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What's bad about this? If it's true it is evidence that the Bible story isn't true and was based on much older folklore stolen from another culture.

 

I think FB post used the story to defend the historicity of the ark story.  I don't remember now.  Obscure post fail.

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These Godtube posts. If all of the suffering people in the world would just come to God he would solve all hunger, disease and violence.

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Got this in an E-mail. The pot calling the kettle black...

 

 

No name calling, no hatred, no politcal agenda. 
Long but well worth the read.....
 
CANADIAN COMMENT APPEARS AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE AND IS MEANINGFUL. THERE IS ALSO SOME RECENTLY ADDED BRITISH COMMENT.
 
This pilot hit the nail right on the head in his open letter.

A newspaper stated that some Muslim doctor is saying we are profiling him because he has been checked three times while getting on an airplane.The following is a letter from a pilot.This well spoken man, who is a pilot with American Airlines, says what is in his heart, beautifully.

 

YOU WORRY ME!
 
By Captain John Maniscalco, American Airlines Pilot
 
I've been trying to say this since 911, but you worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me.
 
I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate, but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.
 
On September 11, ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings, killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.
 
The Palestinians celebrated, the Iraqis were overjoyed as was most of the Arab world. So, I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage, hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.

 
How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter MORE of the same good neighbors and children?
 
The events of September 11 changed the answer.. It is not MY responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.
 
I want to know, I DEMAND to know and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America ..... Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation; that He will protect it and let it prosper? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your Jihads? Are you thankful for the freedom that this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America ? ? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it

 
Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions YOU are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America . Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent, because I worry about who you regard as innocent.... No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks, because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy; I am interested only in action. What will you do for America - our great country - at this time of crisis, at this time of war?
 
I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting 'Allah Bless America '. I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.
 
The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize right now in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, NOW! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.
 
The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing 'leaders' like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.
 
IF the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good, pure, and true, when your 'leaders' ARE teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if huge numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.
 
We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us -- our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to DEMAND it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family.
 

I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American...... But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance, and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then, "YOU WORRY ME!"

CANADIAN COMMENTS:

I totally agree with this sentiment. I hope you will forget all about the 'political correctness' mandate we've had rammed down our throats, and see if this doesn't ring true in your heart and mind. For Canada , with all the multiculturalism we've been told is so important....why should we not, as Canadians, expect that the millions of new people immigrating to our country will show their love for our country, their allegiance to our country, their willingness to obey the laws of our country, and acceptance that we are a Christian country? Just because they are able to enjoy exercising their own religion, they should NOT expect us to be ashamed of ours. They knew Canada was a Christian country when they came here. Why are we erasing Christianity because immigrants who are unwilling to adopt our way of life expect us to? There is just too much insanity in the world, and we have to start taking a stand.
I hope you will forward this, so that others will feel they are not alone if they are starting to feel the same.

 

BRITISH COMMENTS:At last a clear non racist example of the concerns that the vast majority of our Nations population probably share. The pilot's letter encapsulates all that is fair and just about national pride and protection of one's national culture. I fear it may be too late here in UK , BUT we too want our country back in the form that attracted all these different cultures to come here in the first place!! In all our conversations with a wide range of friends and acquaintances we have not met one that disagrees with our own views. If only we all had the courage of our convictions to pass this on, it is a statement that should be accepted as the heart-felt feelings of someone with honest commendable national pride.

Australian Comment: Best email I have had in years it needs to be in every paper every day until we get some answers
 
THIS IS TOO GOOD TO JUST READ AND DELETE -- LET'S SATURATE NEW ZEALAND , AUSTRALIA , UK , EUROPE, USA , CANADA AND THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD WITH THIS ONE!

 

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Yeah, it's totally not a racist rant and this is obviously talking about completely different behavior from how Christians act. glare.gif

 

Grains of truth and all, but Christian shit obviously doesn't stink. They're totally full of wub and tollerantisms all over the wuld!! cloud9_99.gif It's obvious the Muslim countries have nothing to be angry about with our peace loving, good news spreading, totally awesome and equal for everyone Christian culture that loves and tolerates everyone no matter what! It's incredibly obvious there is no political agenda and that it's not racist because it says so right at the top! smiliegojerkit.gif Nothing hateful about it at all, and certainly not any kind of double standard or McCarthyism like paranoia. No sir. Not here.

