Popular Post ★ Citsonga ★ Posted July 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2012 The other day I got this email forwarded to me by my mother: Boston Mayor Vows To Block Chick-Fil-A From Opening Restaurant After Anti-Gay Remarks AP | Posted: 07/20/2012 11:53 am Updated: 07/20/2012 1:21 pm BOSTON (AP) — The mayor of Boston is vowing to block Chick-fil-A from opening a restaurant in the city after the company's president spoke out publicly against gay marriage. Mayor Thomas Menino told the Boston Herald (http://bit.ly/OevB9z ) on Thursday that he doesn't want a business in the city "that discriminates against a population." Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy told the Baptist Press this week that his privately owned company is "guilty as charged" in support of what he called the biblical definition of the family. The fast-food chicken sandwich chain later said that it strives to "treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender." Atlanta-based Chick-fil-A has more than 1,600 stores nationwide but just two in Massachusetts, both located in suburban malls. http://www.huffingto..._n_1689800.html It's strange that she'd send me that after the letter I send my parents last year, but at any rate, I replied with: It's an utter shame that the restaurant chain's leadership is so bigoted. However, they do have freedom of speech and should not be blocked from opening a restaurant merely because they expressed an opinion. She replied: He was not being bigoted - he was just stating his belief of family values. He said he treats everybody the same regardless of their belief. He should not be railroaded because he doesn't believe in gay marriage. I don't believe in gay marriage either! I replied: Sorry, but that IS a bigoted view. What gay person has EVER harmed you or tried to remove rights from you? It's nothing short of PREJUDICE to take such a condescending view of those who have never done anything to you. I'm sorry that you can't see how bigoted that is. Just today I got this response: Sorry, but that is NOT a bigoted view. Bigotry requires hate - I don't hate them, I feel sorry for them. However, I do stand for family values in the same way I don't believe in abortion but I don't hate those who do - they are to be pitied cause they don't seem to understand that what they are doing is wrong. I don't believe that pedophiles should be out among our children, but I am not bigoted against them either - they are sick & need to be helped but not out where they can molest more kids. I don't believe that murderers should be out on the loose, but I don't hate them - they need help, but behind prison bars. Sorry if you don't understand what I said, but that doesn't make me (or the president of Chic-Fil-A) a bigot. So I replied with: big·ot·ry[big-uh-tree] noun, plural big·ot·ries. 1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own. 2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot. http://dictionary.re...wse/bigotry?s=t There is nothing in the definition of bigotry pertaining to hatred. A condescending, prejudicial view of people who aren't harming anyone absolutely IS bigotry. It's a shame how religion fosters such invalid condescending attitudes toward people. Comparing gays to pedophiles is extremely ridiculous. Pedophiles have victims, but consenting gay partners do not. I'm sorry, but I cannot harbor such bigotry anymore, and this world would be a much better place if people could get past the archaic nonsense of ancient superstitious people and opt for a life of reason and tolerance. I love you and I apologize if that offends you, but the truth is the truth, regardless of whether or not you see it. I guess I should have pointed out that both pedophiles and murderers have victims, but in my hasty response I forgot to mention the murderer reference. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 She sounds just like my mom. You can't fix stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
★ Citsonga ★ Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 By the way, I suspect that she'll try to turn the tables and say that I'm bigoted for not tolerating her view, even though she's the one on the side of limiting a societal segment's rights. I don't have a problem with her freedom to think what she wants to think, but she has a problem with certain people wanting to marry someone they love, merely on the grounds of having the same physical plumbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunaticheathen Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Equating homosexuals with pedophiles is classic bigotry. She probably thinks of them as the same, which is indeed bigoted and ignorant. I genuinely hope your mother isn't hateful towards gay people, but she is bigoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro-bear Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Good for you for correcting her misunderstanding of bigotry. You can't let people misuse language to cover themselves. That business has a lovely chicken sandwich and some delicious waffle fries, but they will get no more of my business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCoastie Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why aren't these guys who support "Biblical marriage" also fighting to make polygamy and child marriage legal? If God was cool with King David having 8 wives then its good enough for the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why aren't these guys who support "Biblical marriage" also fighting to make polygamy and child marriage legal? If God was cool with King David having 8 wives then its good enough for the rest of us. Oh yeah! And I'm gonna add this to the mix, something new I learned the other day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogamy Endogamy, it opens up all kinds of crazy. I can deal with people not liking gays, that's fine, you don't have to be my friend. But to always classify us as something sinister. We always get classified with something illegal like murder, molesters, rapists. And people always assume that we have no idea what a family is or should be like. The minute people start talking like that I know they have no clue. It only takes a moment to stop and see that gays grow up in families, we are raised to be straight. So if we are criminals, then that is how we were raised, by straight criminals. It makes no sense. My parents, like most people, did not kill, rape or molest people and then teach us to do the same. It's just as absurd as the claim that we will want to marry our dog or car. People just overract so they can think they are "right" and superior by claiming the ridiculous. Then again these people usually believe in all that xianity has to offer, so I guess ridiculous is the standard by which they judge. Personally my imaginary friend left when I was 5 and he was never responsible for a global flood, he was a nice imaginary friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser01 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why aren't these guys who support "Biblical marriage" also fighting to make polygamy and child marriage legal? If God was cool with King David having 8 wives then its good enough for the rest of us. Morality does not come from the bible thats why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Chick-Fil-A, Gays And My Mother ... sounds like a great sit-com! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jensjam Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Sounds like my mom as well. BRAVO to you for the way you have dealt with this issue with your mom. And I do think Boston is awesome for standing up for Gay rights and not letting a Chic-Fil-A continue such a terrible idea. I also like the Dixie Chicks Idea--Make Chic-Fil-A the new "GAY" hang-out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
