SirPhoenix Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Ran across Jesus Camp on Netflix instant (all hail the great and glorious Netflix). I had heard about this documentary and decided to check it out. OMFZ (oh my fucking zeus). I probably would have been cheering for the Christians a few years back, but today.....wow. At one point the lady that runs the camp had the kids in the pews and was telling them she KNEW that some of them were liars and hypocrites. She KNEW that they used bad language at school and only acted like Christians on Sunday. She told them they better come up and get cleansed. These poor kids were crying and begging gawd to forgive them for being KIDS for fucks sake. It made me sick to my stomach. Some Christians are mostly harmless because they go about their business and let their children decide for themselves if they believe or not The Christians in this video are most certainly NOT harmless. Anyone seen this documentary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryper Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 saw it a couple of years ago. Yeah...scary shit. If anybody wondered if religious militants could arise in the US, then they never watched this movie. These are our future terrorists. Ted Haggart in the Moive was arrested on drug and male prostitution charges shortly after the film was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted January 16, 2011 Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2011 I watched it a year ago - SCARY! If you do want help in deconverting - definitely watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPhoenix Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 saw it a couple of years ago. Yeah...scary shit. If anybody wondered if religious militants could arise in the US, then they never watched this movie. These are our future terrorists. Ted Haggart in the Moive was arrested on drug and male prostitution charges shortly after the film was made. Yeah, good old Ted. I thought that was him. Fucking hilarious seeing as they show him denouncing homosexuality. Damn hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering_Cookie Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Saw that a couple months ago. I was shaking, nearly in tears, remembering my elementary school days at an evangelical school, wednesday chapel, crying my eyes out telling jesus I was sorry for not spreading the gospel more. I hate that the robbing of youth still goes on, praised again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Атеист Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yeah I watched this a few years back...during my de-conversion now that I think about it. I was never part of something that weird, but I had friends who went to those sorts of churches. Scares the jesus-out-a-me still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeboh Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 The people at this camp are absolutely sick. Levi seemed like a pretty okay guy, poor kid. What scared me was when Ted Haggard said, "If (Evangelicals) vote, we decide the election." Great documentary, I recommend watching it however painful it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flockoff Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 At one point the lady that runs the camp had the kids in the pews and was telling them she KNEW that some of them were liars and hypocrites. She KNEW that they used bad language at school and only acted like Christians on Sunday. She told them they better come up and get cleansed. These poor kids were crying and begging gawd to forgive them for being KIDS for fucks sake. It made me sick to my stomach. Do I remember correctly from that speech that she was calling them out on eating junk food? Where the Jesus McFuck does she get off doing that when she herself must weigh at least 300 lbs?! The most telling part was at the end where she was on that guy's radio show, and when he tried to get her to admit to brainwashing these kids because they're too young to have a real choice, says something to the effect of "I don't think these kids are old enough for ANYTHING they do to be a choice." And that's it right there. I can at least forgive the people who brainwashed me with the "heart was in the right place" card. Not her. Bitch knows exactly what she was/is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherJosh Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 And that's it right there. I can at least forgive the people who brainwashed me with the "heart was in the right place" card. Not her. Bitch knows exactly what she was/is doing. Of course she does! I would hazard a guess that many, many Christians know exactly what they are doing too, though some may "have their heart in the right place." All that talk of winning back the country for Jesus I consider a serious threat. Not saying I'm going to have a Jesus tank rolling down my street, but these people will resort to any manner of tactic in order to further their agenda. They'll bitch and complain about the "activist" judges when it comes to gay rights, but will actively pursue getting Creationism taught in public schools through a judicial process. Brain washing kids is not above someone who literally feels they are beset on all sides by homosexuals, atheists and Muslims. Just look at any of the youth programs in place at a random church in your community. They'll go have ski trips, basketball games, summer camps, movie nights etc... They are basically equating in these kid's minds the good feelings of these activities with Christianity. It's the same as someone who feels good about McDonald's because they remember playing in the ball pit as a child and getting a toy in their Happy Meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babylonian Dream Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I saw it. If you take away the holy water, the speaking in tongues, and keep in the rhetoric, It looks very similar to the church I went to. Those poor kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagickMonkey Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yeah I watched this a few years back...during my de-conversion now that I think about it. I was never part of something that weird, but I had friends who went to those sorts of churches. Scares the jesus-out-a-me still. I also didn't go to a church that far out as a kid, but I did feel guilty for not being a good enough christian a lot of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpheliaGinger Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This is probably the only film I can honestly say that scared me, and I'm one of those people who live, eat, breathe, and shit horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagickMonkey Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This is probably the only film I can honestly say that scared me, and I'm one of those people who live, eat, breathe, and shit horror. Sometimes, when I eat some rotten bananas, I shit horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryper Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 This is probably the only film I can honestly say that scared me, and I'm one of those people who live, eat, breathe, and shit horror. Sometimes, when I eat some rotten bananas, I shit horror. :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamaroGuy Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 That movie was sad and creepy. I like the Pentecostal scene in Borat better. Much more light hearted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagickMonkey Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 That movie was sad and creepy. I like the Pentecostal scene in Borat better. Much more light hearted Borat was fucking hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosendarkness Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I've known about it but never wanted to watch it. It's more for people to learn about western fundies. I already seen it and still a part of it indirectly. I saw it not too long ago at someone's house. A mother is brainwashing her child into Christian fundamentalism. On the CD being played daily, the children sing about armies of the lord and destroying his enemies. They sing 'we are RIGHT!' The child is defenseless, no one to protect him from it. Even if he decides against it later in life, it won't be easy to escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted January 17, 2011 Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2011 This is probably the only film I can honestly say that scared me, and I'm one of those people who live, eat, breathe, and shit horror. Sometimes, when I eat some rotten bananas, I shit horror. 'monkey' - you are so bad! LOVE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Anyone seen this documentary? I have it sitting on my hdd since many months ago. I once started watching it and didn't make it past some 15 minutes or so, stopped because I felt the urge to lose my lunch becoming too overpowering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droptail Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I have tried watching it before and just can't get past the first scene where the lady preaches all kinds of ridiculous to the kids gathered in that meeting hall. I never had any traumatizing experiences like that thankfully...but it's still too frustrating to watch because I can empathize with those who are being brainwashed like I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vomit Comet Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Is it child abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosendarkness Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Is it child abuse? If you can provide evidence that it has resulted in damage to the child, then yes it is a case of child abuse. Basically we have to start looking at it from a legal perspective, and hopefully more people will start taking action and that will change how the world views fundamentalist indoctrination. We know how terrible it is, we just have to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourDogBrewing Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yeah I watched it awhile back as well. Really scary, in fact I created a thread on it too! lol The part I disliked most was the child "preacher" ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpheliaGinger Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Is it child abuse? If you can provide evidence that it has resulted in damage to the child, then yes it is a case of child abuse. Basically we have to start looking at it from a legal perspective, and hopefully more people will start taking action and that will change how the world views fundamentalist indoctrination. We know how terrible it is, we just have to prove it. It's only not considered child abuse if it is embraced by the majority. If this were a Muhammad camp in America, the administrators would be investigated for child abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Saw this Documentary Last year and it scared the living Daylights out of me. Up to then I still considered Maybe sending my child to Sunday school so she could make her own choices but after that No fucking Ways!!! To me there is no better illustration of Evil than so blatantly refusing another human being ( especially a child) Choice in his/ her life. I honestly see it as a form of child abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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