mcdaddy Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So another amigo of mine from high school died today at 32. (the first one passed 3 months ago, I was VERY close to him, this guy today not as much, but still knew him, good guy). He had just turned into a super xian a few years ago and had moved to louisiana and I think was a youth and/or music pastor. Here's the kicker: he had FOUR young kids. FUCKING FOUR. What kind of god would allow one of his groupies to die and leave four kids fatherless? Maybe they'll eventually see that if one exists at all, it's deist at best. Feel so terrible for them. And his brother, who's an atheist btw. He's who I came out to first about my nonbelief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivist Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Oh that is so sad! :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzie Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So sad :-( there have been a few young people die that I know too- a guy I knew from uni passed away from cancer 2 days ago, he'd only just gotten married :-( he was 22. Then a couple of weeks ago a nurse from my hospital was killed in a hit and run, she was 53 and apparently one of the most caring, friendly nurses in the hospital :-( Sorry for your loss mcdaddy :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnaNymity Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm so sorry for your loss mcdaddy! Hang in there. <hugs> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openpalm45 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 *HUGS* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalWreck Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So another amigo of mine from high school died today at 32. (the first one passed 3 months ago, I was VERY close to him, this guy today not as much, but still knew him, good guy). He had just turned into a super xian a few years ago and had moved to louisiana and I think was a youth and/or music pastor. Here's the kicker: he had FOUR young kids. FUCKING FOUR. What kind of god would allow one of his groupies to die and leave four kids fatherless? Maybe they'll eventually see that if one exists at all, it's deist at best. Feel so terrible for them. And his brother, who's an atheist btw. He's who I came out to first about my nonbelief. This is what I don't understand either. What kind of a sick twisted "god" would do this to his followers and what's the point of worshipping a "god" who would be that cruel? Of course the fundies will defend "god" and give the tired ass "God has his reasons" and "Now he's in a better place" horseshit, nevermind the fact that four kids now have to suffer and grow up fatherless. How did your friend die so young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ ficino ♦ Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I saw an allusion to someone's death on your FB, and I figured you'd say more here. I am very sorry to hear that you've suffered another loss this year, and it is truly a tragedy for his family. I noticed on FB that a lot of people were talking about prayers. I'm wondering whether that makes you feel even worse; it would make me feel worse in a similar situation, though we realize it's a reflexive way that indoctrinated people try to express their real empathy. Hugs from me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 So another amigo of mine from high school died today at 32. (the first one passed 3 months ago, I was VERY close to him, this guy today not as much, but still knew him, good guy). He had just turned into a super xian a few years ago and had moved to louisiana and I think was a youth and/or music pastor. Here's the kicker: he had FOUR young kids. FUCKING FOUR. What kind of god would allow one of his groupies to die and leave four kids fatherless? Maybe they'll eventually see that if one exists at all, it's deist at best. Feel so terrible for them. And his brother, who's an atheist btw. He's who I came out to first about my nonbelief. This is what I don't understand either. What kind of a sick twisted "god" would do this to his followers and what's the point of worshipping a "god" who would be that cruel? Of course the fundies will defend "god" and give the tired ass "God has his reasons" and "Now he's in a better place" horseshit, nevermind the fact that four kids now have to suffer and grow up fatherless. How did your friend die so young? I haven't gotten specifics yet but it's either heat stroke or heart attack or both. Could hardly sleep last night just thinking about those poor kids. I don't know them or his wife but the situation is the worst kind of terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser01 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 God has a plan right?!? I mean obviously this is a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 I saw an allusion to someone's death on your FB, and I figured you'd say more here. I am very sorry to hear that you've suffered another loss this year, and it is truly a tragedy for his family. I noticed on FB that a lot of people were talking about prayers. I'm wondering whether that makes you feel even worse; it would make me feel worse in a similar situation, though we realize it's a reflexive way that indoctrinated people try to express their real empathy. Hugs from me, too. Thanks Fic. It doesn't really bother me, I just look at it as kind of sad that so many people still choose to worship a deity that would allow shit like this. When it would take 0 effort to prevent it. Not that that's even a major reason I don't believe- I can handle deism. It's theism that is wildly irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Thanks everyone for your thoughts and kind comments though. Love y'all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will02 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm sorry for your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrailBlazer Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 so sorry to hear about this loss McDaddy. At times like these its hard for our hearts not to go out to the family. What kind of god lets this happen? The kind of god that isn't interested in interfering with human lives; who neither curses nor blesses us and neither provides nor denies. The kind of god that must be sought after but never found, the kind of god who isn't really a god at all, but perhaps could become a rallying point for compassion and healing in times of tragedy like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator buffettphan Posted July 21, 2012 Super Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm so sorry for your loss. This seems to be the week for losses. A good friend of my son's died this week after her second bout with cancer. She was 38. Her poor husband is a mess right now... and their kids...... I don't even want to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted July 21, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2012 I too am so sorry for another loss you must face Mcdaddy. This is so sad to hear ...so young.... I am sitting here and thinking back in my mind at how I justified this as a christian. I would have said somrthing like god having his reasons and it would end up like the "Job'' story, where the wife and 4 children will be 'blessed' abundantly within time. I'm so embarrased that I even thought this way....but I did. That is what they'll say. But we know better.... Life can be an extremley unfair place. At least we understand that the 'natural' world can be both beautiful and cruel....... Again, I am so sorry..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted July 21, 2012 Super Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2012 Sorry for your loss, again. These things become more common in time, but they don't get easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Thx Flor & Marg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith666 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 XX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akheia Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 <3 you, man. I'm sorry to hear about another friend gone. Don't let the turkeys get you down on FB... people never know what to say about this kind of loss, so they start talking like idiots. I'm sure they mean well. I hope the widow and children will be all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 <3 you, man. I'm sorry to hear about another friend gone. Don't let the turkeys get you down on FB... people never know what to say about this kind of loss, so they start talking like idiots. I'm sure they mean well. I hope the widow and children will be all right. Tyvm Ak. I put up another thread re: how to help the surviving family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryBerry Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I am sorry to hear about the death of your friend. The fundies would say " God's way are higher than our ways." Why would God need a young father of four in heaven? How can Christian explain that. Anyway, sorry about you loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BendyLine Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 My condolences, brother. About ten years ago, I had a friend die in an apartment fire. This guy was one of the most popular guys at the small university I went to at the time, but it was the kind of popularity that came from being a genuinely nice person. He was smart, made top grades, and was just a real pleasure to be around. It was a real tragedy when he passed. I was a Christian when I knew him, but I think if someone had told me it was part of God's plan I would have really been pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpudd1n Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Damn, that sucks, dude. Those poor kidlets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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