openpalm45 Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 So, because you seek God, He has brought you the perfect husband. What about all the Christian women with husbands who treat them like shit, or beat them, or all the women who are raped? Or the starving, dying children of the world? Apparently God doesn't give a fuck about them. Oh, but its okay, he found you the perfect man. Good for you. (wow, I just had a rant) 2
Sybaris Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Yup, christards seem to suffer from severe myopia.
asanerman Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 So, because you seek God, He has brought you the perfect husband. What about all the Christian women with husbands who treat them like shit, or beat them, or all the women who are raped? Or the starving, dying children of the world? Apparently God doesn't give a fuck about them. Oh, but its okay, he found you the perfect man. Good for you. (wow, I just had a rant) That old tired thought process lost its "mind" with me when the woman of my life walked out. We had made a pledge to ourselves and to_ _ _-- (excuse me, I no longer can speak the "He" word)-- to love and cherish each other in fidelity and in honor! Something happen! We were mistaken. Our relationship was something other than what the "divine plan" had predicted. Come to find out, after five long years of hell, It was more about propagating the species, one upping each other and Ego than about an almighty father's divine match making abilities-- (excuse me again, but why is He always a he and not a She? What is it about hes' that somehow make them "more" capable than shes'?) We both were duped! "Blinded by the Light!" Once I understood that the Great Myth that had animated my life for so long, had things-- more than a little-- turned around; I begin my life long quest of coming to terms with "all that is within me." The next women to walk into my life was also on her own quest. Our promise to each other became; that neither one of us was expected to completely sacrifice our individual need for growth and happiness for the other. Our relationship and our 36 years of marriage was and is based upon mutual growth--a partnership, a mutual give and take, supporting the other in times of distress, darkness and sorrow and need, celebrating together after having "walked the the valley of the shadow" together to the light on the other side, becoming the leader or the follower in times of necessity, rejoicing in the goodness and kindness of maturity, and never sacrificing completely our basic need and desire for growth and happiness at the detriment of the other. Pardon me, did I just give a functional definition of the inner sanctum of "heaven on earth" and without all the unnecessary God (OOPS) baggage! Who are the match makers here? What's all this talk about who is seeking whom? Walter Anderson is right "Our lives improve only when we take chances - and the first and most difficult risk we can take is to be honest with ourselves." WOW! This is my first "rant!" 7
Foxy Methoxy Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 When things go well, it's because the Lord has been good to you. When they go poorly, it's because the Lord is testing you, or because of the devil attacking. However, I've yet to hear anyone credit God for the meaningless, pointless, insignifigant moments. Should we also give praise for the boring things in life? And if so, how do you properly credit God for all things mediocre, routine, and dull?
Thought2Much Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 When things go well, it's because the Lord has been good to you. When they go poorly, it's because the Lord is testing you, or because of the devil attacking. However, I've yet to hear anyone credit God for the meaningless, pointless, insignifigant moments. Should we also give praise for the boring things in life? And if so, how do you properly credit God for all things mediocre, routine, and dull? Bolding mine. Don't forget the other option for when things don't go well: you haven't prayed enough about the action you're taking, so you're now out of the Lord's will, you naughty human, you. Why would you actually think you get to use your gift of free will instead of asking God about every last minute detail of your life? Oh, and regarding the original post, what about those people that spend their entire lives waiting for God to deliver them "the one" that wind up getting married in their forties, or that never get married at all? What is God telling them? Having lived in the Assemblies of God for twenty years, I have seen this happen a number of times. Some Christians become so devoted to their faith, so busy with church nonsense that they never actually date or get married. It's an awful thing to watch these people grow older and desperate, and hear them try to reassure themselves that "God is my husband."
