Do U All View Prostitution As Ok?

[Guest Yakuza]

I have been having women trouble for a long time. It seems as though no matter how hard I try 2 be a good guy, I always end up in a bad relationship. And now that I have been laid off from a good job and have had to settle for a somewhat ok paying job, the challenge to find a girlfriend has increased. So I have basically given up on trying to find a girlfriend and have accepted the fact that prostitutes will be my only access to girls. Growing up, I heard a lot in church about how prostitutes are evil, but as I got older I saw the world for what it really is. And one of those realities are that a lot of women care more about a man's financial status than they do his personal character. Actually I respect prostitutes for keeping it real.

 

While I do believe in God, I don't believe all of the Bible. I thought I'd just give u some biblical verses for entertainment because I don't see how they make sense. I know I Corinthians 6:15-20, Leviticus 21:7 and some other verses preach against prostitution, but u also have 2 remember that God allowed people to commit certain acts if the situation calls for it. Such as when God told Abraham and Sarah to lie. God has commanded people to kill. In Luke 19:32-34 Jesus commanded his followers to steal a donkey.

 

Also as far as modern day society goes, getting a girlfriend is very hard if u are not on a certain economic level. The truth is that a lot of women judge a man mostly by how much money he has and his material possessions. So considering that I only make around $850-$900 a month and I don't have a car, I am not able to catch the interests of a lot of women. So in a sense, u can say that a lot of women are prostitutes, even though they don't walk the streets or advertise themselves online.

 

I only deal with prostitutes that keep themselves up and are not drug attics. I also manage my money right when buying a girl. I save up enough money every few weeks or every other month and then buy a woman when I know it won't financially hurt me. And keep in mind every man deserves some pleasure from a woman. It is not good for a man to be lonely. Being without the company of a woman can drive a man insane.

 

So I would like 2 know your input. When responding, keep in mind these main issues:

 

) Its hard to get a girlfriend if u are not making a lot of money

 

) Would God really want me to settle for being lonely or would He be ok if prostitutes are my only option?

 

) And I respect women, prostitute or not

[foolish girl]

And keep in mind every man deserves some pleasure from a woman. It is not good for a man to be lonely. Being without the company of a woman can drive a man insane.

 

So I would like 2 know your input. When responding, keep in mind these main issues:

 

) Its hard to get a girlfriend if u are not making a lot of money

 

) Would God really want me to settle for being lonely or would He be ok if prostitutes are my only option?

 

) And I respect women, prostitute or not

 

ummmmm, yakuza

 

I understand a man has needs, but I disagree that every man DESERVES pleasure from a woman.

I understand "want", "yern", whatever...some men like other men (it should be noted)

ANYWAY,

GOD is not real. And if he IS real, then he wants you to listen to proverbs and believe that the evil filthy woman is lying in readiness to destroy your soul...or some shit.

It isn't about God. It is about your carnal desires.

 

The prostitution debate is significant and I am not prepared to take sides.

 

i say, look at a movie, satisfy yourself...improve your circumstance and build a relationship naturally.

 

But that is my opinion.

GOD would say, DON'T satisfy yourself and DON'T seek a woman, and it is OKAY to have slaves....I know it is random...but HE said it- not me!

[LivingLife]

Wow!

 

So all women are prostitutes in your mind? With that attitude you will never get laid for free.

 

Women will seek out financially stable men to ensure her offspring will be taken care of. That however is not the Alpha and Omega. If you want women that resemble starlets and you are an average joe, then perhaps your sights are set too high.

 

Women in general are not into the financial side too early and if all you project is wanting to get laid, they pick up on this. Women need to feel safe and secure with a man and that secure is not always money related.

 

Hell, when I was a youth, I never earned anything close to what you state and I had no problems getting laid or getting girlfriends so money is not the real issue here.

