Guest end3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 25 to 30%.....Really? GOD only asks for 10. It's just my humble opinion that 30 f'n percent , 30 F'N PERCENT is too damn much just to whack of the top for the blessed liberal agenda. I mean crap, if I spent 30K out of every 100K on just general spending, why isn't our economy going well. What I am saying is let me spend my 30% on the crap that would one, make me happy (freedom of happiness), and two, bolster the economy in the interim. For example, a new vehicle, 30K, would provide a shit load of jobs. So where's my 30K going? Defense I can live with, some welfare I can live with. National debt and a myriad of other crap I can't, i.e. first lady vacations. political flights back and forth. And Romney has a 15% effective tax rate on 7,000,000 bucks while i'm paying 25-30%? REALLY? For what, the liability of some litigation happy lawyer asswipe. The stress, the hours?? I'm about ready to Nanny-up. Where do I sign for my free check Obama? Oh, and don't forget my healthcare. But I am likely to be fined for not purchasing it 'cause now I don't got no jobba. Signed, Thinking about becoming a criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted April 4, 2012 Super Moderator Share Posted April 4, 2012 25 to 30%.....Really? GOD only asks for 10. But God gives absolutely nothing in return 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wester Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah -- just be glad you didn't live in the liberal horrorshow of the mega-liberal nightmare of the uber-liberal Eisenhower administration when the rate was a liberal 90%. If I were you, sir, I'd go on and pony up for your required standard american non-collectivized Pfizer corp tax, payable at the local walgreens which you can get to by paying your gas tax to Exxon, cuz I think if you met an honest-to-god liberal human, your ticker might stop. Cheers and good day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah -- just be glad you didn't live in the liberal horrorshow of the mega-liberal nightmare of the uber-liberal Eisenhower administration when the rate was a liberal 90%. If I were you, sir, I'd go on and pony up for your required standard american non-collectivized Pfizer corp tax, payable at the local walgreens which you can get to by paying your gas tax to Exxon, cuz I think if you met an honest-to-god liberal human, your ticker might stop. Cheers and good day That one existed would be your point? Thanks, I'll bank on my rant, my f'n 10% that's left, cuzz I already paid for the honest to god liberal. Have a drink on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thackerie Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah -- just be glad you didn't live in the liberal horrorshow of the mega-liberal nightmare of the uber-liberal Eisenhower administration when the rate was a liberal 90%. If I were you, sir, I'd go on and pony up for your required standard american non-collectivized Pfizer corp tax, payable at the local walgreens which you can get to by paying your gas tax to Exxon, cuz I think if you met an honest-to-god liberal human, your ticker might stop. Cheers and good day Well said! And oh so true! (Oops, now another librul-hater is going to come by and accuse us of "group think." Oh. Well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah -- just be glad you didn't live in the liberal horrorshow of the mega-liberal nightmare of the uber-liberal Eisenhower administration when the rate was a liberal 90%. If I were you, sir, I'd go on and pony up for your required standard american non-collectivized Pfizer corp tax, payable at the local walgreens which you can get to by paying your gas tax to Exxon, cuz I think if you met an honest-to-god liberal human, your ticker might stop. Cheers and good day Don't mistake me for a wing nut here, but despite the fact the rate was once theoretically 90%, I seriously doubt anyone ever paid that rate. I've yet to see any evidence to support this. Nominal rates are always reduced by various other factors, including shelters, various types of income (e.g., interest is taxed differently than wages, etc...). I'll also join with the tax protesters here and balk at any rate hikes until the government is no longer of the crony capitalist variety. Why should anyone, including those who are substantially better off than your average middle class person be forced to pay for government hand outs to the military industrial complex, billionaire farmers in the form of subsidies, local pork projects, etc... If the people of the country were truly getting something in return for their dollars that justified tax hikes I'd sing a different tune, but no way in hell does it cost upwards of 30% of the salaries of every working person in the country to pay for bridges, highways and other infrastructure items -- hell, most of this stuff is paid for with state and local taxes anyway. Since the country does not provide for health care and a number of other social programs that citizens of comparable countries receive for their tax dollars and the bulk of the money is spent based on the direction of lobbyists who have the ears and the balls of our politicians, people need to tell the government to fuck off and reform before they acquiesce to hikes paying