Moderator Popular Post Margee Posted February 12, 2012 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2012 It is my intention to encourage you on your journey......You wonderful young 'freethinkers' on EX-c! A few of my thoughts this morning. You are the new generation of 'rebels' who, through a lot of hard work and persecution, will have the ability to alter the world you live in. It's not going to be easy. You cannot change people and their old ways quickly - you can only influence them.... probably slowly. But please, march ahead anyway and do not be afraid to be different. You young ones have dug your head out of the sand much earlier than some of us older people and have truly opened your eyes to the fact that the world has been hypnotized and brainwashed throughout the generations. There are multitudes of people that will require you to 'conform' like the majority and believe in a christian god that doesn't give evidence of 'himself' in a world of suffering. Because you will be no longer bowing to the world, you will be bullied, harassed and ostracized for being different. You will be insulted and belittled for being a freethinker. Your journey will be hard in many ways, as you buck some of the nonsense that has been handed down since the beginning of time. In a way, you will be an 'outcast', much like the jew, the homosexual, and the black slave has been. The reason for all the 'bondage' of these dear people throughout history... is religion. You already know that. So you must fight back in a strong, gentle way. You may not be respected by your friends, co-workers or family members, but you must stay strong in your convictions. You are the new agnostics and atheists, a new brave, breed of people, rising up to stop the madness on this earth. You will be the reason the world will eventually change over the next few generations. Your own children and grandchildren will rejoice because of your efforts. They will thank you for making life a little easier for them! You must stay strong and trust your instincts that there is no talking snakes, no talking donkeys, no virgin births, no walking on water, no little devil running around in the atmosphere to destroy you and no punishing god that sets you up to fail because of the foolish doctrine and myth of 'sin' and 'fallen' man due to a woman who ate off a tree. To continue to believe this would be the same as believing in flying dragons! When in doubt, study the first couple chapters of Genesis and ask yourself if any of it makes sense to you. This will help to keep you strong on your journey. You must continue to search for the new information that the scientist presents and also, take the time to learn how all these myths started. Fill your head with all the knowledge that you can jam into it. Knowledge is your key to life-long freedom. You must be willing and brave enough to tell the older folk - 'You are wrong.' You don't need to come across as a 'rebeller' to be a free thinker. You must try to do this hard job with as much love as you can 'muster up' and stay calm and cool, as you present your 'case'. Many times, you will have to face rejection. Be prepared for this. If you fight with aggression - you will be like the rest of the world. If you are going to think differently and make a difference in the world - then you must act differently. Be kind and loving, but remain strong. Continue to influence - show the world how happy you are, having a mind of your own without all the indoctrination from the ancient bibles in the world.. You must always realize that the world is brainwashed. They are in a trance and have been deluded and lied to for centuries. Many do not want to give up their beliefs. They want to believe what their ancestors told them. The 'non-thinkers' of this world are like robots....they do what the world tells them to do. You have knowledge that they don't. Most of them are not bad people. Keep this thought close to your heart - it will help you to feel compassion for your world of friends, family, and co-workers.You must realize that it's O.K to be different. Do not cover this up with drugs and alcohol if possible. You must be stronger than the drugs or alcohol. They are a 'cover-up' to temporarily make you feel OK about yourself. Go ahead and party - but be careful not to get hooked. Let your hair down every now and again. Have a lot of fun. Remember, when you truly accept and love yourself for who you are - you will not need a false 'high' every day. Have a party everyday (without booze or drugs) ....just to celebrate yourself!!Being different means not only thinking in a 'non-conformist' way but also taking a stand at what the world considers educated, ugly, pretty, smart, etc. You must buck this system also - the 'unfalse' world of 'beauty' - the old book of rules that says you must weigh this or wear that, to be popular. A lot of depression stems from this silly system and has ruined so many young lives. Show the world that you are smarter than following this degrading structure - teach the beautiful people that they can have what you got... true confidence. So always let your 'beauty' come from within. Again I plead, do not count on your looks or your body to give you the true self-esteem you need to feel good about yourself. If you are not as pretty, handsome, skinny, etc., as the magazines or the other people in the world - do not let this throw you. Some of the most beautiful people lack the true self-esteem it takes to feel confident because they are not true to themselves. You are! Many of these dear 'beauties' count on their appearance to make it through life and they are not always happy and confident. Let your beauty always come from a confident frame of mind! This will make you shine prettier and more handsome than any of the so-called movie stars on earth or stars in the sky!!If you are still living under the roof of your believing parents, you may need to be very patient. No one can make you believe..... you already know in your young mind that you don't believe what they do. Your parents can make you do things, such as attending church, going to bible study, or saying prayers, but that’s stuff you might have to do for a while on the outside. Inside your mind, you’re free to think your own thoughts and believe what makes sense to you. This is when you may have to practice the art of 'silence' and