ConureDelSol Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 @asanerman - I'm glad you managed to find someone you seem to connect with! You've learned to live life one day at a time and not according to some "divine plan" When things go well, it's because the Lord has been good to you. When they go poorly, it's because the Lord is testing you, or because of the devil attacking. However, I've yet to hear anyone credit God for the meaningless, pointless, insignifigant moments. Should we also give praise for the boring things in life? And if so, how do you properly credit God for all things mediocre, routine, and dull? Bolding mine. Don't forget the other option for when things don't go well: you haven't prayed enough about the action you're taking, so you're now out of the Lord's will, you naughty human, you. Why would you actually think you get to use your gift of free will instead of asking God about every last minute detail of your life? Oh, and regarding the original post, what about those people that spend their entire lives waiting for God to deliver them "the one" that wind up getting married in their forties, or that never get married at all? What is God telling them? Having lived in the Assemblies of God for twenty years, I have seen this happen a number of times. Some Christians become so devoted to their faith, so busy with church nonsense that they never actually date or get married. It's an awful thing to watch these people grow older and desperate, and hear them try to reassure themselves that "God is my husband." Or, some people get married and then get so obsessed with church that they never spend time with their spouses and their marriage dissolves without them noticing.
Foxy Methoxy Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 And there is the time honored evangelic tradition of a pastor who every week gives all the glory to God for his beautiful, trusting wife and eventually runs off with a cute admin assistant half his age. After abandoning his family and congregation, does he continue to give God credit for the sweet piece of ass he's tapping? 1
par4dcourse Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 And there is the time honored evangelic tradition of a pastor who every week gives all the glory to God for his beautiful, trusting wife and eventually runs off with a cute admin assistant half his age. After abandoning his family and congregation, does he continue to give God credit for the sweet piece of ass he's tapping? Or all the pastors who are caught boinkin' the choir boys. Does he give thanks for faithful wife and Little Johnny too? 1
Foxy Methoxy Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 And there is the time honored evangelic tradition of a pastor who every week gives all the glory to God for his beautiful, trusting wife and eventually runs off with a cute admin assistant half his age. After abandoning his family and congregation, does he continue to give God credit for the sweet piece of ass he's tapping? Or all the pastors who are caught boinkin' the choir boys. Does he give thanks for faithful wife and Little Johnny too? Oh no you dih-int! (That's what Little Johnny said)
openpalm45 Posted December 23, 2011 Author Posted December 23, 2011 So, because you seek God, He has brought you the perfect husband. What about all the Christian women with husbands who treat them like shit, or beat them, or all the women who are raped? Or the starving, dying children of the world? Apparently God doesn't give a fuck about them. Oh, but its okay, he found you the perfect man. Good for you. (wow, I just had a rant) That old tired thought process lost its "mind" with me when the woman of my life walked out. We had made a pledge to ourselves and to_ _ _-- (excuse me, I no longer can speak the "He" word)-- to love and cherish each other in fidelity and in honor! Something happen! We were mistaken. Our relationship was something other than what the "divine plan" had predicted. Come to find out, after five long years of hell, It was more about propagating the species, one upping each other and Ego than about an almighty father's divine match making abilities-- (excuse me again, but why is He always a he and not a She? What is it about hes' that somehow make them "more" capable than shes'?) We both were duped! "Blinded by the Light!" Once I understood that the Great Myth that had animated my life for so long, had things-- more than a little-- turned around; I begin my life long quest of coming to terms with "all that is within me." The next women to walk into my life was also on her own quest. Our promise to each other became; that neither one of us was expected to completely sacrifice our individual need for growth and happiness for the other. Our relationship and our 36 years of marriage was and is based upon mutual growth--a partnership, a mutual give and take, supporting the other in times of distress, darkness and sorrow and need, celebrating together after having "walked the the valley of the shadow" together to the light on the other side, becoming the leader or the follower in times of necessity, rejoicing in the goodness and kindness of maturity, and never sacrificing completely our basic need and desire for growth and happiness at the detriment of the other. Pardon me, did I just give a functional definition of the inner sanctum of "heaven on earth" and without all the unnecessary God (OOPS) baggage! Who are the match makers here? What's all this talk about who is seeking whom? Walter Anderson is right "Our lives improve only when we take chances - and the first and most difficult risk we can take is to be honest with ourselves." WOW! This is my first "rant!" Yeah, my parents thought it was God's will for them to marry. They are now divorced for several years and can barely stand to have a conversation with each other. Sometimes I hope that people with this ridiculous idea of God choosing your spouse, get divorced, so they get a good dose of reality. But then again, they'll just find some excuse to keep on believing the way they do. Like my mom says "Even though it wasn't a great situation, I wonder where I would have been otherwise, if I hadnt married your dad." As if marrying an alcoholic man with issues that tried to force her to "submit", was God's best option for her
