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I used to live on christian songs when i was evangelical. Jars of clay, michael w smith and hillsong. Even though I have shed my christian beliefs these songs still are comforting in a certain way because they talk about a loving god who hold you up when you are without hope.

 

I know I should be cautious cuz these are like drugs and probably heroin addicts feel the same way if they have been recovering for a while and then get back on heroin

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Not me. I deliberately and methodically went through my entire CD collection and iTunes files to ensure I would never have to listen to that crap again. It never really was my style of music and I actually get a horrible 'flashback' type experience if I hear it. It reminds me of the god who never loved me and wasn't even there, so it offers me no comfort at all. 

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Well God never really did anything for anyone cuz he doesnt exist woohoo.gif . The experience whether good or bad are totally personal.

 

I actually left christianity initially cuz I didnt want to think about sin so much. It's only later on that I discovered the wealth of science and evidence against what christianity espouses.

 

My experience overall though wasnt very negative and the praise and worship part was something I really enjoyed and gave brief but not last comfort.

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I never liked most Christian music even when I was a Christian. Almost all of it was the blandest dreck to me, and I was more than happy to never have to hear it again when I finally stopped going to church.

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mmm. Are you talking about traditional christian music you play on the organ or the modern "Contemporary Christian Music", when you say you refer to Christian music you dont like

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Now please dont think I am a christian pretending to be atheist trying to infiltrate this forum. I am a porn/ sex , Sam Harris, cussing loving, evolution, big bang loving atheist.

 

I sometime go enjoy like listening to stuff like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydd4XTIDzF0

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Yeah, I can't. I just feel so silly listening to it now and sometimes angry!! 

 

But, I have a girl I've known forever (an atheist, not my best friend one, though, lol) and I remember even as a Christian I'd sometimes get confused by her posts because she'd post about bands that she liked and would even share Christian music but I KNEW she was an atheist, she told me and she'd even make comments, "They're Christian but I still enjoyed the beat of this song."  Some people can just look past it, but I don't think she'd ever experienced the "high" a lot of Christians get from the music so to her, it was always just another song that might mean something to someone else.  My parents made us break up our Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, and MatchBox 20 CDs along with other secular music and I could only listen to Christian music for about four years straight; then we were allowed country music for about a year or so because there were "kinda Christian."  Then my brother talked me into buying a Breaking Benjamin CD for him and oh, man, was THAT a fun day. But he got to keep it and the ban was lifted from the house.  (but then I was the one always listening to Christian music for like four or five more years I was already so deep into it).  

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Now please dont think I am a christian pretending to be atheist trying to infiltrate this forum. I am a porn/ sex , Sam Harris, cussing loving, evolution, big bang loving atheist.

 

I sometime go enjoy like listening to stuff like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydd4XTIDzF0

 

First, I'm sorry, I just could not bear to put myself through listening to that link but I have heard their music before and know it is very moving. Anyone who is sensitive to music will be moved by it. We are wired to be moved(and some more that others), but it does not make the statements in the music true, or demonstrate that anything supernatural is happening. I don't listen to christian music (hymns to Hillsong) because it is a lie, a horrible lie that I once foolishly believed. I just don't seem to be able to detach myself from that and enjoy the actual music (the little of it that is good) but I understand that other non-christians can detach and do enjoy the music and even find it comforting. 

 

There is so, so much better music out there, I don't have the time to waste being irritated by christian music

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I listen to dark music like Nevermore and Disturbed, somehow these darker types of songs comfort me in a way that Christian music never did.  I think Christian music had generally such an upbeatness to it, and hopefulness to it, that I was never able to relate to because of my life circumstances.  So I more like to listen to music that goes down in the trenches with me and talks about death and talks about pain and suffering, confusion, hopelessness all those kinds of topics.  One of my favourite songs is "Mad world" by Gary Jules.  When people run in circles its a very, very
Mad world, mad world.

 

I also enjoy listening to different kinds of native music by native peoples.  I hated most Christian music in that it was simply too "white" for me and my white adoptive parents didn't understand that.  Native music speaks to my soul, culturally, and helps me get in touch with my spirit and other living beings of all kinds and with the world and with my dreams.  White people music like the Christian songs we had at church more spoke to my white family as it would sing about topics they could relate to such as Christmas carols.  I remember when I was a little one getting dressed up as an angel and standing up front at church with other children to sing 'Come they told me
 Pa rum pum pum pum
 A new born King to see,
 Pa rum pum pum pum
 Our finest gifts we bring
 Pa rum pum pum pum....."

