Guest SerenityNow Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 1 Corinthians 12:2-4 3Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," I said Jesus be cursed! and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. Jesus is lord! Holy shit, I'm filled with the Spirit! I urge other ExChristians and Christians to try this same thing (of course out of utter fear of hell, some of our Christian members wouldn't dare say "Jesus be cursed" but go ahead say "Jesus is Lord." According to Paul, because I can SAY, "Jesus is Lord" that means I am filled with the Holy Spirit, because NO ONE can say "Jesus is Lord" EXCEPT by the Holy Spirit....So, that being said...because the bible says it, that settles it...I'm just as much of a spiritual authority on the bible as any spirit filled Christian. My Holy Spirit tells me that the bible is a crock of shit and to do away with the damn bible and it's myths altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Serenity, you are just too cool. Jesus be cursed!!!!! Jesus is Lord!!!!! Actually, I have a good idea of what type of excuse they will give in order to explain just how in the world we're getting away with this, but I'll just wait'n see for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 How much you wanna bet that this is one of those these three words are literal and these three words are spiritual apologetics? LOL Actually, I was thinking along the lines of getting prepared to be called "fence-sitters" and "Luke-warmies" as an explanation as to why we can "get away" with saying both of those statements. Pssst...you thought when you opened this that you'd see me posting that I'd gone back to the cult, didn't ya??? Maybe a little bit. Just a little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkepticOfBible Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 [According to Paul, because I can SAY, "Jesus is Lord" that means I am filled with the Holy Spirit, because NO ONE can say "Jesus is Lord" EXCEPT by the Holy Spirit....So, that being said...because the bible says it, that settles it...I'm just as much of a spiritual authority on the bible as any spirit filled Christian. My Holy Spirit tells me that the bible is a crock of shit and to do away with the damn bible and it's myths altogether. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimov Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 1 Corinthians 12:2-4 THAT IS SOOOOO OUT OF CONTEXT!!!! God are you dumb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 People say 'I love you' all the time. And yet no one can say 'I love you' and have their words be true unless they love the one they speak the phrase ' I love you' to. I can't see the problem with this bit of the Bible. When I was a Christian the only way I could say 'Jesus is Lord' and have it be true, was by subjecting my life to the belief that Jesus was my Lord and by allowing my life and responses to be shaped by a teaching I thought was the Holy Spirit. The only was I could say 'Jesus be cursed' and have it mean anything was if it was an expression of abandoning the above set of beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I can see it now. We all pipe in with our little jesus is lord test and some bozo xtian is going to say "See, I told you every knee shall bow..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Shadow Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 1 Corinthians 12:2-4 3Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," I said Jesus be cursed! and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. Jesus is lord! Holy shit, I'm filled with the Spirit! I urge other ExChristians and Christians to try this same thing (of course out of utter fear of hell, some of our Christian members wouldn't dare say "Jesus be cursed" but go ahead say "Jesus is Lord." According to Paul, because I can SAY, "Jesus is Lord" that means I am filled with the Holy Spirit, because NO ONE can say "Jesus is Lord" EXCEPT by the Holy Spirit....So, that being said...because the bible says it, that settles it...I'm just as much of a spiritual authority on the bible as any spirit filled Christian. My Holy Spirit tells me that the bible is a crock of shit and to do away with the damn bible and it's myths altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dastywoo Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 1 Corinthians 12:2-4 3Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," I said Jesus be cursed! and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. Jesus is lord! Holy shit, I'm filled with the Spirit! I urge other ExChristians and Christians to try this same thing (of course out of utter fear of hell, some of our Christian members wouldn't dare say "Jesus be cursed" but go ahead say "Jesus is Lord." According to Paul, because I can SAY, "Jesus is Lord" that means I am filled with the Holy Spirit, because NO ONE can say "Jesus is Lord" EXCEPT by the Holy Spirit....So, that being said...because the bible says it, that settles it...I'm just as much of a spiritual authority on the bible as any spirit filled Christian. My Holy Spirit tells me that the bible is a crock of shit and to do away with the damn bible and it's myths altogether. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Damn it! You found our secret remote control! That's how we get the spirit in, and then out again when we're ready. "Hmm... I want the spirit in me. 'Jesus is Lord!' Wait, I'm tired of this now. 