Denyoz Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Jesus Christ. No, I'm not praising God, I'm swearing! So much money being wasted, so much time spent doing things we hate, so much stuff to buy, floors to clean, gadgets to fix. So much people to please, so much laws to obey, so much books to read, things to do, places to go. So much vitamins and pills to swallow, so much snow to shovel, so much kids to feed and shit to wipe. Can we just STOP everything! Halt this circus of stupid things we do repeatedly! Is this what we have evolved to? Is this what mankind has always wanted? Is this what humanity aspires to? More consumption, more neatness, more PERFECTION? How about more time, more space, more freedom? Better, always better, everything has to get better and better all the time. Good, always good, more good, and always the most good. Striving to improve, improve, improve. Run here, hurry there, change this, change that, stop this, start that. FASTER! Is it getting any better, any more fun? After all our efforts? Are we happier? No! No, no, no! Stop the train, I want to get off! Where is the door, I want to get out! Where is the escape key? Where is the eject button? Let me go. Jesus Christ 2
qadeshet Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Sometimes less is better. If the train won't stop, then jump. Minimalism is a good thing. 2
Denyoz Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Sometimes less is better. If the train won't stop, then jump. Minimalism is a good thing. Absolutely! And bitching makes me feel great! I want to get rid of all the useless, burdensome THINGS in my life. But it's difficult when you are married to someone who always wants more. Maybe I need to get rid of some useless, burdensome PEOPLE also. Moo-wah-ha-ha-haaaa....
Sheerbliss Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Sounds like you could use a sabbath day. (Runs and hides.) 2
◊ crazyguy123 ◊ Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Sometimes less is better. If the train won't stop, then jump. Minimalism is a good thing. Absolutely! And bitching makes me feel great! I want to get rid of all the useless, burdensome THINGS in my life. But it's difficult when you are married to someone who always wants more. Maybe I need to get rid of some useless, burdensome PEOPLE also. Moo-wah-ha-ha-haaaa.... I guess it's a good thing that I made the decision not to get married before it's too late. I've made the decision to stay off of the "train". More time, space, and freedom is what I hope to get out of life. Of course, I don't know if it is possible. I might be forced onto the "train". 1
Guest Babylonian Dream Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I hear ya. I feel ya. It's frustrating. Hope things get better for us both 1
Moderator Margee Posted January 23, 2013 Moderator Posted January 23, 2013 Deny, I was having this discussion today with a client this morning. Everyone of us have had such different lives. Some people just have it harder because of the circumstances of their own lives. Some people have 1 child and some have 10. The ones who have 10 are going to have a much harder life. If one lives in a simple apartment...that way of living is much simplier than owning a big house that needs constant up-grades and repairs. Some people live a long, long time before any diasters hit their lives, For some of us, diaster strikes when you are a child living in a totally dysfunctional home. And there are those people who are able able to lead much simplier lives because of making good concious decisions when at a much younger age. Some people stay married forever and some marry 5 times. I find the 'burnout' to be with people who have had a much harder life. The thing now, is to find a way to simplify all the things that create such heavy burdens. But if one is with a partner - they must do this together. Many marriage problems stem because the two partners could think very differently. One wants to go this way and the other wants to go in a different direction. If compromise does not happen within any relationship...it is probably doomed. Burnout is a terrible thing. It can throw one into the depts of depression. I am working with a councilor right now to help me with the horrible depression I have been going through myself. I am hoping to get a little input into how to simplify my own life right now. I do know that I had to calm down and make a plan of action to take real good care of myself. If I don't do that - I am no good to anybody. I need to rest and take my time making any decisions right now. I am trying to live just one day at a time. I'm not sure if that made any sense...but I hope it helps because I too am facing all of this right now. I am just facing the anger that I have been feeling for months... that anger is fueling me to make some changes in my life. 1
ConureDelSol Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Sometimes less is better. If the train won't stop, then jump. Minimalism is a good thing. Absolutely! And bitching makes me feel great! I want to get rid of all the useless, burdensome THINGS in my life. But it's difficult when you are married to someone who always wants more. Maybe I need to get rid of some useless, burdensome PEOPLE also. Moo-wah-ha-ha-haaaa.... I guess it's a good thing that I made the decision not to get married before it's too late. I've made the decision to stay off of the "train". More time, space, and freedom is what I hope to get out of life. Of course, I don't know if it is possible. I might be forced onto the "train". But you were REALLY on the train the WHOLE time...or a train computer simulation, or something. Don't jump off the train though...cause I think that's a euphemism for suicide...