 

A song like that was bizarre to me, it just was tooo.....white Wendyshrug.gif

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I really don't mind if you like Christian songs.  Personally I couldn't take them any more and tossed mine.  They are just too silly for me.

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I listen to dark music like Nevermore and Disturbed, somehow these darker types of songs comfort me in a way that Christian music never did.  I think Christian music had generally such an upbeatness to it, and hopefulness to it, that I was never able to relate to because of my life circumstances.  So I more like to listen to music that goes down in the trenches with me and talks about death and talks about pain and suffering, confusion, hopelessness all those kinds of topics.  One of my favourite songs is "Mad world" by Gary Jules.  When people run in circles its a very, very

Mad world, mad world.

 

I also enjoy listening to different kinds of native music by native peoples.  I hated most Christian music in that it was simply too "white" for me and my white adoptive parents didn't understand that.  Native music speaks to my soul, culturally, and helps me get in touch with my spirit and other living beings of all kinds and with the world and with my dreams.  White people music like the Christian songs we had at church more spoke to my white family as it would sing about topics they could relate to such as Christmas carols.  I remember when I was a little one getting dressed up as an angel and standing up front at church with other children to sing 'Come they told me

 Pa rum pum pum pum

 A new born King to see,

 Pa rum pum pum pum

 Our finest gifts we bring

 Pa rum pum pum pum....."

 

A song like that was bizarre to me, it just was tooo.....white Wendyshrug.gif

 

Dark music is sooo much more comforting to me than christian music ever was, and to be honest - it was at times. Dark music is like being wrapped in a warm blanket on a cold night. And that Garry Jules version or 'Mad World' is so beautifully haunting. This kind of intelligence is hard to find in christian music. 

 

Oh, and trust me many white folks also  find 'The Drummer Boy' plain nauseating. Damn, it is stuck in my head now...thanks :P 

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I vaguely remember how I used to sing along and get that "high" that people have talked about getting. After I stopped attending church, i did as @wanderinstar did and personally made sure that none of that music ever played in my music libraries again hahaha. But since the rest of my family still attends church and are "devout believers", i make sure that i bring some noise cancelling headphones when we go for a car ride :P . I cant stand listening to it.

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Some pseudo-Xian artists, like Mat Kearney and Lifehouse. They're Xians, but they don't advertise it like Casting Crowns. Definitely not any Michael W. Smith or anything like that. Can't risk missing the "hallelujah" high too much.

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No way.In common with several others in this thread i never liked it when I was a christian.tried to like it but thought it totally shit.

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I have... eclectic tastes... in music. Depends on what you consider "Christian Music" - if it's "music that has Christian themes in it" then yes, I do.

(The only Country and Western artist I really like across the board is Johnny Cash, for example.)

 

But if it's "music that is a Christian alternative to other, better music," then no. That stuff strikes me as a bland, neutered, alternative to actually good stuff. I think it's because people listen to music for what it means, in addition to the actual sound of it. If you just end up aping the musical style and sound while pasting a different "more acceptable" message on over the top, you've managed to kill both the music and the message. So, most "Christian Music" ends up sounding to me bland, artistically, as well as watered-down, message-wise. It's like it's not even that Christian, it's just: let's add some schmoopy stuff about Jesus, so that the music isn't about something we Don't Approve Of. The existence of the whole industry just smacks of fear.

 

Besides, I like this stuff for what it is, thank you:

Taiwanese Black Metal!

The famously technical and difficult Devil's Trill Sonata by Tartini.

Beautiful Afro-Peruvian music by Susana Baca: De Los Amores.

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mmm. Are you talking about traditional christian music you play on the organ or the modern "Contemporary Christian Music", when you say you refer to Christian music you dont like

 

I'm talking about contemporary Christian music. I can't stand the stuff.

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I used to live on christian songs when i was evangelical. Jars of clay, michael w smith and hillsong. Even though I have shed my christian beliefs these songs still are comforting in a certain way because they talk about a loving god who hold you up when you are without hope.

 

I know I should be cautious cuz these are like drugs and probably heroin addicts feel the same way if they have been recovering for a while and then get back on heroin

 

My coworker listens to the sappiest christiand music I have ever heard. It makes my ears bleed and I have to drown it out with loud punk and techno...

 

Seriously christian music has got to be some of the worst music ever produced. It is sappy glazed eye bullshit with flowery words about a lie and a fantasy that people cannot seem to see around.

