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Selling Soul To The Devil.


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What are you afraid of?

That god is punishing you or sending you signs?

Why would he punish you and not  all other nonbelievers? Why would he send you signs and not all others (including me 100 times) that prayed for his proof of existence?  Why would he send bugs and not angels or demons?

Or are you afraid of hell? Then I would recommend to read the bible and investigate what the bible says about hell. You have to realize that most of the things taught in churches are just a narrow-minded interpretation of the bible. An interesting video on this topic is

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It was a thought of selling soul to the devil. I didn't actually say it out loud but it still freaked me out. It actually happened 2-3 times after that(not back to back). As for the whole bug thing, I think what really spooked me was the timing I noticed both of them.

 

I actually am on Christianity Disproved right now.

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Also, anyone know any good videos on YouTube that could help me?

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My mind must be going nuts. Despite my de-conversion, I had a thought that has me freaked out. The thought was selling my soul to the devil. I don't even believe the devil exists anymore. Yet, this has me scared out of my mind.

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

Whatever price he offers  tell him to double it.  Then when he offers again  tell him to triple it.  

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Also, anyone know any good videos on YouTube that could help me?

 

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My soul is cheap.  For a mere $9.99 you can bugger it to your heart's content.  Just send me an IM and I'll give you my PayPal address. 

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Now that I think about it, the fact I was already mentally drained probably contributed to this.

 

 

 

I'm starting to calm down now but still have some fear.

 

Hopefully, my fear is just that. Fear. Gonna get some rest.

Did my humor help you at all? I was trying to make you laugh if it was possible, but I don't know if it worked.

I admit, I did get a chuckle of that.

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Think I'm starting to calm down now. I mean, yes I still have my fears in the back of my mind and my head hurts(again)but, I think I'll be fine. Hopefully.

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My soul is cheap.  For a mere $9.99 you can bugger it to your heart's content.  Just send me an IM and I'll give you my PayPal address. 

 

But if you call right now, we'll give you two souls for the price of one!

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Think I'm starting to calm down now. I mean, yes I still have my fears in the back of my mind and my head hurts(again)but, I think I'll be fine. Hopefully.

 

Watch something funny on tv or on youtube.

Go to a doctor and get some tranquilizers.

Look at porn (if you're 18 or over).

Insist that you are the ultimate power and master of everything, and that all other supposed gods, spirits, etc are impotent if not non-existent. This is quite true because you manifest yourself in this physical universe everyday while those other supposed spirits never have/never do.

 

Satan/Evil/Hell is just a fear/anxiety/obsession originating in your mind from past religious programming. There are a variety of ways to destroy these thoughts. That's all they are. Just thoughts. 

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I've been watching the "Do you know your Bible" series on YouTube plus the "The Origin of Satan" video on the same channel.

 

The more and more I watch, the more and more surprised I've been.

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Hunter93,

 

The only people I know of on the subject of "selling soul to devil" etc, are Faust, as mentioned above, and old-timey blues men. And even the blues motif - selling your soul to the devil in exchange for musical talent - has more to do with other religions, like Vodou, wrapped up in Christian motifs to keep them safe from the eyes of the overseers in the days of slavery. So, I guess if you think about it from another direction, it's a sacred pact, rather than damnation. See also Papa Legba, guardian of the crossroads. There's also

, from Japan, which took the Faust concept and ran with it. Good series, worth a watch, especially if you want a non-Christian view on Christian motifs as a stylistic choice. I'd also second what Bhim said about different cultures having very different ideas of good and evil. If you want a look outside the Christianity box into some ideas of other cultural variants of good and evil, definitely read up on Hinduism. Or Shinto, for that matter. Hinduism's reincarnation idea is a lot more humane than the Christian Hell, in any case (literally infinite second chances to get it right), and Shinto's central concern is purity vs. contamination. It might really help to read about other people's beliefs, to see how diverse and yet similar human beliefs are. This could be a good antidote to getting stuck in one way of thinking. One of the Pillars of Islam is Charity after all. Hint: the golden rule is found practically everywhere, and is arguably the basis of morality. First phrased, in an interesting way by Confucius, pre-dating the "do unto others" version in the Bible by a few hundred years.

So, as for those bugs, though, if you live in North America, I'd put cold cash on them being Brown Marmorated Stink Bugs (Halyomorpha halys). They were introduced a few years ago, and now they're an invasive pest. Very annoying, damaging our fruit and crowding out native species, in addition to having an irritating habit of invading houses.

