Googledotman Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Since I moved to a new campus last year, I noticed that my new campus has at least 6 Christian groups that are big influences on campus. They were so big, that my prospects for friends were mostly Christians. One time, I was eating lunch with one of my friend prospects who was a Christian, but when I mentioned I was an apostate (someone who denounced Christianity) I was blasted for 2 hours in an effort to try to reconvert me. Quickly realizing I would have a hard time making friends as a non-Christian, I lied about my ex-Christian status and found a lot of good things to do to make friends. Granted they were halfway progressive Christians, but there have been plenty of times where they would say certain things that were mean about non-Christians. Eventually, they all got together had an idea to have a Christian men's group, that would totally focus on Christian male values. However, they noticed that I led a LGBT group on campus and thought if I could lead the LGBT organization that I would be betraying the integrity of the men's Christian group. So I decided to come out as a homosexual and a non-Christian and they all rejected me. The moral of the story, I don't know, I just felt I had to vent.
XcaliburGirl Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Sorry that happened to you. I hope you have luck finding some friends that are less full of their own "righteousness".
par4dcourse Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 So I decided to come out as a homosexual and a non-Christian and they all rejected me. Then they weren't true friends at all.
SoulofSilver Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 You were rejected by people who weren't your friends and don't matter.
OpheliaGinger Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 If the only basis they would ever associate with you is if you lied about being Christian, then they weren't worth being around. I would rather be alone and true to myself than put on a false veneer in order to have companionship.
Ouroboros Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Since I moved to a new campus last year, I noticed that my new campus has at least 6 Christian groups that are big influences on campus. At our school the club council decided to put a stop to more Christian clubs. There are a bunch here too. You can only find one art club, one or two music clubs, two honor clubs, and only one of every other group, but there are several Christian clubs. Can't they unite? Do they really have to have a Christian Bible Club, Christian Fellowship Club, Christian Community Club, Christian Outreach Club, Christian Prayer Club, Christian ... and so on? It's almost like they need a Christian go-potty club and Christian live-eat-and-breathe club as well. Perhaps even a Christian Whatever Club to cover everything else.
Guest ephymeris Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 That sucks move on and find friends you can truly value because they accept you for who you are. You don't need christianity as a crutch to meet people.
ClaraOlive Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 I don't know. I kind of disagree that the whole fault was on them and that they're the shitty friends. If it were the other way around and I was part of a Freethinkers group and had made friends with a guy who said he was an atheist, and then after making friends with everyone, he told us he was actually an Evangelical Christian, I'd have a really hard time trusting him and I'd suspect that he'd been using us, maybe laughing at us behind our backs, or had some kind of agenda besides just wanting friends. It would take a lot to convince me to keep being friends with that person. So I can't blame a Christian group for feeling the same way. And I do sympathize, because I also have faked being a Christian before to delay social rejection, but I still think it's very hard to maintain a friendship after you find out that the other person has been deceiving you for months.
Vixentrox Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Better to be alone than deal with vile, preachy Christians if you don't have to.
SoulofSilver Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 I don't know. I kind of disagree that the whole fault was on them and that they're the shitty friends. If it were the other way around and I was part of a Freethinkers group and had made friends with a guy who said he was an atheist, and then after making friends with everyone, he told us he was actually an Evangelical Christian, I'd have a really hard time trusting him and I'd suspect that he'd been using us, maybe laughing at us behind our backs, or had some kind of agenda besides just wanting friends. It would take a lot to convince me to keep being friends with that person. So I can't blame a Christian group for feeling the same way. At least he was truthful at first. He had friends who had witnessed him profess to not believe and was blasted. I can honestly say that in the same situation I might have quickly changed my story as well "Oh, haha guys jk/changed my mind/whatever. The Christian clubs at a school have people that will treat you just as badly as that greek organization you won't join.
★ Citsonga ★ Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 If you have to fake who you are to get friends, then they're not really friends. I would rather be genuine than deceptive anyway. But then again, isolation wouldn't be any fun, so if I were in an extreme situation, I'm not sure what I would do.
hereticzero Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Since I moved to a new campus last year, I noticed that my new campus has at least 6 Christian groups that are big influences on campus. They were so big, that my prospects for friends were mostly Christians. One time, I was eating lunch with one of my friend prospects who was a Christian, but when I mentioned I was an apostate (someone who denounced Christianity) I was blasted for 2 hours in an effort to try to reconvert me. Quickly realizing I would have a hard time making friends as a non-Christian, I lied about my ex-Christian status and found a lot of good things to do to make friends. Granted they were halfway progressive Christians, but there have been plenty of times where they would say certain things that were mean about non-Christians. Eventually, they all got together had an idea to have a Christian men's group, that would totally focus on Christian male values. However, they noticed that I led a LGBT group on campus and thought if I could lead the LGBT organization that I would be betraying the integrity of the men's Christian group. So I decided to come out as a homosexual and a non-Christian and they all rejected me. The moral of the story, I don't know, I just felt I had to vent. Trust me when I say, they were never your friends! People that hung up on religious doctrine are no one's friend except for themselves.
R. S. Martin Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Since I moved to a new campus last year, I noticed that my new campus has at least 6 Christian groups that are big influences on campus. They were so big, that my prospects for friends were mostly Christians. One time, I was eating lunch with one of my friend prospects who was a Christian, but when I mentioned I was an apostate (someone who denounced Christianity) I was blasted for 2 hours in an effort to try to reconvert me. Quickly realizing I would have a hard time making friends as a non-Christian, I lied about my ex-Christian status and found a lot of good things to do to make friends. Granted they were halfway progressive Christians, but there have been plenty of times where they would say certain things that were mean about non-Christians. Eventually, they all got together had an idea to have a Christian men's group, that would totally focus on Christian male values. I've already read the entire story and all the responses. But at that point in your story I was looking forward to the Christians' surprise to find that the atheist guy had the same manly values as the Christians. However, they noticed that I led a LGBT group on campus and thought if I could lead the LGBT organization that I would be betraying the integrity of the men's Christian group. So I decided to come out as a homosexual and a non-Christian and they all rejected me. Yeah that sure sucks. The moral of the story, I don't know, I just felt I had to vent. I can see that you had to vent and I don't know if there is a moral to the story. But you say you are leading an LGBT organization. I would guess you've got friends there if not on campus. My best advice is to use school and its campus for what it was invented: to study and acquire a formal education, and to focus your social energies on people who will appreciate them. Good luck.
swdee Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 I was in a similar situation. For a couple of years now I have rejected Christianity's core teachings but my main social life was with my church group, so I decided to keep going along and not bringing up my "controversial" points of view very often. I was afraid of looing friends. Nobody really knew and I had the group in my house quite a few times for the meetings. But recently I felt I just couldn't stand all the lies and hypocrasy any longer so have quitted and, even though I have fewer friends, I am making making new friends with non-christians and actually really enjoying myself for a change! It's quite refreshing not to have to watch what you say all the time. It shows who my true friends are as hardly anyone from the group has contacted me since!
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