midniterider Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Tim Tebow is a pretty divisive player. He's seems to have become the focal point of a debate in our society (U.S.) about public faith. I don't know what to make of him. I'm not a huge football fan at all (though recently I've been getting into it thanks to the efforts of my more sporty friends) so I don't know exactly how much he flaunts his religion during games. I have seen footage of him kneeling after touchdowns and singing christian songs when prepping for plays. I kind of feel its ostentatious. And almost a little pushy. He has the right to express his faith...but I feel that many Christians like him cannot conceive that sometimes faith can be a private matter. He seems almost like a foot solider in a P.R. assault on america. Didn't Jesus tell his followers not to flaunt their faith in the streets like the pharisees anyway? If it gets people to watch football (and commercials) then it's a good thing. If people start to get turned off by his religious display then I'm sure the owner of the Broncos would be telling him to stop it. It's been good for Bill Maher and the Broncos so far. Ha.
midniterider Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 After last night's game, I think Jesus really may be smoothing the way for him... But hey, still children dying in the world. This year 'Jesus' is backing him...next year 'Jesus' might be backing the Steelers. :-) And when Tebow starts getting old and slow , watch Jesus turn his back on him. :-) The publicity of Tebow would be destroyed if ALL the football players started mimicking him. Everytime someone makes a touchdown they should cross themselves. Prior to a kick off, the kicker puts his hands together for a 5 second prayer. Tebow's opposing team all get down on their knees during a time out... :-) It could be some great fun..lol
midniterider Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Even when I was a Christian, I would find Tebow's behavior to be showboating for attention. He's crowd pleasing and putting the spotlight on himself. I would have called him a "Pharisee" because, as mentioned above, Jesus did directly warn about praying in public In Matthew 6:5 and other places. He's just trying to enhance his popularity by appealing to the evangelicals in the country and establish a niche for other marketing endeavors down the road. Think of all the millions of dollars in endorsements, or possibly the political leverage he can get because America loves a white, Jesus loving quarterback. He's practising a brand of Christianity I call "Jockianity" - jocks who find Jesus and capitalize on it. But just think of all the pussy he's missing. He could be making out like Nikki Sixx. Even if he's sneaking around, he's severely limited his options by projecting himself as the golden boy. Maybe he don't like pussy? :-)
Foxy Methoxy Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I think it was pretty cool that Tim Tebow got Jesus back into football again. 1
scitsofreaky Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I don't know what to make of him. I'm not a huge football fan at all (though recently I've been getting into it thanks to the efforts of my more sporty friends) so I don't know exactly how much he flaunts his religion during games. I have seen footage of him kneeling after touchdowns and singing christian songs when prepping for plays. He doesn't flaunt it any more than any other religious player. Many players point up (since god lives in the sky) or some other action to show their thanks for god not striking them dead before they scored, or guiding the ball into his hands, or giving him a lead block. As BrotherJosh said, the most annoying part is the media coverage. C'mon, we know he loves him some Jesus, I don't friggin' care! I understand the coverage (although I don't know how much coverage there is outside of CO) because he is an unconventional player running an unconventional offense and has won games. Frankly, when he is having a good game, e.g. last game, he can be exciting to watch (a lot more than Orton), which is worthy of coverage. But cover the games, not his faith. And if you want to know why god cares about football, here is an explanation. (Notice how persecuted Tebow is. It's so sad. )
Foxy Methoxy Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Who would Jesus support in a game of Kurt Warner vs Tim Tebow?
Guest wester Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Why I am cheering for my team? It doesn’t mean any—it doesn’t make sense. But the point is, it does make sense: it’s a way of building up irrational attitudes of submission to authority, and group cohesion behind leadership elements—in fact, it’s training in irrational jingoism. That’s also a feature of competitive sports. I think if you look closely at these things, I think, typically, they do have functions, and that’s why energy is devoted to supporting them and creating a basis for them and advertisers are willing to pay for them and so on. - Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent Yeah - and Pro football players tend to die 20 years sooner than everyone else. Cheers
bdp Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Hey Noam - some people just like sports, okay? Chomsky is an idiot. 1
older Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Even when I was a Christian, I would find Tebow's behavior to be showboating for attention. He's crowd pleasing and putting the spotlight on himself. I would have called him a "Pharisee" because, as mentioned above, Jesus did directly warn about praying in public In Matthew 6:5 and other places. He's just trying to enhance his popularity by appealing to the evangelicals in the country and establish a niche for other marketing endeavors down the road. Think of all the millions of dollars in endorsements, or possibly the political leverage he can get because America loves a white, Jesus loving quarterback. He's practising a brand of Christianity I call "Jockianity" - jocks who find Jesus and capitalize on it. He's just sowing the seeds for his post-football career. I'll bet that when he retires from the game he does one of these: runs for Congress or opens a megachurch (or both).
Guest wester Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 ROTFLMAO They who claim to be free thinkin' and just likes sports call Uncle Noam an idiot. C'est trop "rich" n'est ce pas?