 

It's really hard to read stuff like this, despite the small measure of truth it may contain, because of the hypocrisy of it.

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Got this in an E-mail. The pot calling the kettle black...

 

The “you” I address below is the author of the letter (whoever he really is), not CB.

 

By Captain John Maniscalco, American Airlines Pilot

As usually with such screeds, the veracity of this letter is difficult to ascertain. There does indeed exist a pilot named John Maniscalco, and there was indeed a letter similar to this one published in a Maryland newspaper, but no one knows where the piece originated or who composed it.

 

How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter MORE of the same good neighbors and children?

The same way you differentiate the true black Americans such as Trayvon Martin or yours truly from blacks who terrorize our inner cities. The same way I differentiate the true white Christian Americans from white Christians such as Timothy McVeigh and Charles Manson.

 

And while you’re at it, please don’t confuse Muslims with Sikhs, or Arabs with Indians.

 

The events of September 11 changed the answer.. It is not MY responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.

Arab/Muslim Americans (as well as all non-Arab/Muslim Americans with vaguely dark skin and certain styles of headgear) have now joined black Americans in having to answer for all the worst elements among them. When last did anyone DEMAND that decent white folk differentiate themselves from white terrorists and other white criminals?

 

I want to know, I DEMAND to know and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America ..... Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation; that He will protect it and let it prosper? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your Jihads? Are you thankful for the freedom that this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America ? ? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it

 

I don’t know where you live, but in my commnity, on September 12, 2001, you could not find an Arab-owned retail establishment that didn’t have American flags plastered all over the windows. I also recall that many American Muslims condemned the action in no uncertain terms, as did Muslim leaders in every Islamic country in the world except Afghanistan and Iraq. Many ordinary Muslims in places such as Indonesia were in denial that Muslims could even carry out such an attack.

 

The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing 'leaders' like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.

 

And you don’t want us to find out who is guilty before condemning people!? I really hope that you are never selected to serve on a jury! You wrote this before the second invasion of Iraq, but hopefully you now understand what a mistake it is to kill 100,000 people (in retaliation for the murder of fewer than 3000?) before getting the facts.

 

You seem awfully surprised that Arab/Muslims would be concerned about their own safety at a time when they are being targeted for attack. Are they not worthy of the same freedom and security as you are? If gangs of people started targeting white Christians for attack, would you not call for people not to attack white Christians?

 

BRITISH COMMENTS:At last a clear non racist example of the concerns that the vast majority of our Nations population probably share.

 

This piece oozes racism out of every pore. We have long gotten decent folk to realize that racism is wrong. We still have a ways to go in getting decent people to realize that racism still lurks within them.

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Got this in an E-mail. The pot calling the kettle black...

 

 

No name calling, no hatred, no politcal agenda.

Long but well worth the read.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CANADIAN COMMENT APPEARS AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE AND IS MEANINGFUL. THERE IS ALSO SOME RECENTLY ADDED BRITISH COMMENT.

 

This pilot hit the nail right on the head in his open letter.

 

A newspaper stated that some Muslim doctor is saying we are profiling him because he has been checked three times while getting on an airplane.The following is a letter from a pilot.This well spoken man, who is a pilot with American Airlines, says what is in his heart, beautifully.

 

YOU WORRY ME!

 

By Captain John Maniscalco, American Airlines Pilot

 

I've been trying to say this since 911, but you worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me.

 

I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate, but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

 

On September 11, ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings, killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.

The Palestinians celebrated, the Iraqis were overjoyed as was most of the Arab world. So, I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage, hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.

 

How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter MORE of the same good neighbors and children?

 

The events of September 11 changed the answer.. It is not MY responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.

I want to know, I DEMAND to know and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America ..... Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation; that He will protect it and let it prosper? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your Jihads? Are you thankful for the freedom that this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America ? ? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it

 

Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions YOU are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America . Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent, because I worry about who you regard as innocent.... No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks, because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy; I am interested only in action. What will you do for America - our great country - at this time of crisis, at this time of war?

 

I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting 'Allah Bless America '. I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.

 

The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize right now in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, NOW! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.

 

The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing 'leaders' like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.

 

IF the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good, pure, and true, when your 'leaders' ARE teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if huge numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.

 

We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us -- our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to DEMAND it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family.

 

I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American...... But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance, and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then, "YOU WORRY ME!"