 

Maybe if you have a personality, you should try working on exposing that first, the other shit comes naturally but if you want to get your end away on the first date, that may be the problem. This is called developing a relationship. You do not have to wine and dine all the ladies. Do group stuff, women feel more secure in groups when meeting someone new, hang out as friends, if there is an attraction somewhere it will happen, then you can maybe go on a date. Hell I used to take them ice skating, just go to the local roadhouse and enjoy a burger, go to the park, simple cheap stuff.

 

If you cannot be a companion to a lady, she ain't gonna spread her legs for you.

 

Maybe you need to re-evaluate your priorities.

 

Apologies to the ladies for the crass approach here.

 

Lastly, if paying for it and getting it, your outlook on a future Mrs Yakusa, you may treat her no different to a prostitute even though you say you respect them.

[Overcame Faith]

Prostitutes offer sex and not a relationship. Women, on the other hand, offer a relationship which, if the relationship goes well, includes sex. A prostitute is no substitute unless all you want is sex.

 

As far as the morality of having sex with a prostitute, with one exception, I don't judge on this issue. That exception is that the prostitute absolutely must be an adult and it is your responsibility to ensure she is. There are no exceptions to this. None.

[oddbird1963]

If you can afford a prostitute and won't compulsively spend money in pay for sex transactions to where other obligations are neglected, then the individual act of sex with a prostitute is not a real moral issue.

 

But when you think of the exploitative aspects of prostitution - drug addiction, human trafficking and the socio-economic circumstances of those who find themselves in the business of being a sex worker, the moral standing of prostitution is much less clear cut. It's hard to think of prostitution simply in terms of the sex for pay transaction. It is a matter of what human beings will do to other human beings so individual men can get their jollies.

 

I think morally you are in a better position to avoid prostitution and work through counseling or other means to find ways to improve social interactions with the opposite sex.

 

Oh. And then there's the whole it's illegal thing, unless you live in Nevada where it is legal and regulated.

[hereticzero]

Would God really want me to settle for being lonely or would He be ok if prostitutes are my only option?

If prostitution were legalized there may be ways to lessen the chances of contracting AIDS or HIV infection, such as keeping current health records available for prostitutes. Since many of them do not care what they pass along so long as they get enough money to buy crack, I would not venture into prostitution. I know women who have married ugly and poor men because they loved them. So you can be ugly and poor and still attract a good woman. Who cares what god likes?

 

I realize you are new here and this is your first post but you come across as a Christian Troll. You ask us specifics of what god would want and this is a board for ex-Christians so I don't believe you are legit. Convince me. Otherwise, you may want to take this question to a forum that supports belief in god.

[hereticzero]

Oh. And then there's the whole it's illegal thing, unless you live in Nevada where it is legal and regulated.

There are only specific counties in Nevada where prostitution is legal. It is not legal in all jurisdictions, including Las Vegas.

[foolish girl]

If you can afford a prostitute and won't compulsively spend money in pay for sex transactions to where other obligations are neglected, then the individual act of sex with a prostitute is not a real moral issue.

 

But when you think of the exploitative aspects of prostitution - drug addiction, human trafficking and the socio-economic circumstances of those who find themselves in the business of being a sex worker, the moral standing of prostitution is much less clear cut. It's hard to think of prostitution simply in terms of the sex for pay transaction. It is a matter of what human beings will do to other human beings so individual men can get their jollies.

 

I think morally you are in a better position to avoid prostitution and work through counseling or other means to find ways to improve social interactions with the opposite sex.

 

Oh. And then there's the whole it's illegal thing, unless you live in Nevada where it is legal and regulated.

 

Indeed, bird....Indeed.

[foolish girl]

 

 

I realize you are new here and this is your first post but you come across as a Christian Troll. You ask us specifics of what god would want and this is a board for ex-Christians so I don't believe you are legit. Convince me. Otherwise, you may want to take this question to a forum that supports belief in god.