mymistake Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Yeah, my parents thought it was God's will for them to marry. They are now divorced for several years and can barely stand to have a conversation with each other. Sometimes I hope that people with this ridiculous idea of God choosing your spouse, get divorced, so they get a good dose of reality. But then again, they'll just find some excuse to keep on believing the way they do. Like my mom says "Even though it wasn't a great situation, I wonder where I would have been otherwise, if I hadnt married your dad." As if marrying an alcoholic man with issues that tried to force her to "submit", was God's best option for her Sorry to hear about your family. Yeah Christianity perpetuates a lot of myths, including some about marriage. Waiting on God teaches Christians to be passive, to stop thinking for themselves, stop making decisions and let their life fall apart. The stats I have seen show that Christian marriages last about as well as other groups. 1
openpalm45 Posted December 23, 2011 Author Posted December 23, 2011 Yeah, my parents thought it was God's will for them to marry. They are now divorced for several years and can barely stand to have a conversation with each other. Sometimes I hope that people with this ridiculous idea of God choosing your spouse, get divorced, so they get a good dose of reality. But then again, they'll just find some excuse to keep on believing the way they do. Like my mom says "Even though it wasn't a great situation, I wonder where I would have been otherwise, if I hadnt married your dad." As if marrying an alcoholic man with issues that tried to force her to "submit", was God's best option for her Sorry to hear about your family. Yeah Christianity perpetuates a lot of myths, including some about marriage. Waiting of God teaches Christians to be passive, to stop thinking for themselves, stop making decisions and let their life fall apart. The stats I have seen show that Christian marriages last about as well as other groups. Yeah, but who knows how happy they are. Many stay together just because the Bible says God hates divorce, but they are miserable. Its really sad..
VeryBerry Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 I have a couple of friends who waited until they were in late thirties to get married. They believe that God led them to a "godly man" at the right time. Both of my friends are having trouble having children. In fact, one of them had a miscarriage last year; the other hasn't been able to conceive at all. Is it God's will to have them wait way beyond their child bearing years to get married? What kind of loving God would deprive good christian women of children? I forgot to add that they both were virgins when they married their spouses. Interestingly, I know a few non-christian who were able to have children in their late thirties and/or early forties. On another note, regarding how miserable Christians are in their marriage, check out their prayer board. I have copied and pasted a few prayer requests from annointed.net. It's interesting how none of those people who ask for prayer for restoration of marriage never return to give a praise report. It's pretty sad. There are hundreds of prayer requests for marriage restoration on the site...I guess those Christians forgot to seek God when they decided to marry their spouses. My husband and I have been married for 22 years. I thought we were so in love that nothing would ever separate us. I truly believed this. Then I found out in April that he was in the middle of an affair thad had been going on for two years. We were not living in the will of the Lord already, and I had become depressed before this, so the news put me over the edge and I had a serious suicide attempt. I failed, thank God, however, my husband will not let me return home. He states he has since broken off the relationship with the other woman, but still will not let me come home. Since my awakening from the attempt, I have found my Lord again, and have been striving diligently to live in His light. I have prayed and prayed for my relationship with my husband. I have made every attempt to be the wonderful wife he says he wants. I trust in the Lord. I need supporting prayers. God bless, David Wife leaving marriage for Lesbian affair About a year ago my wife told me that she had fell in love with a lesbian woman that she was trying to minister to. At first she was open and honest with me and I prayed with her and tried to be as understanding as possible. After about 6 months she said that God woke her up and she stopped seeing this woman. At that point I thought that God had restored our marriage and things were never better. She said that she loved me and promised never to see her again. To make things short, she really never let go and started texting her on Facebook. That then led her back to a full blown affair again. I know that I didn't love her the way I should and never conpletely met her needs. She is a very needy person and at one point I even gave up. I know now that that was wrong. For the last year I did learn how to love her the way Christ entended, but it wasn't enough. I have learned that a husband cannot love someone away from sin, only Christ can do that. Now I can only pray for her. We also have a 14 year old son who attends a