameter: 5.000 km Age: 514.00 +- 12.00 million years Saint Martin, Canada Location: 51°47'N, 98°32'W Diameter: 40.000 km Age: 220.0 +- 32.00 million years Serpent Mound, Ohio Location: 39°2'N, 83°24'W Diameter: 6.40 km Age: 320.00 million years Serra Da Cangalha Location: 8°5'S, 46°52'W Diameter: 12.000 km Age: 300.00 million years Shunak, Kazakhstan Location: 47°12'N, 72°42'E Diameter: 3.100 km Age: 12.00 +- 5.00 million years Sierra Madera, Texas Location: 30°36'N, 102°55'W Diameter: 13.000 km Age: 100.00 million years Sikhote Alin, USSR Location: 46°7'N, 134°40'E Diameter: 0.027 km Age: 0 years Siljan, Sweden Location: 61°2'N, 14°52'E Diameter: 55.000 km Age: 368.00 +- 1.10 million years Slate Islands Location: 48°40'N, 87°0'W Diameter: 30.000 km Age: 350.00 million years Sobolev Location: 46°18'N, 138°52'E Diameter: 0.053 km Age: 0 years Soderfjarden, Finland Location: 63°0'N, 21°35'E Diameter: 6.000 km Age: 550.00 million years Spider, Australia Location: 16°44'S, 126°5'E Diameter: 13.000 km Age: 570.00 million years Steen River, Canada Location: 59°31'N, 117°37'W Diameter: 25.000 km Age: 95.00 +- 7.00 million years Steinheim, Germany Location: 48°40'N, 10°4'E Diameter: 3.800 km Age: 14.80 +- 0.70 million years Strangways Location: 15°12'S, 133°35'E Diameter: 25.000 km Age: 470.00 million years Sudbury, Ontario, Canada Location: 46°36'N, 81°11'W Diameter: 200.000 km Age: 1850.00 +- 3.00 million years Tabun-Khara-Obo Location: 44°6'N, 109°36'E Diameter: 1.300 km Age: 3.00 million years Talemzane, Algeria Location: 33°19'N, 4°2'E Diameter: 1.750 km Age: 3.00 million years Teague, Australia Location: 25°52'S, 120°53'E Diameter: 30.000 km Age: 1685.00 +- 5.00 million years Tenoumer, Mauritania Location: 22°55'N, 10°24'W Diameter: 1.900 km Age: 2.50 +- 0.50 million years Ternovka Location: 48°1'N, 33°5'E Diameter: 12.000 km Age: 280.00 +- 10.00 million years Tin Bider Location: 27°36'N, 5°7'E Diameter: 6.000 km Age: 70.00 million years Tookoonooka Location: 27°0'S, 143°0'E Diameter: 55.000 km Age: 128.00 +- 5.00 million years Tvaren Location: 58°46'N, 17°25'E Diameter: 2.000 km Age: 0 years Upheaval Dome, Utah Location: 38°26'N, 109°54'W Diameter: 5.000 km Age: 65.00 million years Ust-Kara Location: 69°18'N, 65°18'E Diameter: 25.000 km Age: 73.00 +- 3.00 million years Vargeao Dome Location: 26°50'S, 52°7'W Diameter: 12.000 km Age: 70.00 million years Veevers Location: 22°58'S, 125°22'E Diameter: 0.080 km Age: 1.00 million years Vepriaj Location: 55°6'N, 24°36'E Diameter: 8.000 km Age: 160.00 +- 30.00 million years Vredefort, South Africa Location: 27°0'S, 27°30'E Diameter: 140.000 km see below Age: 1970.00 +- 100.00 million years Wabar, Arabia Location: 21°30'N, 50°28'E Diameter: 0.097 km Age: 10,000 +- 0 years Wanapitei Lake, Canada Location: 46°45'N, 80°45'W Diameter: 7.500 km Age: 37.00 +- 2.00 million years Wells Creek, Tennessee Location: 36°23'N, 87°40'W Diameter: 14.000 km Age: 200.00 +- 100.00 million years West Hawk Lake, Canada Location: 49°46'N, 95°11'W Diameter: 3.150 km Age: 100.00 +- 50.00 million years Wolfe Creek, West Australia Location: 19°18'S, 127°46'E Diameter: 0.875 km Age: 300,000 years Zapadnaya Location: 49°44'N, 29°0'E Diameter: 4.000 km Age: 115.00 +- 10.00 million years Zeleny Gai Location: 48°42'N, 32°54'E Diameter: 2.500 km Age: 120.00 +- 20.00 million years Zhamanshin, Kazakhstan Location: 48°24'N, 60°58'E Diameter: 13.500 km Age: 900,000 +- 100,000 years
Justin Posted January 20, 2009 Author Posted January 20, 2009 Thanks for that comprehensive list Sexton.
