Guest joe nesmith Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 "a new life do you want it?" by the universal life church. it'll help anyone wanting to subconsciously leave christianity to an extent. i was a TOTAL wreck when i picked it up. highly recommend it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffXL Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I'm an ordained minister in the ULC-- I became one back in the 1980s because clergy can't be drafted. But the best thing about ULC ordination is that I've performed legal marriage ceremonies for seven couples. None of them had to jump through some Xtian minister's hoops to satisfy his or her sick power fetish. Oh, and I do it for free (though I've gotten some small gifts). Does anyone know the going rate for the greedy grasping clergy these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest amylong Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Hmmm, I think the money-grubbing amount is around $200 to $250. I charge $150, but friends are for free. I've never read Kirby's book. What about it did you like? --Rev. Amy Long www.ulcseminary.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joe nesmith Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 i was going through some post tramatic stress whilst quitting tobacco, people treated me like i was nuts, but the truth was: my christian upbringing just blew up in my face. people think its funny when some poor soul suddenly realizes he was unwittingly brainwashed as a child, and now he has to deal with it on his own, etc. it became clear that my mind wasn't my own. wanted it back, got most of it so far. he came up baptist i could relate to that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'm moving this to the Ex-Christian life, since it's not a testimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
★ Citsonga ★ Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Does anyone know the going rate for the greedy grasping clergy these days? I don't know about the greedy ones, but to the best of my recollection my wife and I were only charged $50 for both the church and pastor when we got married nearly 14 years ago. I felt that that was extremely reasonable. After all, they do have utility bills to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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