Greatest I am Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 If God had a father, would He be ashamed of his Son? Just to make sure you understand the premise. I am asking that we consider a Grand Father to Jesus type of God the Father who would be father to God the Father. Grandfather God the father to God the father of Son/Jesus. Son, look what you have wrought? I gave you a perfect start and universe to mold to a more perfect state and you have let it deteriorate to where most people see imperfection. What have you done to our family name for God’s sake? Couple that with the fact that God has been labeled, with evidence, as jealous and proud of it, a petty tyrant, unjust, unforgiving, immoral, a control freak, racist, sexist, chauvinistic, vindictive, ethnic cleanser, misogynistic, homophobic, infanticide, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniac and other undesirable character traits and one could build a case that says that God is a God sized A hole. To me, one of his most disturbing traits is being a total coward by not having the balls to step up himself for the hard task of sacrifice, but instead, sending his young son to die in his stead. Any mother or father would be more responsible than this in our human culture. Most of us believe that we are to bury our fathers and are incensed with the thought of burying our sons. Take a bow human mothers and fathers and denounce the genocidal coward we call God. If not, why do you support his religion and promote his policies. That is insane as the women shown in this clip and her husband who sits back and let’s her. http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/08/minnesota.catholic.gay.marriage/index.html?eref=rss_latest&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+Most+Recent%29# I can appreciate the benefits of faith, spirituality and religiosity and recognize the good churches bring to community but surely to God, we should only support churches that preach a common good and not the exclusionary churches who preach the God described above. People are beginning to change but to me, not quickly enough. Here is an example of inclusive churches against exclusive churches who discriminate without just cause. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqwBDVeVTM "First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946) If you were God’s father, would you be proud of your son? Regards DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest I Love Dog Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 If God had a father, would He be ashamed of his Son? As I understand it, Yahweh/Jehovah/Christian god DID have a father. El/Baal was his father. One of the many Canaanite/Hebrew gods. Yahweh, being a storm god was bound to act the way he did. Angry, sending down bolts of lightning, causing death and destruction. You can't expect much love from a storm god. There must have been some nicer gods to choose as being "the one true" god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest I am Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 If God had a father, would He be ashamed of his Son? As I understand it, Yahweh/Jehovah/Christian god DID have a father. El/Baal was his father. One of the many Canaanite/Hebrew gods. Yahweh, being a storm god was bound to act the way he did. Angry, sending down bolts of lightning, causing death and destruction. You can't expect much love from a storm god. There must have been some nicer gods to choose as being "the one true" god. Yet barbaric man did not and theist today just keep on a following the genocidal one. Go figure. Regards DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpheliaGinger Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Entertaining the idea that Yahweh did not derive from any other god or pantheon of gods, there is the old saying, "Like father like son," or, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree." If we were to analyze Yahweh as if he were human, it would not be too far off of a speculation that his father was just the same, and his jealousies and wrathfulness were learned in his home environment; I would even venture to say that his father would have been abusive to a wife/partner and other females. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted February 15, 2011 Moderator Share Posted February 15, 2011 WOW! Love those you tube stories! I don't have time to post right now - be back later! WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shion Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If god had a father, he should have followed through with infanticide. And if he had a 'Father/Mother' then its morality cannot have been any better. If I had a child whose one amusement in existence was the torture of lesser beings I would slay that child myself. I would make an example of this (if there were other beings) regardless of the grief it might cause me. But all of this is fantasy, since there is no god. He was always a metaphor and I wish more 'prophets' would come down from the mountains and proclaim him dead. For at least Darth Vader had a legitimate reason to fell anguish, despair, and malice. At least Sauron had a purpose. Palpatine had an end goal. What does Yahweh have other than greed and tantrums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest I am Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Entertaining the idea that Yahweh did not derive from any other god or pantheon of gods, there is the old saying, "Like father like son," or, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree." If we were to analyze Yahweh as if he were human, it would not be too far off of a speculation that his father was just the same, and his jealousies and wrathfulness were learned in his home environment; I would even venture to say that his father would have been abusive to a wife/partner and other females. I can only admire good logic. Regards DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest I am Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 If god had a father, he should have followed through with infanticide. And if he had a 'Father/Mother' then its morality cannot have been any better. If I had a child whose one amusement in existence was the torture of lesser beings I would slay that child myself. I would make an example of this (if there were other beings) regardless of the grief it might cause me. But all of this is fantasy, since there is no god. He was always a metaphor and I wish more 'prophets' would come down from the mountains and proclaim him dead. For at least Darth Vader had a legitimate reason to fell anguish, despair, and malice. At least Sauron had a purpose. Palpatine had an end goal. What does Yahweh have other than greed and tantrums? The word and title of God has always been more than a metaphor. That word has been twisted and deformed into many meanings. I think it should have stayed in the realm of myth though and only became ugly when literalists and fundamentals began to think it was a real someone or entity. The Romans emperors had the right idea in naming themselves God and bringing that word down to earth. So to speak. If God is power of some sort. Man should recognize that he is the greatest power on this earth. The ancients, before stupid literalists, had it right in having God give man dominion here. Regards DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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