Justin Posted January 20, 2009 Author Posted January 20, 2009 I'd like to add that most christians could just explain away diamond dust, shocked quartz, evidence for worldwide firestorms, iridium and buckyballs by saying it could all be volcanic in origin or say some other natural process did it. Craters, on the other hand, are not as easy to explain away. Though, as some have already pointed out on here, christians could say that they are the remains of were Satan's and his fellow angels posteriors fell.
mwc Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 I'd like to add that most christians could just explain away diamond dust, shocked quartz, evidence for worldwide firestorms, iridium and buckyballs by saying it could all be volcanic in origin or say some other natural process did it. Craters, on the other hand, are not as easy to explain away. Though, as some have already pointed out on here, christians could say that they are the remains of were Satan's and his fellow angels posteriors fell. You can't explain these things away with volcanoes unless you're a freaking moron. Seriously. I've said it in the past. I walked away from astronomy because the classes I was in (one in particular) made fun of the bible (a student said it was written by "ignorant sheepherders" and I was shocked when everyone laughed and the teacher made no defense like I somehow thought he should...it was like one of those stupid emails but not so extreme). I couldn't be in a world that seriously thought the universe was 12 billion years old instead of the realistic 6000 that it was. I went to geology to finish my science requirements thinking that would be "safe." I was so very wrong. No jokes were made but my professors were great especially my lab prof. He was one of these guys that traveled the world visiting impact craters. He had nothing but evidence. It rocked my little xian world. I had to rethink everything and I went from a young earther to an old earther. I went from a young literalist to being far more liberal. I couldn't escape what those classes put in front of me. I knew how these systems worked and understood that a global flood couldn't have ever occurred but meteors and dinos (which I never believed existed) had to have. Geology (no pun intended) reshaped my world. Not enough to make me deconvert but I imagine it played a role when the time came. mwc
Justin Posted January 21, 2009 Author Posted January 21, 2009 You can't explain these things away with volcanoes unless you're a freaking moron. Well yes, indeed we are talking about Christians here. What i mean is, most christians are not going to have a scientific background to know squat about any of those things, and they could easily just assume that they are volcanic or just an ordinary rock, even after reading the evidence to the contrary. But craters, there is no mistaking what a crater is.
MaleficVTwin Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Thanks for that comprehensive list Sexton. Yes, that's one hell of a list.
Sexton Blake Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 I like tillite rocks. They are formed by glaciation and can be found in one of the last places you'd expect to find them - the Equator. A remnant of snowball Earth some 700,000,000 years ago. I think either an asteroid or comet impact started the thawing out process.
Kyle Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 There are some Christians that have rationalized the crater so that it will fit into their story. God created the earth with dinosaurs on it, then destroyed it to create mammals and humans, or the craters are evidence of fallen angels. Yeah boy, Lucifer was one lard ass when he fell to the earth. Yeah, that's what my church preached; that Lucifer was the ruler of the pre-Adamite world in which the dinosaurs walked, and when he fell, he was the meteor-- he and his angels that is-- that destroyed the dinosaurs. Funny that they got all that (and much more) from a three verse passage somewhere in the old testament. Not a whole book, even a chapter, just three verses! W...T....F??? And I thought I had heard all the hairbrain explanations of natural phenomena.
Justin Posted February 5, 2009 Author Posted February 5, 2009 There are some Christians that have rationalized the crater so that it will fit into their story. God created the earth with dinosaurs on it, then destroyed it to create mammals and humans, or the craters are evidence of fallen angels. Yeah boy, Lucifer was one lard ass when he fell to the earth. Yeah, that's what my church preached; that Lucifer was the ruler of the pre-Adamite world in which the dinosaurs walked, and when he fell, he was the meteor-- he and his angels that is-- that destroyed the dinosaurs. Funny that they got all that (and much more) from a three verse passage somewhere in the old testament. Not a whole book, even a chapter, just three verses! W...T....F??? And I thought I had heard all the hairbrain explanations of natural phenomena. Have you heard the one about how the Sons of God built the Egyptian and Mayan pyramids? My funide friend and his pastor believe that.
Kyle Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 There are some Christians that have rationalized the crater so that it will fit into their story. God created the earth with dinosaurs on it, then destroyed it to create mammals and humans, or the craters are evidence of fallen angels. Yeah boy, Lucifer was one lard ass when he fell to the earth. Yeah, that's what my church preached; that Lucifer was the ruler of the pre-Adamite world in which the dinosaurs walked, and when he fell, he was the meteor-- he and his angels that is-- that destroyed the dinosaurs. Funny that they got all that (and much more) from a three verse passage somewhere in the old testament. Not a whole book, even a chapter, just three verses! W...T....F??? And I thought I had heard all the hairbrain explanations of natural phenomena. Have you heard the one about how the Sons of God built the Egyptian and Mayan pyramids? My funide friend and his pastor believe that. No, I haven't had the pleasure of hearing that one
Tabula Rasa Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 I'm not certain if I remember correctly, but I believe an old earth theory I had was that Lucifer and his angels ruled over earth at one time and the destruction of the dinosaurs was a result of the "War in Heaven" between the angels loyal to God and the ones loyal to Lucifer. As for the long amount of time between the cataclysm that killed off the dinosaurs and mankind getting started, I never really gave that much thought.
Snafutopia Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 That was a great article, Chefrandin. We skeptics, like Carl Sagan, need to be patient with those who hold onto irrational belief systems. This may be a silly anology, but here it goes. Humans and their religion is like Linus and his blanket. Sometimes we agnostics/atheists are like Snoopy trying to get the blanket away from Linus. Linus hangs tightly on to that blanket and won't let go even though Snoopy drags Linus all over the place and twirls him in the air. When all is said and done, Linus still has his blanket. oh, this reminds me... at the Baptist Christmas program a few weeks ago, the "service" consisted of: 40+ minutes of songs led by the egomaniacal "worship pastor" 2 minutes of Bible reading by the preacher Then the preacher showed (on the very multi-thousand-dollar audio-visual equipment) the scene from "A Charlie Brown Christmas" where Linus is explaining to Charlie Brown "the meaning of Christmas." At the end of the scene, Charlie Brown walks off into the night carrying his little Christmas tree. Click. Lights back on. And the preacher announces, "See there? Charlie Brown knows the true meaning of Christmas!" This brilliant intellectual display was followed by a prayer, then an attempt to guilt the audience into giving more money to the church, and then another prayer. The end.
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