 

CANADIAN COMMENTS:

 

I totally agree with this sentiment. I hope you will forget all about the 'political correctness' mandate we've had rammed down our throats, and see if this doesn't ring true in your heart and mind. For Canada , with all the multiculturalism we've been told is so important....why should we not, as Canadians, expect that the millions of new people immigrating to our country will show their love for our country, their allegiance to our country, their willingness to obey the laws of our country, and acceptance that we are a Christian country? Just because they are able to enjoy exercising their own religion, they should NOT expect us to be ashamed of ours. They knew Canada was a Christian country when they came here. Why are we erasing Christianity because immigrants who are unwilling to adopt our way of life expect us to? There is just too much insanity in the world, and we have to start taking a stand.

I hope you will forward this, so that others will feel they are not alone if they are starting to feel the same.

 

BRITISH COMMENTS:At last a clear non racist example of the concerns that the vast majority of our Nations population probably share. The pilot's letter encapsulates all that is fair and just about national pride and protection of one's national culture. I fear it may be too late here in UK , BUT we too want our country back in the form that attracted all these different cultures to come here in the first place!! In all our conversations with a wide range of friends and acquaintances we have not met one that disagrees with our own views. If only we all had the courage of our convictions to pass this on, it is a statement that should be accepted as the heart-felt feelings of someone with honest commendable national pride.

 

Australian Comment: Best email I have had in years it needs to be in every paper every day until we get some answers

THIS IS TOO GOOD TO JUST READ AND DELETE -- LET'S SATURATE NEW ZEALAND , AUSTRALIA , UK , EUROPE, USA , CANADA AND THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD WITH THIS ONE!

(Insert heavy sigh) KatieHmm.gif

 

Yeah, it's totally not a racist rant and this is obviously talking about completely different behavior from how Christians act. glare.gif

 

Grains of truth and all, but Christian shit obviously doesn't stink. They're totally full of wub and tollerantisms all over the wuld!! cloud9_99.gif It's obvious the Muslim countries have nothing to be angry about with our peace loving, good news spreading, totally awesome and equal for everyone Christian culture that loves and tolerates everyone no matter what! It's incredibly obvious there is no political agenda and that it's not racist because it says so right at the top! smiliegojerkit.gif Nothing hateful about it at all, and certainly not any kind of double standard or McCarthyism like paranoia. No sir. Not here.

 

It's really hard to read stuff like this, despite the small measure of truth it may contain, because of the hypocrisy of it.

Leave your religion at the door, because we are a CHRISTIAN nation. And always remember that we GAWD-FEARIN' CHILDREN OF JAYZUZ are the boss around here, got it?

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My mom's having car trouble, and in the middle of a discussion about what's going on and how the mechanic apparently released the vehicle with the check engine light still on and sometimes flashing, she says this:

 

I've been told he is a believer, so I'm hoping the conversation will go well...and it will be via phone, since I have to work...

As if being a "believer" had anything to do with being an honest mechanic. :Doh:

 

I almost hate to say this, but in my line of work, the very moment I hear a client say "I'm a good christian woman" I'm 99% certain she's going to end up being sent to collections. I've been at my job for three years now and only one person who has ever made that statement actually followed through and paid her bill.

 

Unfortunately for me, the "believers" tend to be the most troublesome.

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Got this in an E-mail. The pot calling the kettle black...

No name calling, no hatred, no politcal agenda.

Long but well worth the read.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CANADIAN COMMENT APPEARS AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE AND IS MEANINGFUL. THERE IS ALSO SOME RECENTLY ADDED BRITISH COMMENT.

 

This pilot hit the nail right on the head in his open letter.

 

A newspaper stated that some Muslim doctor is saying we are profiling him because he has been checked three times while getting on an airplane.The following is a letter from a pilot.This well spoken man, who is a pilot with American Airlines, says what is in his heart, beautifully.

 

 

YOU WORRY ME!

 

By Captain John Maniscalco, American Airlines Pilot

 

I've been trying to say this since 911, but you worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me.

 

I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate, but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

 

On September 11, ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings, killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.

 

The Palestinians celebrated, the Iraqis were overjoyed as was most of the Arab world. So, I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage, hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.

 

How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter MORE of the same good neighbors and children?

 

The events of September 11 changed the answer.. It is not MY responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.

 

I want to know, I DEMAND to know and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America ..... Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation; that He will protect it and let it prosper? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your Jihads? Are you thankful for the freedom that this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America ? ? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it

 

Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions YOU are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America . Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent, because I worry about who you regard as innocent.... No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks, because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy; I am interested only in action. What will you do for America - our great country - at this time of crisis, at this time of war?