 

I kind of thought this too, but it seems like every other day we are suspecting trolls, so I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the social awkwardness that makes it hard to "get a woman" comes across as "Troll" here....?

At any rate, yakuza, I think you should listen to these boys and expand your view of a woman. We can tell when you only want a piece of ass.

[foolish girl]

gosh.

We ex-christians are disgusting filthy people without God, aren't we? See how all the boys say "RIGHT ON! BANG A HO!"...and all the girls are like "DO ME! I NEED THE CASH!!"....?

 

It is like that everyday around here, lol.....

 

I loves my ex-c bitches.

[Margee]

Would God really want me to settle for being lonely or would He be ok if prostitutes are my only option?

If prostitution were legalized there may be ways to lessen the chances of contracting AIDS or HIV infection, such as keeping current health records available for prostitutes. Since many of them do not care what they pass along so long as they get enough money to buy crack, I would not venture into prostitution. I know women who have married ugly and poor men because they loved them. So you can be ugly and poor and still attract a good woman. Who cares what god likes?

 

I realize you are new here and this is your first post but you come across as a Christian Troll. You ask us specifics of what god would want and this is a board for ex-Christians so I don't believe you are legit. Convince me. Otherwise, you may want to take this question to a forum that supports belief in god.

 

This is why I haven't responded! You guys have taught me well what to watch for! I'll wait.....................

[oddbird1963]

Oh. And then there's the whole it's illegal thing, unless you live in Nevada where it is legal and regulated.

There are only specific counties in Nevada where prostitution is legal. It is not legal in all jurisdictions, including Las Vegas.

Thanks for that clarification, HZ. Also, it's a great travel tip!

[stryper]

Yakuza,

 

/OPEN RANT

I am normal a pretty tolerant guy, but I don't believe you actually posted this.

 

First) your name is of the japanese mafia.

 

Second) you calim a belief in God but not in all the bible.

 

Third) You post this in the Ex-christian Life section. Instead of in the more appropriate protected section.

 

Fourth) You refer to all women as prostitutes.

 

My opinion is that you a troll. How could you possibily think you actions would be condoned here, except for the title of the site? Oh these guys don't believe in christianity so they must think this is ok.

 

You blatantly talking about participating in an illeagal act in 98% of the US and in Canada, Austrailia, New Zealand, and most of Europe where most of the site's member ship is from. And then ask our advice on it. Did you think about that? You just treaded a very fine line of legality and by posting here endangered the entrie community. The website owner could be caused hard ship by this and it could end this site which many on here love dearly.

 

Furthermore while I appreciate the irony of bible verses in your post. It also causes me to think you are a troll.

 

/CLOSE RANT

 

To more directly address your questions. Prostitution is manipluative and abusive pratice. There are call girls and escorts that are paid much better, but that doesn't change the fact that by paying for the sex you are adding to the abuse. Prostitution has many levels but it still comes down to the belief that men have sexual rights to women, which is in the bible.

 

Porn and webgirls face similar issues. However, in those cases, many are there by choice. They enjoy the work, and in a camgirls case she can simple ban any one who is abusive. Ironically many men on those sites will come to the girl's defense. So they generally have more control and are supported in their choice of career.

 

If you want to attract women, then you have to be attracted to more then their reproductive parts. If you can't hang out and have coffee with them, then they're not going to be interested in you.

 

Get life, and a theripist....its obvious you need both.

[RedDogTolstoy]

All I have to do is look at modern American business, government, education, military, culture and religion.

 

Prostitution is obviously OK with all them, so who am I to argue?

[Margee]

Yakuza,

 

/OPEN RANT

I am normal a pretty tolerant guy, but I don't believe you actually posted this.

 

First) your name is of the japanese mafia.

 

Second) you calim a belief in God but not in all the bible.

 

Third) You post this in the Ex-christian Life section. Instead of in the more appropriate protected section.

 

Fourth) You refer to all women as prostitutes.