patience. If you are depressed because you can't be who you really are while living under someone's roof, know in your heart that it won't be like this for very long. Silence can be golden at times. Learn to make 'silence' a friend for you. Right now, the part of your life that you can control is inside your mind! Also, try to remember, that your parents love you and think they are doing what is right for you. So, go forth, strong youth...... and create a new world of liberty and freedom! Be who you are! Best of love and good wishes to you as you confidently go on this journey! Love and hugs from an old member on EX-c!! 23 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Googledotman Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Ironically, I am black and gay and you mentioned both in your post. So being a freethinker is going to make me another minority? GREAT! Thanks for the post Margee. You made me believe in a better future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googledotman Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Not only that but your thoughts on beauty made me think. I have spent hundreds of dollars trying to be like the men in magazines, but I feel a little bit better about not being like that because you said something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderator Margee Posted February 12, 2012 Author Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2012 Not only that but your thoughts on beauty made me think. I have spent hundreds of dollars trying to be like the men in magazines, but I feel a little bit better about not being like that because you said something. you know Googledotman, I watch the young people and the stress they put on themselves today to want to be as pretty or handsome as their neighbour. There is nothing wrong with making the best out of what you have, but when it causes depression (as it did to me when I was growing up) there is a huge problem. I feel that the gay world is even worse because you wonderful folks are a minority in the way that there isn't as many gay people born as straight. There are a lot more straight partners to choose from. The competition is high to look good in the gay world. As a hairdresser. I have been immersed in the gay world (lucky me!!) and I watch so many of my gay friends struggle to feel good about themselves. I watch my own darling, gay boy and what he goes through to look good. I tell him all the time to just let his wonderful personality out. He struggles so bad with his weight. I watched in a grocery store line-up the other day as 3 young girls giggled together. One looked like she belonged in a model magazine and the other two were overweight and not near as pretty as the other one. You could see how they looked 'up' to her like an icon. I remember looking up to girls who were so pretty and slim. I was always chubby my whole life and it really affected my self confidence. I have been a hairdresser for 37 years and I have spent my whole life talking to people about how they feel about themselves. I did real models for a long, long, time because I used to compete in the hairstyling championships for our province. ( I did win the 'gold' in the 80's!!) I found that I had more confidence than some of these beautiful models!! Do your best to stay healthy, get a nice haircut, workout at the gym a couple of times aweek...nothing wrong with that......But don't let it be your whole life. Be you! Shine! You will attract more sincere people that way. You want sincere friendships and relationships. If these are built on 'looks', they can end up being shallow. Relationships has to endure messy hair, weight gains and farting!! You go and let your black, gay light shine hon!! Show the world it's not all about looks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConureDelSol Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 This has resonated with me and only makes me more proud to be a freethinker, even if I can't express that as publicly as I want to right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephie Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thankies Margie! You just encouraged me a ton! Practicing silence is so difficult but I know that my situation is only temporary 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted February 13, 2012 Super Moderator Share Posted February 13, 2012 Good post, Margee! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpudd1n Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 That was beautiful, Margee And you are spot-on about attractive people. I am tall and thin with D-cups, and my face is frequently described as beautiful. But it is a curse. It really is. In the workplace I am judged a bimbo,and three times I have been hired based on my looks. I have to work so hard to prove myself. Friendships with both sexes have always been difficult. So many girls reject me because they think I am out to steal their boyfriends/partners, and I have never done so in my life- it goes against my own morals. It has just become far too difficult to have male friends- too often, they get the wrong idea, if they are straight. If I go out, I get hit on, even though I'm wearing an engagement ring- for some reason, there is an assumption that I am a loose woman because of how I look. I rarely wear make-up anymore. I don't wear high-heels, I cover-up... I just want to be seen and respected for the person I am. And then I get comments about going and eating a cheeseburger. I can't help how thin I am. I am on medication that should put weight on me, but it doesn't. I don't exercise. I eat full-fat, full-cream, and nothing diet (except milk- full-cream milk just doesn't sit right in my tummy). I eat a whole pizza in one sitting, and I eat a LOT. I eat chocolate all day long. I eat a big meal just before bed. I should not be thin, but I am. The only way I've found to deal with all this to have witty comebacks all the time. But deep-down, it does hurt. I look forward to ageing. Maybe then people will start to see me as a person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asanerman Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 It is my intention to encourage you on your journey......You wonderful young 'freethinkers' on EX-c! A few of my thoughts this morning. Best of love and good wishes to you as you confidently go on this