Akheia Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 It's such a strange image, isn't it? Basically the only acceptable martyr's image. No one would carve a sand image of Dr King being shot, with a message, "thank you Martin". Well said and an interesting point. I don't know how y'all look at MLK across the pond, but if someone actually did that, I think it'd touch off a race riot. I'm white and even I think that'd be hugely disrespectful and morbid and weird and hugely open to misinterpretation. Portraying someone like MLK like that doesn't even occur to people--if MLK is represented in art, it's almost always a portrait of him in life, speaking and being awesome. We don't represent him dead. But apparently a crucified Jesus is A-OK! The cognitive dissonance is just staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'm not really a believer in "the good old days," but this is the best post that I have seen from a fundy friend on FB: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=550154135009477&set=vb.100000446875683&type=2&theater The past always looks better because, well there's nothing you need to do about it and you already know what happened. The present is scary because you're living in it right now... you have to deal with it.... and you dont know the outcome, which can be scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 It's such a strange image, isn't it? Basically the only acceptable martyr's image. No one would carve a sand image of Dr King being shot, with a message, "thank you Martin". Well said and an interesting point. I don't know how y'all look at MLK across the pond, but if someone actually did that, I think it'd touch off a race riot. I'm white and even I think that'd be hugely disrespectful and morbid and weird and hugely open to misinterpretation. Portraying someone like MLK like that doesn't even occur to people--if MLK is represented in art, it's almost always a portrait of him in life, speaking and being awesome. We don't represent him dead. But apparently a crucified Jesus is A-OK! The cognitive dissonance is just staggering. The Pentecostals I knew always hated that the Catholics tended to depict Christ on the cross in their churches. "But he's not on the cross anymore! He is risen and is now in heaven!" they would whine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akheia Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 LOVED that link! Thanks, TF! I still remember reading about a black man who asked, "Who were these 'good old days' good for, exactly?" with the clear implication that there were vast swathes of people who certainly did NOT find those days very good: women, minorities, the childfree, non-Christians, GLBTQA people, you name it. Pretty much the only people who really think they would love those "good old days" back are people who are either straight (or closeted) white religious cis-men or those who buy into that group's dominance. Republicans and conservatives and fundie Christians (a group with huge overlaps) pine and wish for these "good old days," but that just shows how ignorant they are of how awful those days were for so many people. It's chilling how little such people understand about just what they're pining for, just what the effects would be of getting what they want. That said, wow that's an awesome speech. Did anybody else notice the awesome dude behind Sorority Girl laughing his rear end off midway through the clip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akheia Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 It's such a strange image, isn't it? Basically the only acceptable martyr's image. No one would carve a sand image of Dr King being shot, with a message, "thank you Martin". Well said and an interesting point. I don't know how y'all look at MLK across the pond, but if someone actually did that, I think it'd touch off a race riot. I'm white and even I think that'd be hugely disrespectful and morbid and weird and hugely open to misinterpretation. Portraying someone like MLK like that doesn't even occur to people--if MLK is represented in art, it's almost always a portrait of him in life, speaking and being awesome. We don't represent him dead. But apparently a crucified Jesus is A-OK! The cognitive dissonance is just staggering. The Pentecostals I knew always hated that the Catholics tended to depict Christ on the cross in their churches. "But he's not on the cross anymore! He is risen and is now in heaven!" they would whine. That's what my Pentecostal group said too. Being ex-Catholic and from an extended family full of priests and nuns, I didn't have the heart to tell them why Catholics get so hung up on the crucified image. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquareOne Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The Pentecostals I knew always hated that the Catholics tended to depict Christ on the cross in their churches. "But he's not on the cross anymore! He is risen and is now in heaven!" they would whine. Near me there is a Catholic church. Outside, there is a ten-foot crucifix with a three-foot Jesus hanging up on the cross. When I was a child, I remember it was just a dark metal colour, cast iron or something like that. About ten years ago, the church decided to paint it. The colour scheme? White Jesus. Pasty white in fact. Englishman white, essentially. But more importantly - no blood! Why do we not tend to see blood on the crucifix images? Perhaps the idea of Jesus being viscerally portrayed as subject to messy, bloody torture is too sickening for Christians to comprehend. ... as though seeing a human nailed to a cross isn't sickening to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted February 11, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2013 OMFG http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579691_334000973385466_1522981504_n.