Denyoz Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Sounds like you could use a sabbath day. (Runs and hides.) Yes, you better run and hide, lady! How about a sabbath decade? Five of them in a row!
florduh Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Somebody needs to run away from home. Trips to the dentist, the mall, finding the right car, deciding on which computer is best, choosing the best wireless plan, etc. Real pain in the ass. But it beats living in a mud hut and wondering if you'll find enough grubs and berries to survive until tomorrow.
Moderator Margee Posted January 23, 2013 Moderator Posted January 23, 2013 Somebody needs to run away from home. Trips to the dentist, the mall, finding the right car, deciding on which computer is best, choosing the best wireless plan, etc. Real pain in the ass. But it beats living in a mud hut and wondering if you'll find enough grubs and berries to survive until tomorrow. First time I ever wanted to punch your nose in. (well, not the first time).......... very unfair and insensitive............. Sometimes life is not as 'cut and dry' as you promote Mr florduh..... You leave us 'winter whiners' alone and go play in the sun!!
Denyoz Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 But it beats living in a mud hut and wondering if you'll find enough grubs and berries to survive until tomorrow. Maybe if I work hard enough I could afford 2 weeks vacation this summer and go camping... in a mud hut. 2
Denyoz Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 I hear ya. I feel ya. It's frustrating. Hope things get better for us both Thanks Babylon, By the way, I did get Civilization V for Christmas, but I haven't played enough yet to compete with anyone. Maybe when I get tired of Skyrim, Assassin's Creed and Prototype I'll try building myself an Egyptian civilization.
Denyoz Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 I'm not sure if that made any sense...but I hope it helps because I too am facing all of this right now. I am just facing the anger that I have been feeling for months... that anger is fueling me to make some changes in my life. Yes Margee you make sense, and thanks for sharing your insight and for providing constant support. I think I'm just getting old. I'm turning into a grumpy old man. Tired of all the bullshit. Tired of fighting. Tired of trying. I don't want to accomplish anything anymore, I'm done with accomplishing. I want to let things be. Let the snow fall and not shovel it. Let the grass grow and not mow it. Let the car break down and not fix it, let the house get dirty, let the insects come in, let the cat shit wherever she wants. Let nature be nature. Let people get sick if they get sick, let them die if they die. Why do we try so hard to CONTROL everything. It's a losing battle. Nature always wins in the end. Look at all the ancient civilizations. None of them survived. I wish humans could find a new way to live, a better way. I feel so powerless. Whatever I do won't change a goddam thing. I just want to stop and relax for the rest of my life. Notice how guilty we feel when we spend a day doing nothing. Even one hour. And someone asks you: "So what did you do today?" Doing nothing has become a sin. 1
Sheerbliss Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Wait a minute: are you in the first two weeks of a low-carb diet? If that's the case, you have the Atkins Flu, especially if you're coming off a bad sugar habit. It'll pass.
owen652 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Wow, everything both Denyoz and Margee said is EXACTLY how i'm feeling right now. I just discovered that i'm depressed; not just down (which i've always been, really), but clinically depressed. And even that realisation in itself is depressing. I know exactly what I need to do to make a change, but taking the first step is so hard. i've lost all motivation. I have four kids and honestly, I just wanna go somewhere far far away and sleep, by myself, and nothing else.. 2
florduh Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Somebody needs to run away from home. Trips to the dentist, the mall, finding the right car, deciding on which computer is best, choosing the best wireless plan, etc. Real pain in the ass. But it beats living in a mud hut and wondering if you'll find enough grubs and berries to survive until tomorrow. First time I ever wanted to punch your nose in. (well, not the first time).......... very unfair and insensitive............. Sometimes life is not as 'cut and dry' as you promote Mr florduh..... You leave us 'winter whiners' alone and go play in the sun!! You're right. Y'all have nothing to be happy about. Sorry! Usually if we can put things into perspective, we feel better about our situations. If a Kardashian was whining about how the color of the diamonds in her new bracelet wasn't quite what she wanted, it would be laughable. The fact that we have more food available to us than we can eat and we have a place to sleep tonight puts us ahead of many, many people. Just trying to make you feel more content with your life by showing how good it is in comparison to many others. If you'd just rather be miserable wallowing in self pity, have at it. I won't interfere, but my help and sympathies go to the homeless and hungry. (True clinical depression is another topic.)
Moderator Margee Posted January 24, 2013 Moderator Posted January 24, 2013 (True clinical depression is another topic.) And that's what I got, so things don't always look so bright when one is this depressed. I have always had the ability to compare myself with others who don't have it so well.......just going through a bad spot right now. It won't be long before I'll become my 'chippy' little self again and I will do my best (as I have always done) to help feed those who are a little hungry. Right now...I just need a little rest from helping people my whole life.