journey! And to think that an unbeliever has lost heart and soul! Kudos Margee! "Don't gasp! It is not the unbelieving who invite "damnation" but the unloving." ~J. Fletcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 And then I get comments about going and eating a cheeseburger. I can't help how thin I am. I am on medication that should put weight on me, but it doesn't. I don't exercise. I eat full-fat, full-cream, and nothing diet (except milk- full-cream milk just doesn't sit right in my tummy). I eat a whole pizza in one sitting, and I eat a LOT. I eat chocolate all day long. I eat a big meal just before bed. I should not be thin, but I am. Just so you know, it never ends. You just have to smile and ignore it. I think it's just as rude as people who always rip on fat people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpudd1n Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 And then I get comments about going and eating a cheeseburger. I can't help how thin I am. I am on medication that should put weight on me, but it doesn't. I don't exercise. I eat full-fat, full-cream, and nothing diet (except milk- full-cream milk just doesn't sit right in my tummy). I eat a whole pizza in one sitting, and I eat a LOT. I eat chocolate all day long. I eat a big meal just before bed. I should not be thin, but I am. Just so you know, it never ends. You just have to smile and ignore it. I think it's just as rude as people who always rip on fat people. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadesofgray Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thank you so much Margee! That was exactly what I needed to hear today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivingLife Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Margee, your post sounds pretty much like the jesus sermon of I have overcome the world, folk hated me, etc. IMO, if jesus existed, he likely would have been a member here telling off the frigging woos as we do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thank you Margee, and I am proud to call myself a young rebel! I agree completely with what you said about being to be ready to defend your position. I was at a "once saved always saved" christain adult friend's house, just a few months ago, and they started the nonbeliever bashing at the dinner table. They didn't know I had recently deconverted so, after listening to them for an hour or so, I came out of the closet publicly for the fist time. They apologized for making some of the coments they did about athiests, but one of them then asked me why I didn't believe anymore. I was not ready for this and so we rambled on for two hours in a long drawn out debate about sin, hell, biblical history, and good without god. At one point I brought up the part in Genises where it says plants were created before the sun. That stumped her, and like most christains she wanted me to read about eight or so, five inch thick, books writen by christian theologists that are supposed to answer my questions(AKA: make me their zombie slaaaaave! lol). Anyway to cut a long story short I couldn't convince them I was right (suprise suprise), but they have never questioned me again. And to all the other young Xains, those people respect me, and my beliefs more than ever now that we went to the mat over them. So don't ever back down because you don't think you're smart or mature enough to argue with an adult, the very fact that you didn't let them walk all over you will drive them to respect you. Just to drive the point home I am not going to use spellcheck on this post to show that I am not afraid of making mistakes and not knowing the aswers to everything... (Yes I know I am horrible at spelling.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted February 13, 2012 Author Moderator Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thank you Margee, and I am proud to call myself a young rebel! I agree completely with what you said about being to be ready to defend your position. I was at a "once saved always saved" christain adult friend's house, just a few months ago, and they started the nonbeliever bashing at the dinner table. They didn't know I had recently deconverted so, after listening to them for an hour or so, I came out of the closet publicly for the fist time. They apologized for making some of the coments they did about athiests, but one of them then asked me why I didn't believe anymore. I was not ready for this and so we rambled on for two hours in a long drawn out debate about sin, hell, biblical history, and good without god. At one point I brought up the part in Genises where it says plants were created before the sun. That stumped her, and like most christains she wanted me to read about eight or so, five inch thick, books writen by christian theologists that are supposed to answer my questions(AKA: make me their zombie slaaaaave! lol). Anyway to cut a long story short I couldn't convince them I was right (suprise suprise), but they have never questioned me again. And to all the other young Xains, those people respect me, and my beliefs more than ever now that we went to the mat over them. So don't ever back down because you don't think you're smart or mature enough to argue with an adult, the very fact that you didn't let them walk all over you will drive them to respect you. Just to drive the point home I am not going to use spellcheck on this post to show that I am not afraid of making mistakes and not knowing the aswers to everything... (Yes I know I am horrible at spelling.) Bravo to you young people!! I loved your story!! You have taught me a great lesson here today my friend!! It takes me forever to make a post because I am a rotten speller and i have to constantly look up words to make my post 'perfect'!! What bullshit!!! all because we want to be sooo perfect!! (I'm going to leave the little i today!!) you have taught me well today!! another thing...did god really create plants before the sun???? I have to go check that out!!! Thank YOU for your help today!