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So in general, not only the Bible doesn't mention anything, but that whole thing has nothing do with Christianity but from something else?

 

My mind is REALLY all over the place then. Seriously, I had something that I bought on eBay last Tuesday(item location was California) come today and guess where my mind went AGAIN? Maybe my mind is still recovering from Christian brainwashing while dealing with fear and anxiety at the same time(which I actually now think developed during my Christianity along with increased paranoia). Yeah, the kid who preached to me also mentioned that concept. That's the first time I learned about it.

 

And about those bugs, I don't know if those two were but I've had those in the house a few times.

 

UPDATE: With the other issues I have and all, I wouldn't be surprised if that thought came back again. But I SHOULD be ok. I learned a lot today from watching those videos on YouTube.

 

But I also learned I need to get off my butt and clean my room one of these days.

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It seems it's purely anxiety issues. I get those thoughts when the anxiety hits or at least, that's how I feel.

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It seems it's purely anxiety issues. I get those thoughts when the anxiety hits or at least, that's how I feel.

 

The more you know, the less sensitive your buttons will become.  Don't be hard on yourself.  It takes time for the emotional head games to lose their effect.  It does get better. 

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That's what I've been trying to do. Learning everything I can.

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Yep, Anxiety Attack. With just happened to me now, I'm fairly certain anxiety is the cause behind this.

 

See, my mom called saying she's coming home from work and asked if I wanted any food, I said yes and bam, thought came. Just like the first time this happened at Target.(Wednesday).

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I'm starting to laugh at how irrational my fear is. Even if Satan IS real, I doubt thoughts caused by anxiety would be enough anyway.

 

But what do you guys have to say about all those people who supposedly sold their soul?

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I'm starting to laugh at how irrational my fear is. Even if Satan IS real, I doubt thoughts caused by anxiety would be enough anyway.

 

 

Back when I was a Christian I had a deep, crippling fear of demons.  I was often afraid to walk around my own home.  Praying to Jesus didn't work.  The cure was to become an atheist.

 

 

 

 

But what do you guys have to say about all those people who supposedly sold their soul?

 

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Sadly, my mind still does not want to cooperate.

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UPDATE: Might be a little OCD as well. That might be causing the thoughts too.

 

But it's gotten to the point that even though I de-converted, I still said prayers.

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For irrational fears that you know are irrational, sometimes it helps me to do the opposite of fighting them. Sometimes fighting them just makes them stronger. You can go the other way, and tell your fears "ok, I'll play along. What's the worst that could happen?" You'll start out by getting the same sort of fears you've had before, and it's not terribly pleasant. But then you tell it "Yeah, yeah, you told me that last time, keep going. What's really the worst that could happen?" At some point you run out of legitmately scary things to be afraid of and your brain starts generating scenarios so ridiculous they're hilarious. Usually for me, I know I've reached that point when the fear cycle pauses, then after a moment of confusion and "wtf" sensations, my emotional response becomes *facepalm* instead of terror. Also, you can come up with some awesome plots for bad SciFy chanel movies that way! Laughter is a great antidote to fear.

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I think it's also because I'm still adjusting to life after de-conversion. Nobody said it would easy.

 

And yeah, laughter is an antidote to fear. The problem is that it keeps coming back.

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Its ok to have these fears hunter. A lot of us have or have had them. It goes with the territory and it will probably last for some time to come. That's ok though it gets easier with time you just have to be patient with yourself and trust in your body if it soothes you to pray then pray. This does not mean that you have to pray to jesus or anyone you can pray to yourself. Sometimes the physical action of prayer can soothe your thoughts even though you know you are not praying to a god. The physical act can trick your mind out of the fear sometimes but that's just what worked with me find a strategy that works for you is probably best. I would wait on diagnosing yourself as OCD or something along those lines until a psychiatrist or psychologist can. The anxiety you are experiencing is probably due to your deconversion so establishing a game plan with a therapist or psychologist who is familiar with your situation is probably in order. Also talking helps to so whenever you get a panic attack find someone to talk to whether that's going to a friend or coming on to ex-Christian.net I pop on in and out throughout the day So if you don't mind talking I am here =D

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Actually, the anxiety started about 3 weeks ago when I still was a Christian. I de-converted a week ago. De-conversion probably just added onto it.

 

But, the anxiety was probably caused by Christianity. I never had this sort of problem before converting. It started when I was a Christian but it didn't get really bad until 3 weeks ago.

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