Guest MadameX Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 People! Mama MadameX is going to tell you to go outside and play! Get outside and exercise in the sunshine if at all possible IN THE MORNING everyday. Run! Walk vigorously! Chat with friends! Listen to awesome music, whenever possible, and for an hour every evening, after you have TURNED OFF THE COMPUTER! Eat well, eat really good healthy stuff. No candy! Well maybe a little chocolate, as a treat, from time to time. Get plenty of sleep, rarely awaken to the alarm clock. Get out into nature regularly, marvel at it, see the stirrings of spring - even now the birds are starting to get more active ... listen ... Oh and volunteer. Do something to help others (unless you are burned out on it, Margeeeeee ....) Feel appreciated, and be the difference in someone's day. Appreciate what you have, thought it may not be a lot, life is a gift. 3
Jose Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 What's this "winter" thing everyone keeps talking about? I kid, I kid... Regarding your dissatisfaction with the go, go lifestyle... Just stop. There will never be a time when it will seem comfortable or safe to just quit living a hectic life, so you have to just stop and then adjust. I used to be an commercial sales manager. This meant I was driving 100 miles a day when I wasn't on a plane, talking on my phone the whole time, visiting clients, all of whom were in a hurry. When I stopped to eat, I would pull out the laptop and phone and take bites between emails and phone calls, texts from my go-go-hurry-hurry girlfriend about money, bills, home improvements, and voicemails from my friends asking me when the hell I'd be able to hang out with them again. I worked 12 - 15 hours a day, 6 days a week. Sundays were my only day off and I would pretty much just sleep the whole day. I had the latest gadgets, a huge house, a paid off car and a company car, a lawn service and maintenance company (because no way could I do it), $30,000 in my savings account with never less than $5,000 in checking, and a huge drug problem because of my crippling depression and horrifying panic attacks. Now I live in a 2 bedroom apartment less than a third the size my house was. I don't drive at all anymore (I take the bus). I work right at 40 hours a week doing a job I enjoy that has less stress than waiting in line at the bank. Speaking of which, I no longer own a cell phone. I don't have cable television and I can count the "gadgets" I have on one hand (and the X-Box isn't even mine). I get home, sit on my porch and talk to my wife. If she's not home, I'll read... or, hell... just sit out there and watch the railroad tracks and listen to the sounds of the city. I'm no longer medicated. I have no idea how much money is in the bank because as long as I have $525 for rent, $150 for electric and sewer, $50 for bus passes, and money for food each month, the rest doesn't matter, so it just sits there until I feel like buying my wife perfume from Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab or a nice meal out somewhere. You just have to say "damn the torpedoes!" sometimes and just fucking change. I started my whole life over, at 37 years old, with $400 and one bag full of clothes and I've never been happier than I am right now. 4
Denyoz Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 Wait a minute: are you in the first two weeks of a low-carb diet? Yes.
Denyoz Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 People! Mama MadameX is going to tell you to go outside and play! Get outside and exercise in the sunshine if at all possible IN THE MORNING everyday. Mama MadameX: It's minus 36 degrees outside! Margee: I think we should move down south. People seem to be happier there. 1
Denyoz Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 Now I live in a 2 bedroom apartment less than a third the size my house was. I don't drive at all anymore (I take the bus). I no longer own a cell phone. I don't have cable television and I can count the "gadgets" I have on one hand (and the X-Box isn't even mine). I get home, sit on my porch and talk to my wife. If she's not home, I'll read... or, hell... just sit out there and watch the railroad tracks and listen to the sounds of the city. I'm no longer medicated. I have no idea how much money is in the bank because as long as I have $525 for rent, $150 for electric and sewer, $50 for bus passes, and money for food each month, the rest doesn't matter, so it just sits there until I feel like buying my wife perfume from Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab or a nice meal out somewhere. You just have to say "damn the torpedoes!" sometimes and just fucking change. I started my whole life over, at 37 years old, with $400 and one bag full of clothes and I've never been happier than I am right now. Great stuff Jose. This is exactly what I am planning to do (minus a few things). Thanks for sharing man!
Moderator Margee Posted January 24, 2013 Moderator Posted January 24, 2013 . Get out into nature regularly, marvel at it, see the stirrings of spring - even now the birds are starting to get more active ... listen ... Are you one of the luckier ones to live south?? There is NO 'stirrings' of spring where I live for another 3 months. I'll have to stare at the nice plant in my livingroom and listen to the 'birds' on you-tube....... 1
Sheerbliss Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Wait a minute: are you in the first two weeks of a low-carb diet? Yes. Some people say drinking broth helps. Your body is switching over from burning mostly sugar to burning mostly fat. Quitting wheat and sugar is like drug withdrawal for some people. (See this and this.) Unless something else is going on with you, you should be feeling better in another week. As someone mentioned, exercise is great for fitness and blowing off steam, but wait another week or so until you're adapted to the diet. Take it easy until then.
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