 

My opinion is that you a troll. How could you possibily think you actions would be condoned here, except for the title of the site? Oh these guys don't believe in christianity so they must think this is ok.

 

You blatantly talking about participating in an illeagal act in 98% of the US and in Canada, Austrailia, New Zealand, and most of Europe where most of the site's member ship is from. And then ask our advice on it. Did you think about that? You just treaded a very fine line of legality and by posting here endangered the entrie community. The website owner could be caused hard ship by this and it could end this site which many on here love dearly.

 

Furthermore while I appreciate the irony of bible verses in your post. It also causes me to think you are a troll.

 

/CLOSE RANT

 

To more directly address your questions. Prostitution is manipluative and abusive pratice. There are call girls and escorts that are paid much better, but that doesn't change the fact that by paying for the sex you are adding to the abuse. Prostitution has many levels but it still comes down to the belief that men have sexual rights to women, which is in the bible.

 

Porn and webgirls face similar issues. However, in those cases, many are there by choice. They enjoy the work, and in a camgirls case she can simple ban any one who is abusive. Ironically many men on those sites will come to the girl's defense. So they generally have more control and are supported in their choice of career.

 

If you want to attract women, then you have to be attracted to more then their reproductive parts. If you can't hang out and have coffee with them, then they're not going to be interested in you.

 

Get life, and a theripist....its obvious you need both.

 

WOW STRYPER! Good stuff - Now I don't have to respond! Thanks! ditto,ditto,ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto......................

 

 

[Kyle]

Well said stryper

[Guest I Love Dog]

As an avowed and long term atheist I suggest that your attitude towards women and sex is highly suspect.

 

To me, the sexual act is a culmination of love, respect, admiration for a person, a bonding, a joining; not a release of hormonal build-up.

 

It's something that is special, not to be purchased, not to be found on a street corner or in the back seat of a car.

 

If it's not true love, then use your hand. It's cheaper, safer, and just as emotionality rewarding as the prostitute.

[florduh]

Hard to believe he's still single.

[Legion]

Yakuza I think you are worthy of human connection. But as to whether or not you deserve sex, that is for her to decide. Thus is the way of things.

[LivingLife]

Good Post Stryper

 

I kinda like to give folk the benefit of the doubt but like foolish girl said, being an ex-C we are just all here in one big orgy - NOT!

 

Do you gusy see all those yellow things in his post, well I clicked on one before responding and while responding my PC went apeshit launching 7 instance of Excel, then Powerpoint and I could not close them quick enough, I have an extended keyboard that calls Office apps so I thought maybe I had done something, I had to reboot.

 

Just weird there are so many lil pics in his post

[buffettphan]

You need a major attitude adjustment. If you want to attract women, you need to work on developing a more attractive personality yourself. All/most women are prostitutes? No wonder you're alone.

[buffettphan]

 

Do you gusy see all those yellow things in his post, well I clicked on one before responding and while responding my PC went apeshit launching 7 instance of Excel, then Powerpoint and I could not close them quick enough, I have an extended keyboard that calls Office apps so I thought maybe I had done something, I had to reboot.

 

Just weird there are so many lil pics in his post

 

 

Thanks for the warning. I had noticed those things also but was too chicken to click them.

 

 

[Legion]

Well I mean just biologically speaking here... I think women a hardwired to be attracted to those men who 1) have good genes, which is assessed by the phenotype of men, and 2) have the resources necessary to contribute to child rearing.

[stryper]

the lightbubles have this behind them

 

 

<img src='http://script.clickbubbles.net/res/img/icons/underlined.png?1' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' />

 

 

So, it appears we have a troll hacker. Nice.

 

MOD!!!!

[hereticzero]

I did not click the lightbulbs but I figured he was a troll from his question he left. Be very careful as there is a trojan out there I posted on a different thread. Anything that does not look familiar, do not click on it! I've been at this internet game since 1979 and I know a spybot when I see one!