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephie Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thank you Margee, and I am proud to call myself a young rebel! I agree completely with what you said about being to be ready to defend your position. I was at a "once saved always saved" christain adult friend's house, just a few months ago, and they started the nonbeliever bashing at the dinner table. They didn't know I had recently deconverted so, after listening to them for an hour or so, I came out of the closet publicly for the fist time. They apologized for making some of the coments they did about athiests, but one of them then asked me why I didn't believe anymore. I was not ready for this and so we rambled on for two hours in a long drawn out debate about sin, hell, biblical history, and good without god. At one point I brought up the part in Genises where it says plants were created before the sun. That stumped her, and like most christains she wanted me to read about eight or so, five inch thick, books writen by christian theologists that are supposed to answer my questions(AKA: make me their zombie slaaaaave! lol). Anyway to cut a long story short I couldn't convince them I was right (suprise suprise), but they have never questioned me again. And to all the other young Xains, those people respect me, and my beliefs more than ever now that we went to the mat over them. So don't ever back down because you don't think you're smart or mature enough to argue with an adult, the very fact that you didn't let them walk all over you will drive them to respect you. Just to drive the point home I am not going to use spellcheck on this post to show that I am not afraid of making mistakes and not knowing the aswers to everything... (Yes I know I am horrible at spelling.) You are brave I'm not yet to the point where I will tell my parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 @Zephie Not as much as might think. My mom is not a christain anymore, but my dad is. So maybe I am half brave. Also in my first year of leaving "the faith" I went to bible study and everything, but on the inside I was not there, so I was not brave enough to come out for a long time too. Don't feel bad if you haven't told anyone yet, I'm sure you will get there soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 @Zephie Not as much as might think. My mom is not a christain anymore, but my dad is. So maybe I am half brave. Also in my first year of leaving "the faith" I went to bible study and everything, but on the inside I was not there, so I was not brave enough to come out for a long time too. Don't feel bad if you haven't told anyone yet, I'm sure you will get there soon. I still do all of those things like church attendance and bible study; my mind is definitely not there either. I won't come out to my parents until I move out and then only when I feel the need to do so. Thankies for the encouragement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah I know how that feels... the constant reminder that you don't have any money, and can't travel long distances, or really do anything these days, without your parents signed permission. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah I know how that feels... the constant reminder that you don't have any money, and can't travel long distances, or really do anything these days, without your parents signed permission. *sigh* It feels that way even though I'm almost 29. I live at home because of the economy at the moment. As soon as I can support myself I'm outa there. I love my parents just don't agree with them on their religion anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted February 14, 2012 Author Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah I know how that feels... the constant reminder that you don't have any money, and can't travel long distances, or really do anything these days, without your parents signed permission. *sigh* It feels that way even though I'm almost 29. I live at home because of the economy at the moment. As soon as I can support myself I'm outa there. I love my parents just don't agree with them on their religion anymore. I couldn't wait to get out of my mothers house (at 19) and get my own place and it had nothing to do with religion.I just wanted my independence. I feel that most young people are ready by at least mid 20's to spread their wings and fly'on their own. I wanted to 'run my own show' and I couldn't do it under my mom's roof. Do what it takes. If it's a job at 'Mcdonalds' for the time being - do it. Youngins' - if you want it bad enough - you will do what it takes to gain the independance that you desire. It's out there waiting for you..... What seems to be the problems that you feel you are up against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah I know how that feels... the constant reminder that you don't have any money, and can't travel long distances, or really do anything these days, without your parents signed permission. *sigh* It feels that way even though I'm almost 29. I live at home because of the economy at the moment. As soon as I can support myself I'm outa there. I love my parents just don't agree with them on their religion anymore. I couldn't wait to get out of my mothers house (at 19) and get my own place and it had nothing to do with religion.I just wanted my independence. I feel that most young people are ready by at least mid 20's to spread their wings and fly'on their own. I wanted to 'run my own show' and I couldn't do it under my mom's roof. Do what it takes. If it's a job at 'Mcdonalds' for the time being - do it. Youngins' - if you want it bad enough - you will do what it takes to gain the independance that you desire. It's out there waiting for you..... What seems to be the problems that you feel you are up against? I have a job that pays just above minimum wage in may state. I'm working on my alternative teacher certification so I can get a teaching job out of state. Hopefully, I can move out in a few months...should that fall through I'll get a 2nd job if I have to in order to move out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted February 14, 2012 Author Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have a job that pays just above minimum wage in may state. I'm working on my alternative teacher certification so I can get a teaching job out of state. Hopefully, I can move out in a few months...should that fall through I'll get a 2nd job if I have to in order to move out. You go girl!!! good for you! Sounds like a great plan of action you have. Smart!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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