Droptail Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Why I am cheering for my team? It doesn’t mean any—it doesn’t make sense. But the point is, it does make sense: it’s a way of building up irrational attitudes of submission to authority, and group cohesion behind leadership elements—in fact, it’s training in irrational jingoism. That’s also a feature of competitive sports. I think if you look closely at these things, I think, typically, they do have functions, and that’s why energy is devoted to supporting them and creating a basis for them and advertisers are willing to pay for them and so on. - Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent Chomsky's point stands that sport can be a site for spreading some very harmful social movements/attitudes. Jingoism isn't the only one; I can cite widespread instances of homophobia, sexism, nationalism, racism, religionism, etc. The element of direct competition it contains certainly lends itself to such manipulation. But as for the sports themselves, I find them quite enjoyable to play, watch, discuss, invent, etc. Don't toss the baby out with the bathwater.
Vigile Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Why I am cheering for my team? It doesn’t mean any—it doesn’t make sense. But the point is, it does make sense: it’s a way of building up irrational attitudes of submission to authority, and group cohesion behind leadership elements—in fact, it’s training in irrational jingoism. That’s also a feature of competitive sports. I think if you look closely at these things, I think, typically, they do have functions, and that’s why energy is devoted to supporting them and creating a basis for them and advertisers are willing to pay for them and so on. - Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent Chomsky's point stands that sport can be a site for spreading some very harmful social movements/attitudes. Jingoism isn't the only one; I can cite widespread instances of homophobia, sexism, nationalism, racism, religionism, etc. The element of direct competition it contains certainly lends itself to such manipulation. But as for the sports themselves, I find them quite enjoyable to play, watch, discuss, invent, etc. Don't toss the baby out with the bathwater. I can see how sports provide a venue for these tribal thinking patterns, but I'm not sure Chomsky has proven any causal relationship. Perhaps sports lets off the steam and we'd be worse off without them?
bdp Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 ROTFLMAO They who claim to be free thinkin' and just likes sports call Uncle Noam an idiot. C'est trop "rich" n'est ce pas? Noam IS an idiot - a very boring and narcissistic one - and you certainly haven't exhibited anything like intellectual acumen in your own pathetic little post. If you need any of that explained let me know. 1
bdp Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I saw a picture of Tebow from a college game - he was wearing eyeblack with 3:16 on it. He can't do that in the NFL so I think this very blatant kneeling down was a substitute for that. All for show, a commercial for his deity.
mwc Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 When I first heard the term "Tebowing" I thought it was something sexual so I obviously had to look it up. Turns out I was basically right. It appears to be a form of auto-fellatio. mwc 7
Foxy Methoxy Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 When I first heard the term "Tebowing" I thought it was something sexual so I obviously had to look it up. Turns out I was basically right. It appears to be a form of auto-fellatio. mwc FTW!
BrotherJosh Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Cheers You are right Wester. Do you have a list of pre-approved activities, interests and hobbies that I can devote my time to? Maybe I can get a smoking jacket and sit on my veranda with a nice glass of wine and harrumph at the masses?
bdp Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 You are right Wester. Do you have a list of pre-approved activities, interests and hobbies that I can devote my time to? Maybe I can get a smoking jacket and sit on my veranda with a nice glass of wine and harrumph at the masses? Yeah, I think "C'est trop "rich" n'est ce pas" means 'Sweet Jesus my farts smell GREAT today!!!!"
lunaticheathen Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I don't care about football - ok, I admit that I enjoy when the Saints do well, and that's pretty much all the news I get about it, from my NOLA friends' twitter and facebook. Of course, I have seen some Tebow news in the religious news I watch on twitter, and I just tend to go "meh." Though I did find the hoopla over some weirdos making jerseys with his number on it that said "Jesus" instead of Tebow, quite amusing. I had a good chuckle. Yet, outside of Louisiana, the "Breesus" t-shirts barely got any attention. I thought the fish made into a football was adorable. And, if I understand the football game correctly enough, Brees is actually a good player.
Foxy Methoxy Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I heard Tebow admitted he's not a virgin anymore. Because he just fucked Pittsburgh.
ireckinso Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I heard Tebow admitted he's not a virgin anymore. Because he just fucked Pittsburgh. Thats funny! I actually do not like him but I'm biased. I'm an Oakland Raider fan so me and anything Broncos is not good! It's all publicity anyway, it will probably come out that he has been sending pictures of his genitalia to some cheerleader and sleeping with strippers. I'm over it.
Paine Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I'm re-thinking my position on divine intervention. There's no other explanation for Denver beating Pittsburgh. That. Is. Fabulous. Best quote of the thread. (Even when I was a Christian, TEBOW made my AAAAAAASS ache!!! GOOoooo DAWGS!)
Paine Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I heard Tebow admitted he's not a virgin anymore. Because he just fucked Pittsburgh. Dear GAWD..... Now I am REALLY pissing my pants........ I am laughing so hard......"LOL" just SO doesn't cover it.
Bucch Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I'm not a fan of the kid. This article, especially some of the comments, were what I was thinking. The kid is just a total ass...
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