down deficits that were run up because the US can't stop starting new wars or bailing out fraudulent financial institutions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah -- just be glad you didn't live in the liberal horrorshow of the mega-liberal nightmare of the uber-liberal Eisenhower administration when the rate was a liberal 90%. If I were you, sir, I'd go on and pony up for your required standard american non-collectivized Pfizer corp tax, payable at the local walgreens which you can get to by paying your gas tax to Exxon, cuz I think if you met an honest-to-god liberal human, your ticker might stop. Cheers and good day Don't mistake me for a wing nut here, but despite the fact the rate was once theoretically 90%, I seriously doubt anyone ever paid that rate. I've yet to see any evidence to support this. Nominal rates are always reduced by various other factors, including shelters, various types of income (e.g., interest is taxed differently than wages, etc...). I'll also join with the tax protesters here and balk at any rate hikes until the government is no longer of the crony capitalist variety. Why should anyone, including those who are substantially better off than your average middle class person be forced to pay for government hand outs to the military industrial complex, billionaire farmers in the form of subsidies, local pork projects, etc... If the people of the country were truly getting something in return for their dollars that justified tax hikes I'd sing a different tune, but no way in hell does it cost upwards of 30% of the salaries of every working person in the country to pay for bridges, highways and other infrastructure items. Since the country does not provide for health care and a number of other social programs that citizens of comparable countries receive for their tax dollars and the bulk of the money is spent based on the direction of lobbyists who have the ears and the balls of our politicians, people need to tell the government to fuck off and reform before they acquiesce to hikes paying down deficits that were run up because the US can't stop starting new wars or bailing out fraudulent financial institutions. Thank you. Literally 10 to 20 percent left for a wheelbarrow full of liability, loss of sleep, etc....for what, My intentions are not to deny anyone an equal opportunity, but the reality is, once you get a bigger check coming in, it takes more effort to remain as we all tout before the checks come in. Greed and fear don't seem to discriminate. Just saying 30% is damn near a break-even point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Valk0010 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't get it why everybody just can't be allowed to vote on taxes. Taxation is theft unless its democratic. And if you don't want to be in the good you can't reap from the group. Why that is so hard for some to understand, I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Valk0010 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't get it why everybody just can't be allowed to vote on taxes. Taxation is theft unless its democratic. And if you don't want to be in the good you can't reap from the group. Why that is so hard for some to understand, I dunno. Actually there are some states that do require the citizens to vote on them. In Colorado, they perhaps have the best law when it comes to taxes. It is called "Taxpayer Bill of Rights" or "TABOR" shortened. It basically states that 1) Any new tax or tax rate increases MUST go on a public referendum for the taxpayers to approve or not approve. 2) Any new spending that goes above the rate of inflation plus population increase must also go on a public referendum for the voters to vote on. 3) After a large rainy day fund is full, ALL tax surpluses MUST be refunded back to the taxpayers. Here is a link explaining it: http://en.wikipedia...._Bill_of_Rights ohhh I likey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 25 to 30%.....Really? GOD only asks for 10. It's just my humble opinion that 30 f'n percent , 30 F'N PERCENT is too damn much just to whack of the top for the blessed liberal agenda. I mean crap, if I spent 30K out of every 100K on just general spending, why isn't our economy going well. Can you imagine that I come from a country where I paid 67% before I immigrated to a "low tax" country (USA)... and now I can't really move. I'm like the "rain man" but for taxes. And Romney has a 15% effective tax rate on 7,000,000 bucks while i'm paying 25-30%? REALLY? Because his job is to try to manipulate the system to help him, the same system that screws you and me. That's what politicians do. Thinking about becoming a criminal You mean "politician". They're the same. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know I get your sentiment here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted April 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted April 4, 2012 Oh my dear friend, end...........we must render unto Caesar, what is Caesar's.... the bible tells us so......