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I want to put one up in response to that, TrueFreedom: Bible: A rabbit chews its cud Science Then: WTF, Bible? Science Now: WTF, Bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquareOne Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 From a facebook post: Hey everyone! Had a great show in XXXXXX tonight. But somewhere between there and the Travelodge misplaced my phone. Please could you say a quick prayer I'd get it back? I'd love to get it back :-) What typical bullshit. Why do Christians think God is going to find their phone for them, if he does shit to stop, oh I don't know - AIDS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted February 11, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2013 I want to put one up in response to that, TrueFreedom: Bible: A rabbit chews its cud Science Then: WTF, Bible? Science Now: WTF, Bible? It's tempting to list a few of those. No telling who it could out me to though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thackerie Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It's such a strange image, isn't it? Basically the only acceptable martyr's image. No one would carve a sand image of Dr King being shot, with a message, "thank you Martin". Well said and an interesting point. I don't know how y'all look at MLK across the pond, but if someone actually did that, I think it'd touch off a race riot. I'm white and even I think that'd be hugely disrespectful and morbid and weird and hugely open to misinterpretation. Portraying someone like MLK like that doesn't even occur to people--if MLK is represented in art, it's almost always a portrait of him in life, speaking and being awesome. We don't represent him dead. But apparently a crucified Jesus is A-OK! The cognitive dissonance is just staggering. The Pentecostals I knew always hated that the Catholics tended to depict Christ on the cross in their churches. "But he's not on the cross anymore! He is risen and is now in heaven!" they would whine. That's what my Pentecostal group said too. Being ex-Catholic and from an extended family full of priests and nuns, I didn't have the heart to tell them why Catholics get so hung up on the crucified image. It's not only Pentacostals who hold that view. I heard the same thing in an Evangelical Methodist church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 That's what my Pentecostal group said too. Being ex-Catholic and from an extended family full of priests and nuns, I didn't have the heart to tell them why Catholics get so hung up on the crucified image. Okay, I'm a little slow. I just got this joke now. Assuming it was a joke, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantophobia Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I want to put one up in response to that, TrueFreedom: Bible: A rabbit chews its cud Science Then: WTF, Bible? Science Now: WTF, Bible? It's tempting to list a few of those. No telling who it could out me to though... Bible: The firmament of heavens is a physical "roof" on top of the earth. Science Then: Let's question things to determine possible answers. Science Now: Let's question things to determine possible answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 OMFG http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579691_334000973385466_1522981504_n.jpg I learned about Octal, Binary and Hexadecimal in the Book of Numbers. haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk0606 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I hate the vapid, vacuous, treacly, (where's my thesaurus - I need more words) shallow, superficial, cliched sayings that pass for "inspiring wisdom". So how does this apply to those who have had a spouse, a child, their health, etc., - taken away?? I used to believe shit like this and then I had to watch my son die slowly over 7 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annier Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I hate the vapid, vacuous, treacly, (where's my thesaurus - I need more words) shallow, superficial, cliched sayings that pass for "inspiring wisdom". So how does this apply to those who have had a spouse, a child, their health, etc., - taken away?? I used to believe shit like this and then I had to watch my son die slowly over 7 days. Words like those are supposed to diminish the pains of grief, so that you won't blame the god. But they could only repress it, when it should be felt. And when you can't repress it, then you would take the blame for not accepting the words, and the so-called love of the god. I'm not sure if I've been adequate in what I am trying to say. I sympathise with you, SK. I understand. (((HUGS))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akheia Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I hate the vapid, vacuous, treacly, (where's my thesaurus - I need more words) shallow, superficial, cliched sayings that pass for "inspiring wisdom". So how does this apply to those who have had a spouse, a child, their health, etc., - taken away?? I used to believe shit like this and then I had to watch my son die slowly over 7 days. Oh my gosh I'm so sorry to hear that. Holy shit. My condolences. I hope you're doing better now. I can definitely see why glurge like that would get your blood boiling! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I used to believe shit like this and then I had to watch my son die slowly over 7 days. So sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msipsy218 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I hate the vapid, vacuous, treacly, (where's my thesaurus - I need more words) shallow, superficial, cliched sayings that pass for "inspiring wisdom". So how does this apply to those who have had a spouse, a child, their health, etc., - taken away?? I used to believe shit like this and then I had to watch my son die slowly over 7 days. How completely heartbreaking. I'm so sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msipsy218 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Yes, because the supernatural creature that you believe controls an army of millions of demons, powerful enough to try to overtake the throne of who you believe to be the creator of the universe is scared of a dumbass christian in her nightgown waving her fucking bible. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquareOne Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 A more accurate message, brought to you be SquareOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantophobia Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I hate the vapid, vacuous, treacly, (where's my thesaurus - I need more words) shallow, superficial, cliched sayings that pass for "inspiring wisdom". So how does this apply to those who have had a spouse, a child, their health, etc., - taken away?? I used to believe shit like this and then I had to watch my son die slowly over 7 days. How completely heartbreaking. I'm so sorry Proof that Christian rhetoric is inhumane and abusive. I'm so sorry you experienced this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thackerie Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Cause nothing says "Happy Valentine's Day" like hearts, flowers, a teddy bear, and a bleeding corpse. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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