 

I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting 'Allah Bless America '. I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.

 

The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize right now in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, NOW! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.

 

The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing 'leaders' like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.

 

IF the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good, pure, and true, when your 'leaders' ARE teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if huge numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.

 

We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us -- our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to DEMAND it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family.

 

 

I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American...... But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance, and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then, "YOU WORRY ME!"

 

CANADIAN COMMENTS:

 

I totally agree with this sentiment. I hope you will forget all about the 'political correctness' mandate we've had rammed down our throats, and see if this doesn't ring true in your heart and mind. For Canada , with all the multiculturalism we've been told is so important....why should we not, as Canadians, expect that the millions of new people immigrating to our country will show their love for our country, their allegiance to our country, their willingness to obey the laws of our country, and acceptance that we are a Christian country? Just because they are able to enjoy exercising their own religion, they should NOT expect us to be ashamed of ours. They knew Canada was a Christian country when they came here. Why are we erasing Christianity because immigrants who are unwilling to adopt our way of life expect us to? There is just too much insanity in the world, and we have to start taking a stand.

I hope you will forward this, so that others will feel they are not alone if they are starting to feel the same.

 

 

BRITISH COMMENTS:At last a clear non racist example of the concerns that the vast majority of our Nations population probably share. The pilot's letter encapsulates all that is fair and just about national pride and protection of one's national culture. I fear it may be too late here in UK , BUT we too want our country back in the form that attracted all these different cultures to come here in the first place!! In all our conversations with a wide range of friends and acquaintances we have not met one that disagrees with our own views. If only we all had the courage of our convictions to pass this on, it is a statement that should be accepted as the heart-felt feelings of someone with honest commendable national pride.

 

Australian Comment: Best email I have had in years it needs to be in every paper every day until we get some answers

 

THIS IS TOO GOOD TO JUST READ AND DELETE -- LET'S SATURATE NEW ZEALAND , AUSTRALIA , UK , EUROPE, USA , CANADA AND THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD WITH THIS ONE!

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Yeah, it's totally not a racist rant and this is obviously talking about completely different behavior from how Christians act. glare.gif

 

Grains of truth and all, but Christian shit obviously doesn't stink. They're totally full of wub and tollerantisms all over the wuld!! cloud9_99.gif It's obvious the Muslim countries have nothing to be angry about with our peace loving, good news spreading, totally awesome and equal for everyone Christian culture that loves and tolerates everyone no matter what! It's incredibly obvious there is no political agenda and that it's not racist because it says so right at the top! smiliegojerkit.gif Nothing hateful about it at all, and certainly not any kind of double standard or McCarthyism like paranoia. No sir. Not here.

 

It's really hard to read stuff like this, despite the small measure of truth it may contain, because of the hypocrisy of it.

Leave your religion at the door, because we are a CHRISTIAN nation. And always remember that we GAWD-FEARIN' CHILDREN OF JAYZUZ are the boss around here, got it?

 

What irritates me about this letter is that Canada is NOT a christian nation. We're secular. Just as the US is supposed to be. Am I an awful person because stupid people spouting shit like that irritates me?

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All that ignorant racism in one place. Damn. 49.gif

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The big guy was up in heaven with some doritos yelling "FUCK YEAH SEEEAAAHAWWWKKKSSS, IN YOUR FACE BRONCOS"

Good thing he wasn't doing anything useful like saving starving children, that would make him seem like he's not shallow and petty!

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Remember: the rule is if u have money god will help you

Tim is rich and famous so god will definitely help him

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We have idiots up here too… Ford is a good example. We do try to ship them your way though, a la Bieber  GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

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We have idiots up here too… Ford is a good example. We do try to ship them your way though, a la Bieber  GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

 

Well, you did give us James Randi and Alex Trebek, so we can't complain. (We're even on Ted Cruz; we lent you his parents and you sent him back.)

