Ellwood Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Over the last few days I have been receiving Facebook posts from a friend regarding the medical situation of a friend of his. From what I gathered a young man in his 20s got pneumonia a little over a week ago. Last Thursday I received a post that they "had a miracle" in that a procedure by the medical team successfully drained some fluid that helped improve things. By Saturday morning, very sadly, this young man was dead. (failed miracle) A few hours later I got the following Facebook post: I know most of you know by now that (young man's name) today experienced the ultimate healing and went to be with his Lord. (his family names) our hearts go out to you who are left here to mourn his passing. We love you guys and ask all our friends to keep praying for this wonderful family. Ultimate Healing? Is there never an end to putting a positive twist to the non-actions of the pretend god and unanswered prayers? If being with jesus is the "ultimate healing" than why not be praying for that exact result from the start? "Lord, make his pneumonia even worse so he can die and receive ultimate healing from you.", said no parent ever.
RipVanWinkle Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I've seen this reaction before. It's crazy, isn't it?
midniterider Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Over the last few days I have been receiving Facebook posts from a friend regarding the medical situation of a friend of his. From what I gathered a young man in his 20s got pneumonia a little over a week ago. Last Thursday I received a post that they "had a miracle" in that a procedure by the medical team successfully drained some fluid that helped improve things. By Saturday morning, very sadly, this young man was dead. (failed miracle) A few hours later I got the following Facebook post: I know most of you know by now that (young man's name) today experienced the ultimate healing and went to be with his Lord. (his family names) our hearts go out to you who are left here to mourn his passing. We love you guys and ask all our friends to keep praying for this wonderful family. Ultimate Healing? Is there never an end to putting a positive twist to the non-actions of the pretend god and unanswered prayers? If being with jesus is the "ultimate healing" than why not be praying for that exact result from the start? "Lord, make his pneumonia even worse so he can die and receive ultimate healing from you.", said no parent ever. Life is the sickness. Getting pneumonia is an improvement towards the ultimate goal of death, the ultimate healing. :-)
MissingLink Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Yes! This is how my husband was told his mother died at age 59! "Ultimate Healing" - Really?? She had had a stroke at 40 and also battled emphysema - so it was a long 19 years. And as you said, no matter what happens, xtians twist it into a "blessing". Bizarre! It also always reminded me of the doublespeak used famously in Orwell's book 1984 (I read it in 1977, when it was still futuristic). The government slogan - "War is peace; freedom is slavery; ignorance is strength." (Sounds like quite a few religions to me.....)
Super Moderator buffettphan Posted February 25, 2013 Super Moderator Posted February 25, 2013 Oh, you have a scratch on your ankle....Let me cut off your leg. Perfect sense. /sarcasm
mymistake Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Christianity is lies built upon more lies. Afraid of death? We have good news. Death is wonderful because we don't really die.
RipVanWinkle Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Why don't Xtians promote the legalization of murder and suicide? bill
Guest Pixie Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 They will console themselves that Jesus needed him for 'something'. I guess this always gives people comfort. Sad.
R. S. Martin Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 So far as I can see, suicide is the ultimate self-denial. And self-denial, we are taught by Christianity, is true discipleship. That's what occurred to me when I was first exposed to suicide at 13 when a neighbour woman drowned herself in the cistern in her house. I was confused at the dour response of the community.
kolaida Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 So far as I can see, suicide is the ultimate self-denial. And self-denial, we are taught by Christianity, is true discipleship. That's what occurred to me when I was first exposed to suicide at 13 when a neighbour woman drowned herself in the cistern in her house. I was confused at the dour response of the community. I see what you're saying and that's a really good point. I was always taught that suicide was the "coward's way out" or that it was extremely "selfish" because you didn't think of the others left behind and that you weren't "trusting" God enough to improve your life/bring you out of misery. Suicide is a sad thing; it's when you just accept that things aren't going to change and you simply can't deal with it any longer. I think about it often (I am in therapy, though, so no worries, I think I've stepped away from that ledge). In answer to the question, I think it's just some people are really desperate for self-assurance and when your emotions are at the highest/peak moments, you'll say something to find a way to comfort yourself. Also, factor in they probably really believe in this stuff. I think life would be happier/healthier if people weren't so focused on the "next life" and what/who they might see, but it's probably a long ways. It's sad, this makes me sad.
3DollarBill Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Next time I'm talking to a particularly obnoxious churchy, when they claim they reeeeeaaaaallly believe in heaven and how fucking wonderful a place it is and go on and on and on about how this is just a temporary existence, heaven is their real home... I'm gonna hand them a knife and say "One-way ticket on me, I'll even clean up the mess for ya!" 2
raoul Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Next time I'm talking to a particularly obnoxious churchy, when they claim they reeeeeaaaaallly believe in heaven and how fucking wonderful a place it is and go on and on and on about how this is just a temporary existence, heaven is their real home... I'm gonna hand them a knife and say "One-way ticket on me, I'll even clean up the mess for ya!" There you go again! Another classic! ROFL
midniterider Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Next time I'm talking to a particularly obnoxious churchy, when they claim they reeeeeaaaaallly believe in heaven and how fucking wonderful a place it is and go on and on and on about how this is just a temporary existence, heaven is their real home... I'm gonna hand them a knife and say "One-way ticket on me, I'll even clean up the mess for ya!" There you go again! Another classic! ROFL That is precious. lol.
midniterider Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Yes! This is how my husband was told his mother died at age 59! "Ultimate Healing" - Really?? She had had a stroke at 40 and also battled emphysema - so it was a long 19 years. And as you said, no matter what happens, xtians twist it into a "blessing". Bizarre! It also always reminded me of the doublespeak used famously in Orwell's book 1984 (I read it in 1977, when it was still futuristic). The government slogan - "War is peace; freedom is slavery; ignorance is strength." (Sounds like quite a few religions to me.....) I liked to quote that at work. Our boss would come up with inane shit and pass it off as policy. The illogic makes you wanna scream.
midniterider Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Why don't Xtians promote the legalization of murder and suicide? bill Suicide is counter-productive to church income flow. Do what thou wilt, just keep putting money in the plate on Sunday.
ConureDelSol Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 I was always told you go to Hell if you commit suicide...
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