Ouroboros Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Damn Florduh, you're on a roll. It's a gift. I am only a tool. (Please, no +1 just because I said I was a tool.) +1 because you said "Please." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 “A mature person is one who does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals charitably” - Eleanor Roosevelt I have to agree with Mrs. R. The immature are ruled by emotion, maturity calls for rational response. You are slipping House....."ruled" and "rational" would be key words here. It's ok, you are probably not getting enough fiber....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanta Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The New Humanism, a short NYTimes opinion piece talks about just this subject. I think you'll like it, Ed. With equipoise, Phanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galien Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The New Humanism, a short NYTimes opinion piece talks about just this subject. I think you'll like it, Ed. With equipoise, Phanta Good stuff Phanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanta Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The New Humanism, a short NYTimes opinion piece talks about just this subject. I think you'll like it, Ed. With equipoise, Phanta Good stuff Phanta I'm glad you liked it. Legion will, too. YOU HEAR THAT, LEGION? This is a read for you, too, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddbird1963 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The New Humanism, a short NYTimes opinion piece talks about just this subject. I think you'll like it, Ed. With equipoise, Phanta That is a good article. I do think anyone who has watched Star Trek is familiar with the struggle to come to an understanding of the relationship between reason and emotions. The author made this puzzling statement which I'm not sure how to interpret. our emotions assign value to things and are the basis of reason. I'm not sure what he means by this. Is he saying that emotions are the motivation to start the reasoning process? Is he saying that we reason because we feel? It would be nice to hear some other interpretations of this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanta Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 our emotions assign value to things and are the basis of reason. I'm not sure what he means by this. Is he saying that emotions are the motivation to start the reasoning process? Is he saying that we reason because we feel? It would be nice to hear some other interpretations of this statement. I noticed that too, and had to pause and think about it. Here is what I decided. I think he is saying that our emotional reactions to things determine our values. Our values determine how we reason through complex issues. Does that make sense? If that's what he's trying to say, I'm not sure I agree that our emotions determine our values. I think they are one type of input that informs our value system...but it seems like an oversimplification. Don't our values also temper or otherwise influence our emotions? It seems to me like it is a co-creative process. What do you think? Phanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddbird1963 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 yes. I don't think emotions and reason are necessarily opposites. I like the phrase "co-creative process." It indicates a dynamic system in which our rational and emotional processes interact. The ability to think through issues, to step outside of the moment and think your way out of anger, fear, or dismay contributes to ones general maturity. I don't know if that is what the author meant. He really should have gone into that aspect a little bit deeper or left it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanta Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 yes. I don't think emotions and reason are necessarily opposites. I like the phrase "co-creative process." It indicates a dynamic system in which our rational and emotional processes interact. The ability to think through issues, to step outside of the moment and think your way out of anger, fear, or dismay contributes to ones general maturity. Yeah. And maturity also does not ignore emotions. As per usual, people are complicated. I don't know if that is what the author meant. He really should have gone into that aspect a little bit deeper or left it out. Yeah. He is unclear. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 yes. I don't think emotions and reason are necessarily opposites. I like the phrase "co-creative process." It indicates a dynamic system in which our rational and emotional processes interact. The ability to think through issues, to step outside of the moment and think your way out of anger, fear, or dismay contributes to ones general maturity. Yeah. And maturity also does not ignore emotions. As per usual, people are complicated. I don't know if that is what the author meant. He really should have gone into that aspect a little bit deeper or left it out. Yeah. He is unclear. P I actually went and read it. Thanks for the link. Hit me as insightful, but will have to re-read and ponder. Thx again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsy79 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thanks for that article, Phanta. I really want to share it with my father since he sometimes doesn't understand why I try so hard to understand others' viewpoints (and often is irritated by it), but am afraid he will use it against me since I'm always saying we should try to be logical. Maybe I am being immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanta Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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