Christian school. Please pray that Satan will release his grips on her. On the other hand, God has and is working in my life in ways that I cannot even believe. He is molding me into the man he always intended me to be. For years she prayed for this, yet now she wants no part of it. God really does work is strange ways. She has left our house now and living with her lesbian "friend". Please pray that God convicts her of her sin (she is twisting scripture) and that He brings her home and restores our marriage. Also pray that He continues doing a good work in me and that she truely sees that in my words and actions. I love this woman and would be willing to lay my life down for her. Pray for Mariage My wife and I are not getting along right now, she does not believe me that I love her. We have both done things wrong to eachother. Please Pray that God will soften her heart and try and save our marriage. Are names are Curtis and LeAnn. We both need christian counseling. Pray that we will start going to church together. Curtis Marriage heal and totally restored My husband have had several affairs on me during the time that we have been married. We have been marries for 24 yrs. I found out three yrs ago by a card in mail my mail boxes that he had fathered a child. He dont see the error of his ways he feel like if I was a better wife he never would have cheated in the marriage as many times as he did. He appear to be very angry with me to the point that I feel like its turning to hatred. He not physcial with me, he dont talk to me and he not accountable only when he choose to be. I really do love my husband and I dont want to be hurt, but I feel like I put up with alot becuase I want my marriage even verbal abuse. He has made threats of leaving several times and divorcing me, he just told me yesterday that the marriage has suffered to much and he is leaving the begining of the year. I feel like my marriage can be restored and I dont want him to leave. My husband need to be heal from lieing, unforgivness, the spirit of adultry and living a double life. He is a pastor now and he harbor all these things in his heart and he try very hard to ignore the things that he has done to damage the marriage. I want to be treated like a wife should be like Christ love the church. I believe God can do anything. Please pray!
Foxy Methoxy Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 Yeah, but who knows how happy they are. Many stay together just because the Bible says God hates divorce, but they are miserable. Its really sad.. My Grandfather divorced his first wife even though it was completely against their beliefs. I asked him about it once and he said "I don't worry that God is angry with me. Moses would have divorced that woman!" 2
blackpudd1n Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 Yeah, I got suckered by christianity, god, the church, the bible, whatever, into a shitty christian marriage. All I can say is that I'm glad I've always had a rebellious streak, and got the hell out of there after 11 months. My ex-husband never actually understood that trying to tell me what to do and trying to turn me into a submissive little wife was never going to work long-term. Neither did he understand how tough and rough my up-bringing had been, and just how resourceful I could be. Sure, I had no money when I left. But I knew I could work that one out, and I did. He simply never understood that I'd rather be broke and happy than okay and unhappy. I'd always lived life on my terms from the age of 14; no-one was going to create the terms for me. 2
par4dcourse Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 It's simple really. God just changes his mind a lot. "Let's see.....Ted and Margie are drearily happy, let's make him fall in love with the cosmetics lady at Walmart and see what happens." 1
asanerman Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 Yeah, my parents thought it was God's will for them to marry. They are now divorced for several years and can barely stand to have a conversation with each other. On another note, regarding how miserable Christians are in their marriage, check out their prayer board. I have copied and pasted a few prayer requests from annointed.net. It's interesting how none of those people who ask for prayer for restoration of marriage never return to give a praise report. It's pretty sad. There are hundreds of prayer requests for marriage restoration on the site...I guess those Christians forgot to seek God when they decided to marry their spouses. My wife and I have been married 21 years. We dated for 4 years. We had several fundy friends who said when speaking to either of us..."If God has shown you that he/she is the one for you, then you are SINNING by delaying getting married..." Funny thing is, every damned one of those people are now divorced....NO SHIT...LOL.........Irony of ironies. LOL....... All of what I read "here"--the accounts of what relationships "must" or "ought" to be like (myths of the givens) as compared to what we experience them to be in living, is indicative of the unfathomable disconnect we all experience between our conception of living and the actual experience of living. The pain and suffering is evident! What a "nut" that is to crack! 1
Reprobate Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 If getting married didn't happen young, the odds did not seem good. There seemed to be a whole lot of insecurity among christain singles, men in particular? - they were the ones that had to make the move. Insecure is unattractive. Lots of goofy ideas about dating, fear of stepping outside of god's will, the extreme emphasis on family, too much waiting on god, and having to be "spiritually compatable" with someone in addition to the usual things that some one is looking for are just some things I noticed.