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Don't forget RUSH!  and.. let's see, off the top of my head:

 

John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Bill Shatner, Leonard Cohen, Howie Mandel, Michael J. Fox, Seth Rogan, Eugene Levy, Catharine O'Hara, Donald Sutherland, Shannon Tweed, Neil Young, Chris Hadfield, John Molson (beer!), Terry Foxm, Rick Hansen, Alexander Graham Bell, James Naismith(Basketball inventor), James Cameron, Sebastian Bach, James Randi, Marshall McLuhan, David Suzuki, Margaret Atwood, Mordecai Richler, Paul Anka, Raymond Burr, Jackie Burroughs, Jim Carrey, Kim Cattrell, Tommy Chong, Dave Foley, The Kids in the Hall and SCTV!, Ryan Gosling, Dallas Green(yay!), Tom Green (sorry), Graham Greene, Monty Hall, Phil Hartman, Michael Ironside (!), Amanda Tapping, Martin Short, Keifer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Saul Rubinek, Russell Peters, Christopher Plummer(!), Amanda Plummer, Liona Boyd, Sandra Oh, Margot Kidder(sorry), Andrea Martin, Carrie-Anne Moss, Natalie Portman, Alanis Morissette, Bruce Cockburn, Linda Evangelista, Leslie Neilsen, Mary Pickford, Bryan Adams, The Band, Sass Jordan, Kim Mitchell, Matthew Good Band, 54-40, Bush, Deadmau5, Sloan, Sarah McLaughlin, Payolas, The Trews, Max Webster, Grapes of Wrath, Sum 41, Helix, Finger Eleven, Triumph, Jeff Healey Band, Spoons, k.d. Lang, Lighthouse (Sunny Days is the best summertime drinking song), Bif Naked, Three Days Grace, Down With Webster, Robbie Robertson, The Guess Who, BTO, Billy Talent, Trooper, Sweeney Todd, The Tragically Hip, Steppenwolf, Platinum Blonde (sorry), Simple Plan, Headpins, Red Rider, Cowboy Junkies, I Mother Earth, Barenaked Ladies, The Kings, Marianas Trench, Alexisonfire, Our Lady Peace, Skinny Puppy, Blue Rodeo, Arcade Fire, April Wine, and Metric...

 

Does that make up for Bieber?  We also apologize for Michael Bublé, Drake and Nickelback… and Celine Dion. She can sing but she's really fucking annoying otherwise. (Quebec, what can I say) But!!!  Gordon Lightfoot!

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Wow Ravenstar! that's impressive, I bet you kick ass on crosswords. I'm horrible at em. Steppenwolf??,,,,really.

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Trivial pursuit and scrabble are my games.. Ya! Steppenwolf!  Great band.

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Don't forget RUSH!  and.. let's see, off the top of my head:

 

John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Bill Shatner, Leonard Cohen, Howie Mandel, Michael J. Fox, Seth Rogan, Eugene Levy, Catharine O'Hara, Donald Sutherland, Shannon Tweed, Neil Young, Chris Hadfield, John Molson (beer!), Terry Foxm, Rick Hansen, Alexander Graham Bell, James Naismith(Basketball inventor), James Cameron, Sebastian Bach, James Randi, Marshall McLuhan, David Suzuki, Margaret Atwood, Mordecai Richler, Paul Anka, Raymond Burr, Jackie Burroughs, Jim Carrey, Kim Cattrell, Tommy Chong, Dave Foley, The Kids in the Hall and SCTV!, Ryan Gosling, Dallas Green(yay!), Tom Green (sorry), Graham Greene, Monty Hall, Phil Hartman, Michael Ironside (!), Amanda Tapping, Martin Short, Keifer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Saul Rubinek, Russell Peters, Christopher Plummer(!), Amanda Plummer, Liona Boyd, Sandra Oh, Margot Kidder(sorry), Andrea Martin, Carrie-Anne Moss, Natalie Portman, Alanis Morissette, Bruce Cockburn, Linda Evangelista, Leslie Neilsen, Mary Pickford, Bryan Adams, The Band, Sass Jordan, Kim Mitchell, Matthew Good Band, 54-40, Bush, Deadmau5, Sloan, Sarah McLaughlin, Payolas, The Trews, Max Webster, Grapes of Wrath, Sum 41, Helix, Finger Eleven, Triumph, Jeff Healey Band, Spoons, k.d. Lang, Lighthouse (Sunny Days is the best summertime drinking song), Bif Naked, Three Days Grace, Down With Webster, Robbie Robertson, The Guess Who, BTO, Billy Talent, Trooper, Sweeney Todd, The Tragically Hip, Steppenwolf, Platinum Blonde (sorry), Simple Plan, Headpins, Red Rider, Cowboy Junkies, I Mother Earth, Barenaked Ladies, The Kings, Marianas Trench, Alexisonfire, Our Lady Peace, Skinny Puppy, Blue Rodeo, Arcade Fire, April Wine, and Metric...

