mcdaddy Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Well I took a pic with my phone but can't get it to upload. Anyways, I'm at church with the wife this morning, and I cannot freaking believe what I saw in the foyer. They installed a damn kiosk (looks like an ATM you'd see at a gas station) to give your hard earned money to the church at. Really?!!! I'll try to get the pic up later. It's unbelievable. We also have an online portal, an app, automatic debit.....damn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrth Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Well I took a pic with my phone but can't get it to upload. Anyways, I'm at church with the wife this morning, and I cannot freaking believe what I saw in the foyer. They installed a damn kiosk (looks like an ATM you'd see at a gas station) to give your hard earned money to the church at. Really?!!! I'll try to get the pic up later. It's unbelievable. We also have an online portal, an app, automatic debit.....damn. Ha, really? A Tithing ATM?! rofl. This must be a mega-church or something, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted April 22, 2012 Moderator Share Posted April 22, 2012 doesn't surprize me in the least......I'm surprized they don't have a lotto ticket booth where any winners could dedicate their money to the church............ Maybe even a gambling casino....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 Nah, it's not THAT big of a church. Medium sized I'd say. I finally convinced the wife to stop giving 5K plus a year to em so we could pay off our massive school debt. It's funny, sermon today was on getting out of debt. All I kept thinking was "stop giving 10% of the gross to your pastor and you'll get out a hell of a lot faster". Of course they still want their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybaris Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Bernie Madhoff pales in comparison to organized religion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deva Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Its the truth, Sybaris. Even if we grant Christianity is true (a big stretch, I know). There is no way it makes sense that an almighty God would need your money. Giving your money doesn't get you brownie points either (I see Buddhists falling into this trap) to give you "merit" or make you special in some way. People who give money to the church or other religious organizations are not better off than those who don't. In fact, they are obviously the poorer for it, at least financially. If it were otherwise, EVERYONE would be tithing, and it would be a hell of a lot more than 10% and the churches/temples, etc. would be full every week. This crazy kiosk thing just panders to the insanely speeded up lives we are expected to live in the U.S. just to be able to have a friggin roof over our heads and food to eat. No one has time to do anything, and the church has to have volunteers to count the money and they probably can't get them, so the damn ATM does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverAgainV Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Bernie Madhoff pales in comparison to organized religion. Voted that up! so true!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriptor Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Wow. You can pay your tithes with debit? New low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Next thing, open a credit line with the church and pay of your future tithing with 30% interest (because you'll reap 30, 60, 100 fold etc..). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrth Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Wow. You can pay your tithes with debit? New low. With credit too, maybe? Can you imagine? lol. "Faith in Christ Church Forecloses on Parishioners" rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriptor Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Wow. You can pay your tithes with debit? New low. With credit too, maybe? Can you imagine? lol. "Faith in Christ Church Forecloses on Parishioners" rofl I wouldn't be entirely surprised lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephie Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I remember one church we went to had a credit/debit machine so people could use their cards. I think they also had it set up to do automatic drafts. *shivers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 I remember one church we went to had a credit/debit machine so people could use their cards. I think they also had it set up to do automatic drafts. *shivers* That's exactly what it is!!!!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 The hilarious thing is, there's a button on there where you can give an "anonymous donation".....as if they wouldn't then have your card info and be able to find out who gave. But, its IN THE FOYER WHERE EVERYONE CAN SEE!!!!!! Not exactly anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivist Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 It's funny, sermon today was on getting out of debt. All I kept thinking was "stop giving 10% of the gross to your pastor and you'll get out a hell of a lot faster". Of course they still want their money. Ugh. I don't miss this about church. "Pay off your debts! Pay us!" They should have a sermon on "the borrower is servant to the lender" and encourage everyone to pay off their debts before they tithe. Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and all that.... It totally cracks me up that you're surfing this site while at church! