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While I can understand caring for the wellbeing of children and I agree some of young adult novels are trashy and over do it, but something about this site rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it's their hysteria over Playboy and the ALA wanting to peddle and shove smut into the throats of innocent kids. They claim that they're only informing parents about the evils of certain books, how easy it's to access porn on library computers and how libraries should keep a better hold on what goes by. The woman they're trying to discredit actually makes some good points...

 

"You should have access to ideas and information regardless of your age," Krug said. "If anyone is going to limit or guide a young person, it should be the parent or guardian -- and only the parent or guardian."

 

The First Amendment is national in scope and ... it does not stop at the schoolhouse door," said the ALA's Krug. "Not all children are the same. Is a 17-year-old on the eve of his 18th birthday the same as a five-year-old? It is not the responsibility of librarians ... to determine what is appropriate."

 

Maybe it's a bit for a selfish reason. I'm an aspiring writer with a dark, twisted sense of humor and one YA (aimed at older teens) story I want to do does have a character who is beaten by his father who is gradually going insane and tries to kill him (it's an occult-horror novel). I just don't feel like I should have to bow to the whims of some hysteric whiner who sees porn everywhere. And when you think about it, how far will these people go? When I was a teenager I read Stephen King, Harlan Ellison and Clive Barker which are all in the adult section and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Will these people when they discover there are kids going into those sections and coming across questionable stuff start demanding that the adult section be sealed off so kids can't sneak off into them and that librarians should keep a close watch to make sure they don't while screaming about how the ALA wants to lure children with the feeling that they can "be grown-ups too" if they go into the adult section?

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I agree with you 100%. It seems as though the fundies don't mind violence too much (Mel Gibson's bloodfest). But sex.... oh, boy, look out.

 

I have a friend who is on the local library board. The ONLY thing she dislikes about the job is dealing with the outrageous fundies.

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I too am a writer, not necessarily aspiring but more as a hobby, but I quite frankly do not care what other will say about my work (other than if it is actual literary criticism that could improve my writing). The fundies will always find something to ban, so think of it as a boost when they ban your work--it will actually get more people reading it because it is now taboo.

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The interesting thing about these people is that they claim they aren't anti-free speech\pro-censorship and how the ALA is using propaganda against them yet demand that librarians not accept "pornographic" material (to their standards) and do whatever they can to keep kids away from it. They even scoff at the quotes I posted about parents being the guides and realizeing that not every age has the same mentality. I don't doubt that some of them honestly care about kids but it seems they want the rest of the world to censor itself because all kids stay in the mentality of a 5-year-old and magically become adults when they turn 18.

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I don't want to see skin mags on the magazine racks at the library, nor "Guns N Ammo," and I don't want my kids walking by while the smelly old pervert makes the best of his 20 minutes of free internet time to fap loudly under the table.

 

But I don't see that anyway. Librarians have kids too, and do a good job of making sure people's access to books and information is balanced with the need to put some of the adult material in places where the kiddies won't find it too easily.

 

And besides, what are young kids doing running around the library without their parents anyway? They should be at home, with TV remote controls in their hands, while mom and/or dad are off doing a bible study or drinking wild turkey or whatever.

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But I don't see that anyway. Librarians have kids too, and do a good job of making sure people's access to books and information is balanced with the need to put some of the adult material in places where the kiddies won't find it too easily.

 

And besides, what are young kids doing running around the library without their parents anyway? They should be at home, with TV remote controls in their hands, while mom and/or dad are off doing a bible study or drinking wild turkey or whatever.

 

Granted it's a little harder with teens because they have more independence and can go to libraries without help. As I said before, these people may deny it but they want librians to meet THEIR standards.

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I don't want to see skin mags on the magazine racks at the library, nor "Guns N Ammo," and I don't want my kids walking by while the smelly old pervert makes the best of his 20 minutes of free internet time to fap loudly under the table.

Well, that's YOU! When *I* am at the library it is a pants free zone and I damned well intend to keep it that way. And what I do over your shoulder when you're browsing the net is MY business. That <tap tap tap> you feel is just a sort of timer to let you know how much time is left. :twitch:

 

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Uhmm, wow. Libraries around here have kid-specific computers where they play games based on cartoons and can't access the internet aside from looking up things in the library catalog. Furthermore, they don't have kids there alone - they have to be accompanied by an adult.

 

As for teens, they tend to stick to the young adult or reference sections for the most part, either studying or whining in loud whispers that they can never get a copy of Twilight before it's snaffled up again. In fact, the worst I've seen was a homeless man perusing the ads with bikini-clad women in them in a magazine (no worse than you'd see on the average billboard), and his hands were busy holding his coffee (they had a machine that dispensed the foulest coffee-like substance ever there) and turning the pages. He looked more longingly at the booze in the ads than the women.

 

In fact, the most explicit material I see there is romance novels. Nobody's ever in that section.

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Uhmm, wow. Libraries around here have kid-specific computers where they play games based on cartoons and can't access the internet aside from looking up things in the library catalog. Furthermore, they don't have kids there alone - they have to be accompanied by an adult.

 

As for teens, they tend to stick to the young adult or reference sections for the most part, either studying or whining in loud whispers that they can never get a copy of Twilight before it's snaffled up again. In fact, the worst I've seen was a homeless man perusing the ads with bikini-clad women in them in a magazine (no worse than you'd see on the average billboard), and his hands were busy holding his coffee (they had a machine that dispensed the foulest coffee-like substance ever there) and turning the pages. He looked more longingly at the booze in the ads than the women.

 

In fact, the most explicit material I see there is romance novels. Nobody's ever in that section.

 

That's very true. And there's librarians watching you as you surf in the non-kid section so finding porn and getting away with it is tricky.

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