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Hopefully, destroying the Kalam Argument forever. I made a mistake, actually 2. I repeated the percentage of cosmologists being atheists in both segments and I said 'Thomas Aquinas around the 9th century - meant around the 13th century'. Sorry.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhFgZUA5h00&feature=youtube_gdata

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Even if the universe does have a cause and that cause is a being of great power, we are no closer to knowing, what it is, what it wants or if it is any god we know out of the thousands we know today (or think we know) than we were thousands of years ago.

 

And you clip was wonderfully made, keep up the good work.

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Even if the universe does have a cause and that cause is a being of great power, we are no closer to knowing, what it is, what it wants or if it is any god we know out of the thousands we know today (or think we know) than we were thousands of years ago.

 

And you clip was wonderfully made, keep up the good work.

Thanks but it wasn't too much of an effort on my part since, as I briefly said in it, I actually tried using the kca when I was in their cult. And, regarding what you write about maybe it having a cause of some kind - an associate of mine over at YouTube wrote the following which, I forgot to use in my opening remarks. Had I done so then maybe I wouldn't have had to state 3 of the 4 objections cited. Anyway he wrote "The Law of Conservation of Mass/Energy that states energy/matter CAN NOT be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy in the universe is zero. The amount of positive energy in the form of matter is exactly canceled out by the negative energy in the form of gravity. This is just what you would expect from a universe formed out of nothing. No god is necessary.

 

So, in other words, no intelligent/thinking kind of cause is really necessary at all.

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Even if the universe does have a cause and that cause is a being of great power, we are no closer to knowing, what it is, what it wants or if it is any god we know out of the thousands we know today (or think we know) than we were thousands of years ago.

 

And you clip was wonderfully made, keep up the good work.

Thanks but it wasn't too much of an effort on my part since, as I briefly said in it, I actually tried using the kca when I was in their cult. And, regarding what you write about maybe it having a cause of some kind - an associate of mine over at YouTube wrote the following which, I forgot to use in my opening remarks. Had I done so then maybe I wouldn't have had to state 3 of the 4 objections cited. Anyway he wrote "The Law of Conservation of Mass/Energy that states energy/matter CAN NOT be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy in the universe is zero. The amount of positive energy in the form of matter is exactly canceled out by the negative energy in the form of gravity. This is just what you would expect from a universe formed out of nothing. No god is necessary.

 

So, in other words, no intelligent/thinking kind of cause is really necessary at all.

 

Good post, Raoul.  Nat might be interested in what you quote above, given his interest in zero (part in red especially).

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Even if the universe does have a cause and that cause is a being of great power, we are no closer to knowing, what it is, what it wants or if it is any god we know out of the thousands we know today (or think we know) than we were thousands of years ago.

 

And you clip was wonderfully made, keep up the good work.

Thanks but it wasn't too much of an effort on my part since, as I briefly said in it, I actually tried using the kca when I was in their cult. And, regarding what you write about maybe it having a cause of some kind - an associate of mine over at YouTube wrote the following which, I forgot to use in my opening remarks. Had I done so then maybe I wouldn't have had to state 3 of the 4 objections cited. Anyway he wrote "The Law of Conservation of Mass/Energy that states energy/matter CAN NOT be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy in the universe is zero. The amount of positive energy in the form of matter is exactly canceled out by the negative energy in the form of gravity. This is just what you would expect from a universe formed out of nothing. No god is necessary.

 

So, in other words, no intelligent/thinking kind of cause is really necessary at all.

 

Good post, Raoul.  Nat might be interested in what you quote above, given his interest in zero (part in red especially).

 

Oh pullleesse Ficino, don't get me anywhere near that other topic about the numbers. My head still hurts trying to decipher all of that stuff. ROFL

And the quote comes from a person named metalsusa1 on YouTube. He's a great friend, very knowledgeable on so many things pertaining to what we talk about and has a great sense of humor as well. His style of debating is as dry as can be which drives the other side completely nuts at times. I sit back, watch him at work, and my grin just keeps getting wider and wider.

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