'Jesus be cursed!'" Peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clergicide Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 That loophole kicks ass!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_1012 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 People say 'I love you' all the time. And yet no one can say 'I love you' and have their words be true unless they love the one they speak the phrase ' I love you' to. I can't see the problem with this bit of the Bible. When I was a Christian the only way I could say 'Jesus is Lord' and have it be true, was by subjecting my life to the belief that Jesus was my Lord and by allowing my life and responses to be shaped by a teaching I thought was the Holy Spirit. The only was I could say 'Jesus be cursed' and have it mean anything was if it was an expression of abandoning the above set of beliefs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That was pretty on, and a Christian didn't even have to explain it. And for the record, I do believe non-christians can have once been Christians (I do believe professing non-christians very well may have once actually been Christian)... It is just that not everyone who claims they were one, was one. Some were, but not all, and dare I say most (majority) never were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 That was pretty on, and a Christian didn't even have to explain it. And for the record, I do believe non-christians can have once been Christians (I do believe professing non-christians very well may have once actually been Christian)... It is just that not everyone who claims they were one, was one. Some were, but not all, and dare I say most (majority) never were. Dan, according to your Carbon Copy of Truth, you're not a Real Christian either. I got a little secret for you, there has never been a Real Christian based upon the Biblical Regulations and there never will be. And that, my good sir, is Truth. But you just keep that good'ol judgmental attitude up, and you'll never have to look in the mirror, m'kay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQTA Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Damn it! You found our secret remote control! That's how we get the spirit in, and then out again when we're ready. "Hmm... I want the spirit in me. 'Jesus is Lord!' Wait, I'm tired of this now. 'Jesus be cursed!'" Peace! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Clap on Clap off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bdp Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Some were, but not all, and dare I say most (majority) never were. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And I dare say you're quite full of shit, completely ignorant in this matter, and in massive loads of denial. Still fwee said it much better than I ever could. Fwee rules! bdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Hesistent, Yes, I know what you are saying. Just pointing out another area in the "word" in which an absolute is given, in which there is no meat. The authors made mistakes by choosing many of the following words; cannot, always, except, nothing is impossible, it is impossible, no one can say, etc. It is wrong, IMO, for a Christian to say that we cannot understand the bible because we are not spiritual and then pick and choose what words/phrases are to be interepreted "spiritually" and "literally". When backed into a corner the not having a "spiritual" understanding of scriptures is thrown in the face of an Ex-believer. I have no doubt that somewhere, there is some denomination out there who accept the bible as even more literal than I did and they truly believe that that passage is to be taken literally. I know that I took the verse out of context, but really, thats no different than what "believers" of tons of denominations do in order to read scripture as they want to. A little tweak here, a little not literal there, ah spirtual here, a little cut, a little paste, a little twisting and "Viola!" One can make the bible read however they want it to read. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You people are a lot closer to God than you relize. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQTA Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 You people are a lot closer to God than you relize. Peace <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, we're a lot less different than Christians cast aspersions. Although, perhaps, in a way, the statement may be the other way. We may be very close to God, it may be Christians who are further away than they'll ever realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 You people are a lot closer to God than you relize. Shinedown - Stranger Inside Don't push your ignorance on me I'm not unrehearsed to your jealousy And I know you think I don't see the signs Well how do you know, do I look blind So take it while you can so you can meet demands My insanity is what you thrive on So rip it from my soul so everyone will know in the end We were never friends Have you ever felt lost inside so unloved within that you almost die Have you ever stepped out of the light and realized there's a stranger inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JP1283 Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Can I just say that I really enjoyed this thread? Bravo, SN and Fwee. Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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