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Oh my dear friend, end...........we must render unto Caesar, what is Caesar's.... the bible tells us so......... Hey, don't pick on me Ms. Margee . Truthfully, I have thought about the verse that says if more is given to you, more is expected. You can see how well I am doing with it. But, what the heck. I'd rather die poor and be remembered as rich, than die rich and remembered as greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 25 to 30%.....Really? GOD only asks for 10. It's just my humble opinion that 30 f'n percent , 30 F'N PERCENT is too damn much just to whack of the top for the blessed liberal agenda. I mean crap, if I spent 30K out of every 100K on just general spending, why isn't our economy going well. Can you imagine that I come from a country where I paid 67% before I immigrated to a "low tax" country (USA)... and now I can't really move. I'm like the "rain man" but for taxes. And Romney has a 15% effective tax rate on 7,000,000 bucks while i'm paying 25-30%? REALLY? Because his job is to try to manipulate the system to help him, the same system that screws you and me. That's what politicians do. Thinking about becoming a criminal You mean "politician". They're the same. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know I get your sentiment here... Yes sir, whether it's healthcare, food, whatever, it all seems interconnected. I don't see population control being a solution, and I don't see socialism as one either, so I'm still thinking. Truthfully, I think capitalism is the best compromise to morality vs. freedom, but when population becomes and variable in the equation, it gets tricky. Waiting for your program to spit out the solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pratt Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Oh my dear friend, end...........we must render unto Caesar, what is Caesar's.... the bible tells us so......... Margee oh margee how evil can you be,,,,,, it is the obedience to the authorities that God has placed fornthe americans that they have to pay the hefty tax for the decadence happening in USA,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Waiting for your program to spit out the solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 30 F'N PERCENT is too damn much just to whack of the top for the blessed liberal agenda. Oh no, it's the "liberal agenda"! {shudders} All that tax money the libs are robbing from us to turn straights gay, kill unborn fetuses and teach evolution in our schools instead of creationism. It's criminal! Lets get real.........BOTH parties spend money like drunken sailors in a Tijuana whorehouse, and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head so far up their ass the lack of oxygen has killed off the last of their remaining brain cells. Taxes suck. So does big government. But lets not kid ourselves into thinking that one of these parties actually has our best interests as Americans in mind - they don't! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yeah, I'm so sick of people claiming that their tax money is paying for liberals. So I guess it is physically impossible for a conservative to be on welfare??? Give me a break, turn Fox news off! Anyone who pays taxes gets it all dumped into the big pool of money and redistributed to each fund. Your .00008 cents that went to welfare this year, if even that much, ain't buying anyone any drugs. True, that big, uncaring government and high, misused tax money doe no one any good. Ethical government and a reasonable amount of taxes do work. It's just too bad we don't have that in the USA. But at least we don't have a 55% personal incom tax rate like Belgium. The highest in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world In the end, we do get something for our money. We are not constantly invaded by other countries. We don't have to bury our poop in the back yard. Someone takes the rotting garbage away each week. Children are allegedly educated by public schools. I'm not in favor of a corrupt out of control government, but government does make our lives better everyday. If you can never see the good things government does, and you only see the bad things, you can never look ahead at change. You end up being trapped in the eternal complaining. You never participate in change. It's just like prayer, completely useless on every level. And if you don't want to vote for better taxes, then moving to Korea might lift your financial woes some. I agree with Mike, BOTH parties suck. Trust neither. I say vote for the best choice you can, or start your own petition to change the laws. just complaining=praying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest end3 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 A bloody revolution might fit the solution.... Yeah, crap, if a person wants to just drop off the map and live life independently, that's not possible. They will come and find you I'm betting......taxing you on the space your body is occupying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Can you imagine that I come from a country where I paid 67% before I immigrated to a "low tax" country (USA)... and now I can't really move. I'm like the "rain man" but for taxes. So, like the rain man you can only afford a suit from K-mart, but they went bankrupt? Oh well, K-mart sucks. lol http://www.larelybeagle.com/2009/07/01/kmart-sues-rain-man-for-slander-over-kmart-sucks-comment/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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