★ Citsonga ★ Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 I also like the Dixie Chicks Idea--Make Chic-Fil-A the new "GAY" hang-out Hadn't heard about that, but it would be kinda funny, although it would mean that gays would be funding a company that degrades them. Out of curiosity, are the Dixie Chicks lesbians (or one of them)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akheia Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think you handled the matter firmly but with as much gentleness as one could hope. The fundies' latest dance move is demanding you tolerate their intolerance. It's the last-drink call of the Christian party against gays. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedStar Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Well done for standing up against your mother, takes guts. It doesn't hurt to challenge them and let them know that other people's views are valid even if they don't like it. I also think it's ironic that she didn't know what bigotry actually meant lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherJosh Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 As part of its recent efforts to publicly align itself with fundamentalist Christian values, the Chick-fil-A restaurant chain announced today the debut of its new Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu sandwich that would be on sale in all of the company's 1,600 restaurants this Wednesday. In a press conference to reporters, company representatives said the homophobic new sandwich will include the national fast food chain’s trademark fried chicken filet wrapped in a piece of specially-smoked No Homo ham that would be topped with a slice of Swiss cheese and lathered in a creamy new Thousand Island-based Fag Punching sauce. "The Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu is our company's way of showing our firm commitment to strong, Christian family values," said Chick-fil-A spokesman Robert Gary, before adding that the vehemently anti-gay rights sandwich comes served in a combo with waffle fries and a medium soda for just $6.95. "From the very first morsel of this savory meal to the very last bite, customers can envision gays burning in hell with their sodomizing cohorts, and know that our sandwich is on their side.” http://www.theonion.com/articles/chickfila-debuts-new-homophobic-sandwich,28888/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akheia Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 You know, when I was a teenager, everybody wanted to work at the Chik-Fil-A in the mall--not because it was just sooooo Christian. Not even because the food was good. No, they all wanted jobs there because you got Sundays off. It didn't occur to me till years later that the Sunday thing was about Christianity. As the religion's gotten more and more polarized, the owners' insistence on pushing their Christian cocks in people's faces got more and more pronounced. So when I walked into one in Atlanta after years of being away from cities that had them, it only took me 10 seconds to realize that I was standing in a church annex. I still visited Chik-Fil-A, though, till I knew what my money was indirectly funding. The owners can be as bigoted as they want and deprive themselves of Sunday sales if it makes them happy, but the moment they start giving money to movements that are actively trying to deny civil rights to people, that's the moment I stop giving them money to spend in such places. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunaticheathen Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 When I applied there, one summer off from college, I walked out after being badgered about church attendance by the interviewing manager. Haven't been back since. If they can't handle me being a heathen, they can fuck right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
★ Citsonga ★ Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 When I applied there, one summer off from college, I walked out after being badgered about church attendance by the interviewing manager. Haven't been back since. If they can't handle me being a heathen, they can fuck right off. Wow! They're not an official religious organization, so that was completely illegal. Of course, I guess that laws don't matter if you serve that Lawd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConureDelSol Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I'm still going through waffle-fry withdrawal...it figures that after I've made a vow not to eat somewhere I start craving it. My parents don't know of my little mini-protest going on with CFA but I can't say they'd be surprised. They still see me as an uber liberal xtian or deist or something. My cousin who works at a CFA in Florida knows about my protest and is fine with it. Your mom actually sounds like my dad. My mom just goes "But being gay is unnatural." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurari Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think Boston should absolutely block Chick-a-filla from opening a restaurant. I agree with freedom of speech, but I wouldn't want a business run by neo-nazis or KKK members in my city. You have to take a hard stance against people who hate because they are amoral, heartless and conscienceless and cannot be appealed to with sense, logic, or empathy. However, I do stand for family values in the same way I don't believe in abortion but I don't hate those who do - they are to be pitied cause they don't seem to understand that what they are doing is wrong. Fuck you, you sick Christian cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BendyLine Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 A good friend of mine worked for CFA for years, and she said the work conditions there were horrible. Things like mocking employees for their weight, health code violations, and harassing employees when they pointed out said violations to management. I was about ready to boycott them anyway, and this whole gay thing is the straw that has broken the camel's back. Which is a real shame, because I am fucking addicted to their waffle fries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro-bear Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Apparently Chik-Fil-A regularly discriminates in hiring and awarding franchises. I guess they are getting away with it so far. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I haven't eaten at a Chick-Fil-A in years (not since I left Georgia), but I still miss the waffle fries sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro-bear Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I haven't eaten at a Chick-Fil-A in years (not since I left Georgia), but I still miss the waffle fries sometimes. And here I thought you didn't know shit about fries since you came out in favor of those Arby's abominations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I haven't eaten at a Chick-Fil-A in years (not since I left Georgia), but I still miss the waffle fries sometimes. And here I thought you didn't know shit about fries since you came out in favor of those Arby's abominations. I have eclectic taste in fries. Fortunately, we do have an ice cream/hot dog joint just a few minutes from me that has waffle fries that are every bit as good as the ones from Chick-Fil-A, so when I get a real craving I know where I can go to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Not that I am suggesting anyone consume so many fries that you need heart surgery , but I do understand the need to have access to excellent fries. You could always look up secret recipies online and see if they exist. I know I ran into the chicken sandwich on the Food(?) network one time. I was looking for Friday's fries when they used to have garlic on them many years ago. And their tempura green beans, ADDICTING!!! I'm not patient enough to make my own fries. Not only could you make your own, they could be even better, mmmmmm! And chik-fil-a can still suk it without your money! You could even email them pictures of your yummy homemade fries and tell them you are boycotting all xian hatemongers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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