Foxy Methoxy Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 If getting married didn't happen young, the odds did not seem good. That is an interesting point. It seems true for many couples. The same goes for having children. I nearly got married young, but I had so much curiosity, I couldn't commit to one woman until I was much older. So the odds on me having a successful marriage have improved with age, in my case.
Suzy Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 My husband and I have been married for 22 years. I thought we were so in love that nothing would ever separate us. I truly believed this. Then I found out in April that he was in the middle of an affair thad had been going on for two years. We were not living in the will of the Lord already, and I had become depressed before this, so the news put me over the edge and I had a serious suicide attempt. I failed, thank God, however, my husband will not let me return home. He states he has since broken off the relationship with the other woman, but still will not let me come home. Since my awakening from the attempt, I have found my Lord again, and have been striving diligently to live in His light. I have prayed and prayed for my relationship with my husband. I have made every attempt to be the wonderful wife he says he wants. I trust in the Lord. I need supporting prayers. God bless, David Wife leaving marriage for Lesbian affair About a year ago my wife told me that she had fell in love with a lesbian woman that she was trying to minister to. At first she was open and honest with me and I prayed with her and tried to be as understanding as possible. After about 6 months she said that God woke her up and she stopped seeing this woman. At that point I thought that God had restored our marriage and things were never better. She said that she loved me and promised never to see her again. To make things short, she really never let go and started texting her on Facebook. That then led her back to a full blown affair again. I know that I didn't love her the way I should and never conpletely met her needs. She is a very needy person and at one point I even gave up. I know now that that was wrong. For the last year I did learn how to love her the way Christ entended, but it wasn't enough. I have learned that a husband cannot love someone away from sin, only Christ can do that. Now I can only pray for her. We also have a 14 year old son who attends a Christian school. Please pray that Satan will release his grips on her. On the other hand, God has and is working in my life in ways that I cannot even believe. He is molding me into the man he always intended me to be. For years she prayed for this, yet now she wants no part of it. God really does work is strange ways. She has left our house now and living with her lesbian "friend". Please pray that God convicts her of her sin (she is twisting scripture) and that He brings her home and restores our marriage. Also pray that He continues doing a good work in me and that she truely sees that in my words and actions. I love this woman and would be willing to lay my life down for her. Pray for Mariage My wife and I are not getting along right now, she does not believe me that I love her. We have both done things wrong to eachother. Please Pray that God will soften her heart and try and save our marriage. Are names are Curtis and LeAnn. We both need christian counseling. Pray that we will start going to church together. Curtis Marriage heal and totally restored My husband have had several affairs on me during the time that we have been married. We have been marries for 24 yrs. I found out three yrs ago by a card in mail my mail boxes that he had fathered a child. He dont see the error of his ways he feel like if I was a better wife he never would have cheated in the marriage as many times as he did. He appear to be very angry with me to the point that I feel like its turning to hatred. He not physcial with me, he dont talk to me and he not accountable only when he choose to be. I really do love my husband and I dont want to be hurt, but I feel like I put up with alot becuase I want my marriage even verbal abuse. He has made threats of leaving several times and divorcing me, he just told me yesterday that the marriage has suffered to much and he is leaving the begining of the year. I feel like my marriage can be restored and I dont want him to leave. My husband need to be heal from lieing, unforgivness, the spirit of adultry and living a double life. He is a pastor now and he harbor all these things in his heart and he try very hard to ignore the things that he has done to damage the marriage. I want to be treated like a wife should be like Christ love the church. I believe God can do anything. Please pray! How do they know what's God's will regarding their marriage? The Biblical model of marriage is poligamy. So a husband running off with another woman wouldn't have been much of a problem in Biblical times. He would just have married that woman too or made her his concubine. And that would have been perfectly OK with God, as it was in the case of Abraham, Jacob, David, Salamon and so on. Now, a woman running off with another man (or woman, as in one of the above stories) is another story. Because women were property so they weren't allowed to do the same as men. However they could have been forced to marry whomever their father wanted them to marry. Or they could be captured in war and marry the man who killed their family. Then if they failed to please the man, they could be kicked out by him. Christians certainly don't know their Bible and what it exactly says about marriage when they put marriage on such a pedestal.
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