 

Does that make up for Bieber?  We also apologize for Michael Bublé, Drake and Nickelback… and Celine Dion. She can sing but she's really fucking annoying otherwise. (Quebec, what can I say) But!!!  Gordon Lightfoot!

 

Don't forget to apologize for Anne Murray while you're at it. Tom Green isn't exactly a great import either.

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I apologized for Tom…!!!  :D

 

sorry, again  :(

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My favorite Canadian import is Maudite.

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Aw, don't apologize for Anne Murray. I like her singing!

 

P.S. CB, thank you for Tom Petty. (Having attended GHS in the late 70s, I'm 2 degrees of separation from him.)

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kd lang and Leonard Cohen make up for a lot. 

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Former Lesbian... let me stop you right there. Really? Former lesbian? Really? I can't get myself to actually read the article, I already have a hard time sleeping when I'm not fuming about something so ridiculous. I feel sorry for the people that feel that they have to be something they are not because god hates them the way they are.

 

Hang on.  Aren't you being just as intolerant as the Christian Right if you declare that sexuality is immutable?

 

I know you probably approach this with the best intent, but I would say it's pretty narrow minded.

 

If I tomorrow discover I am gay, are you going to to criticise me for being something that I am not - just because I was straight until now?

 

Be careful.

 

(Sorry, didn't check this for a while) What I don't like is that people think that homosexuality can be "cured" or means there is something wrong. If you find that you are gay tomorrow, super, don't fucking care. Same if it was the other way. It's the idea that being gay is something that needs to be fixed is what I hate.

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Former Lesbian... let me stop you right there. Really? Former lesbian? Really? I can't get myself to actually read the article, I already have a hard time sleeping when I'm not fuming about something so ridiculous. I feel sorry for the people that feel that they have to be something they are not because god hates them the way they are.

 

Hang on.  Aren't you being just as intolerant as the Christian Right if you declare that sexuality is immutable?

 

I know you probably approach this with the best intent, but I would say it's pretty narrow minded.

 

If I tomorrow discover I am gay, are you going to to criticise me for being something that I am not - just because I was straight until now?

 

Be careful.

 

(Sorry, didn't check this for a while) What I don't like is that people think that homosexuality can be "cured" or means there is something wrong. If you find that you are gay tomorrow, super, don't fucking care. Same if it was the other way. It's the idea that being gay is something that needs to be fixed is what I hate.

 

 

Thank you for your reply.  I think that makes a lot more sense. :)

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Former Lesbian... let me stop you right there. Really? Former lesbian? Really? I can't get myself to actually read the article, I already have a hard time sleeping when I'm not fuming about something so ridiculous. I feel sorry for the people that feel that they have to be something they are not because god hates them the way they are.

 

Hang on.  Aren't you being just as intolerant as the Christian Right if you declare that sexuality is immutable?

 

I know you probably approach this with the best intent, but I would say it's pretty narrow minded.

 

If I tomorrow discover I am gay, are you going to to criticise me for being something that I am not - just because I was straight until now?

 

Be careful.

 

(Sorry, didn't check this for a while) What I don't like is that people think that homosexuality can be "cured" or means there is something wrong. If you find that you are gay tomorrow, super, don't fucking care. Same if it was the other way. It's the idea that being gay is something that needs to be fixed is what I hate.

 

 

Thank you for your reply.  I think that makes a lot more sense. smile.png

 

I, obviously, needed to clarify what I meant. Reading what I originally wrote, I realize I thought this but never wrote it.

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Don't forget RUSH! and.. let's see, off the top of my head:

 