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Honest Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 If you REALLY want to have fun with the pastors and the 'Holier-than-thou' crowd, ask them where it says in the new testament that it is REQUIRED that Christians tithe. If they run to Matthew, Mark or any of the gospels...where Jesus was talking about money...the church did not exist YET. Remember, Hebrews Chapt 9, "The death of the testator"....the end of the law...Tithing is from the law...LOL...... It sends them into a tizzy...then they start going through all kinds of mental gymnastics to try to justify it....and when you simply say..."Book, Chapter, Verse"....they will get red faced and call you an eeeeeeeeeek.....A HERETIC!!!!!........ Back before I left...I brought this up to a bible study group and the head of it, well...I found out he spent a few sleepless nights researching it.....ROFLMAO!!!!.......... You beat me to it - the church cannot possibly back up their belief in tithing even with their own book! It is not "scriptural" according to the "New Covenant". It really all comes down to paying the bills. Once you've got the building, the staff, the utilities, etc, it's a monster that must be fed. So they must find a way to theologically sell the concept. Many of the churches where we live have ATM's and auto billing - it is a pretty common thing around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivist Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Many of the churches where we live have ATM's and auto billing - it is a pretty common thing around here. You know what I find just amazing? Ex-Christian.net doesn't beg for money like churches do. They do offer a way for members to send in money, but it's like less than 1% of the amount I gave to the church annually. I cringe when any group wants money, but Ex-Christian.net seems to know this is a sore spot for us ex-tithers. Supporting Ex-Christian.net is waaaaaay cheaper than church, cheaper than a monthly Starbucks, and cheaper and more effective than counseling (at least in my case ). Words cannot express how grateful I am for Ex-Christian.net! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Well I took a pic with my phone but can't get it to upload. Anyways, I'm at church with the wife this morning, and I cannot freaking believe what I saw in the foyer. They installed a damn kiosk (looks like an ATM you'd see at a gas station) to give your hard earned money to the church at. Really?!!! I'll try to get the pic up later. It's unbelievable. We also have an online portal, an app, automatic debit.....damn. They could a add a bucket to drop your wallets into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereticzero Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The church must be doing well. ATM places are charged a fee--that's what I've been told--so, if the church has an ATM, they are making some bucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 Ok let me clarify. It wasnt an actual ATM it just looked like one. You swipe your card and the church gets your money. Tax free of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalWreck Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well I took a pic with my phone but can't get it to upload. Anyways, I'm at church with the wife this morning, and I cannot freaking believe what I saw in the foyer. They installed a damn kiosk (looks like an ATM you'd see at a gas station) to give your hard earned money to the church at. Really?!!! I'll try to get the pic up later. It's unbelievable. We also have an online portal, an app, automatic debit.....damn. This is just sad, but not surprising. Churches will do ANYTHING to get your money. I guess they figure you can't use the "I don't have any cash on me for the collection plate" excuse when they've got a machine ready to swipe your plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpudd1n Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I've been in churches that had ATM's. They also had holes in the bottom of the tithing buckets, and tithing envelopes that you could write down your credit card info. You know, gotta cover all the bases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConureDelSol Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 This thread just reminded me that I payed way more than 10% of my paycheck ever since my HOURS GOT CUT. You want me to give $20 a week? HA, try $10 FUCKERS! Can't wait till I don't have to work here and not have giving my hard-earned money to the church be mandatory... I'm guessing the ATM is so people won't keep taking their share out of the offerings basket. Now the church does it for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Wow I actually predicted this about 4 years ago! I remember watching something on TV about how megachurches hire MBA's and business consultants to map out their "business model" to maximize "revenues" (i.e. tithes), and I made a flip comment to someone about how soon they'll start direct debit to your checking account, and install a tithing kiosk in the lobby. So I can't say I am surprised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpudd1n Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Wow I actually predicted this about 4 years ago! I remember watching something on TV about how megachurches hire MBA's and business consultants to map out their "business model" to maximize "revenues" (i.e. tithes), and I made a flip comment to someone about how soon they'll start direct debit to your checking account, and install a tithing kiosk in the lobby. So I can't say I am surprised! ...I was talking about churches I was in from 2003-2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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