John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Bill Shatner, Leonard Cohen, Howie Mandel, Michael J. Fox, Seth Rogan, Eugene Levy, Catharine O'Hara, Donald Sutherland, Shannon Tweed, Neil Young, Chris Hadfield, John Molson (beer!), Terry Foxm, Rick Hansen, Alexander Graham Bell, James Naismith(Basketball inventor), James Cameron, Sebastian Bach, James Randi, Marshall McLuhan, David Suzuki, Margaret Atwood, Mordecai Richler, Paul Anka, Raymond Burr, Jackie Burroughs, Jim Carrey, Kim Cattrell, Tommy Chong, Dave Foley, The Kids in the Hall and SCTV!, Ryan Gosling, Dallas Green(yay!), Tom Green (sorry), Graham Greene, Monty Hall, Phil Hartman, Michael Ironside (!), Amanda Tapping, Martin Short, Keifer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Saul Rubinek, Russell Peters, Christopher Plummer(!), Amanda Plummer, Liona Boyd, Sandra Oh, Margot Kidder(sorry), Andrea Martin, Carrie-Anne Moss, Natalie Portman, Alanis Morissette, Bruce Cockburn, Linda Evangelista, Leslie Neilsen, Mary Pickford, Bryan Adams, The Band, Sass Jordan, Kim Mitchell, Matthew Good Band, 54-40, Bush, Deadmau5, Sloan, Sarah McLaughlin, Payolas, The Trews, Max Webster, Grapes of Wrath, Sum 41, Helix, Finger Eleven, Triumph, Jeff Healey Band, Spoons, k.d. Lang, Lighthouse (Sunny Days is the best summertime drinking song), Bif Naked, Three Days Grace, Down With Webster, Robbie Robertson, The Guess Who, BTO, Billy Talent, Trooper, Sweeney Todd, The Tragically Hip, Steppenwolf, Platinum Blonde (sorry), Simple Plan, Headpins, Red Rider, Cowboy Junkies, I Mother Earth, Barenaked Ladies, The Kings, Marianas Trench, Alexisonfire, Our Lady Peace, Skinny Puppy, Blue Rodeo, Arcade Fire, April Wine, and Metric...

 

Does that make up for Bieber? We also apologize for Michael Bublé, Drake and Nickelback… and Celine Dion. She can sing but she's really fucking annoying otherwise. (Quebec, what can I say) But!!! Gordon Lightfoot!

What's wrong with Michael Buble?

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Don't forget RUSH! and.. let's see, off the top of my head:

 

John Candy, Dan Akroyd, Bill Shatner, Leonard Cohen, Howie Mandel, Michael J. Fox, Seth Rogan, Eugene Levy, Catharine O'Hara, Donald Sutherland, Shannon Tweed, Neil Young, Chris Hadfield, John Molson (beer!), Terry Foxm, Rick Hansen, Alexander Graham Bell, James Naismith(Basketball inventor), James Cameron, Sebastian Bach, James Randi, Marshall McLuhan, David Suzuki, Margaret Atwood, Mordecai Richler, Paul Anka, Raymond Burr, Jackie Burroughs, Jim Carrey, Kim Cattrell, Tommy Chong, Dave Foley, The Kids in the Hall and SCTV!, Ryan Gosling, Dallas Green(yay!), Tom Green (sorry), Graham Greene, Monty Hall, Phil Hartman, Michael Ironside (!), Amanda Tapping, Martin Short, Keifer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Saul Rubinek, Russell Peters, Christopher Plummer(!), Amanda Plummer, Liona Boyd, Sandra Oh, Margot Kidder(sorry), Andrea Martin, Carrie-Anne Moss, Natalie Portman, Alanis Morissette, Bruce Cockburn, Linda Evangelista, Leslie Neilsen, Mary Pickford, Bryan Adams, The Band, Sass Jordan, Kim Mitchell, Matthew Good Band, 54-40, Bush, Deadmau5, Sloan, Sarah McLaughlin, Payolas, The Trews, Max Webster, Grapes of Wrath, Sum 41, Helix, Finger Eleven, Triumph, Jeff Healey Band, Spoons, k.d. Lang, Lighthouse (Sunny Days is the best summertime drinking song), Bif Naked, Three Days Grace, Down With Webster, Robbie Robertson, The Guess Who, BTO, Billy Talent, Trooper, Sweeney Todd, The Tragically Hip, Steppenwolf, Platinum Blonde (sorry), Simple Plan, Headpins, Red Rider, Cowboy Junkies, I Mother Earth, Barenaked Ladies, The Kings, Marianas Trench, Alexisonfire, Our Lady Peace, Skinny Puppy, Blue Rodeo, Arcade Fire, April Wine, and Metric...

 

Does that make up for Bieber? We also apologize for Michael Bublé, Drake and Nickelback… and Celine Dion. She can sing but she's really fucking annoying otherwise. (Quebec, what can I say) But!!! Gordon Lightfoot!

What's wrong with Michael Buble?

 

 

What's wrong with Nickelback and Gordon Lightfoot?

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