 

Raise you hand if you want to go to a heaven which requires you sing adoration like this all day to god... I would rather janitor bathrooms for all eternity.

 

Hence forth it will be referred to not as christian music but as: Vomit frequency.

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Yup. The first two Jars of Clay albums are two of my favorite of all time. Still a DC Talk and PFR fan as well. It's good to go back in time and reminisce. Sure we were deceived but I had fun at times and have some good memories and the music is a big contributor to those things.

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I'm still a fan of old Stryper.  To Hell With the Devil biotch!  I am also a fan of Deliverance.  Those dudes were crazy slaughter everyone for god kinda people, great guitar work.

 

I listened to Michael W. Smith when I needed the high, but now that that's gone, I've moved on.  He was pretty talented at getting the emotions flowing.

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I listen to dark music like Nevermore and Disturbed, somehow these darker types of songs comfort me in a way that Christian music never did.  I think Christian music had generally such an upbeatness to it, and hopefulness to it, that I was never able to relate to because of my life circumstances.  So I more like to listen to music that goes down in the trenches with me and talks about death and talks about pain and suffering, confusion, hopelessness all those kinds of topics.  One of my favourite songs is "Mad world" by Gary Jules.  When people run in circles its a very, very

Mad world, mad world.

 

I also enjoy listening to different kinds of native music by native peoples.  I hated most Christian music in that it was simply too "white" for me and my white adoptive parents didn't understand that.  Native music speaks to my soul, culturally, and helps me get in touch with my spirit and other living beings of all kinds and with the world and with my dreams.  White people music like the Christian songs we had at church more spoke to my white family as it would sing about topics they could relate to such as Christmas carols.  I remember when I was a little one getting dressed up as an angel and standing up front at church with other children to sing 'Come they told me

 Pa rum pum pum pum

 A new born King to see,

 Pa rum pum pum pum

 Our finest gifts we bring

 Pa rum pum pum pum....."

 

A song like that was bizarre to me, it just was tooo.....white Wendyshrug.gif

 

Dark music is sooo much more comforting to me than christian music ever was, and to be honest - it was at times. Dark music is like being wrapped in a warm blanket on a cold night. And that Garry Jules version or 'Mad World' is so beautifully haunting. This kind of intelligence is hard to find in christian music. 

 

Oh, and trust me many white folks also  find 'The Drummer Boy' plain nauseating. Damn, it is stuck in my head now...thanks tongue.png

 

 

I was annoyed with the happy fluff of christian pop worship music even as a christian. My fundy parents like secular music just fine and thought anyone who banned the stuff was a bit nuts, so in that sense I had exposure to plenty of good music. They still don't know that I like and listen to hard rock/heavy metal, though, and would be horrified to find out. Anyway, back to the dark music that I love... you ever read the psalms?! They're full of anger at god, violence, pain... and that was the Jew's church music. I found it pretty ridiculous that we [christians in general, not my family in particular] weren't allowed to use music to express the emotions that our very own scriptures presented as worship lyrics. I even listened to some anti-christian music (hid it from my parents, though) because I realized they were making a valid point, and if I wanted to be good at evanglizing I'd have to understand the non-christian point of view well enough to show people that I respected them and listened to their concerns before telling them how wrong they are (though I guess I was starting to deconvert at that point - that's what I get for trying to understand the outsiders as real human beings!)

 

I still listen to some christian music, some of it because the music works for me, some out of nostaligia (for my childhood, not for the religion). Since it was never forced on me when I was younger, I don't have a strong negative reaction to it now. Mostly I just find it shallow and annoying, with music too dull to make up for the stupidity of the lyrics.

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I was a contempoary Christian DeeJay in the late 70s/early 80s....I thought even then that the vast majority of CCM was bland, outdated and creatively about 5 years behind what secular stations were playing.  I think there were exceptions like DA (aka Daniel Amos/The Swirling Eddies), Steve Taylor, some of Larry Norman's stuff.  They did a lot of provacative lyrics, challenging the crappy state of the American Church, and were ahead of the game in musical creativity.  This is the only type of Christian music I occasionally listen to now, but only the stuff from the time period.  I used to put up with the blander side of CCM too, and even liked some of the old time gospel, but that was more for the entertainment aspect,

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Nope, nope, nope.  The words always enrage me enough that I just can't listen to that stuff.  

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I used to really enjoy Steve Taylor's word-plays. He farmed his writing out to other bands later (Newsboys). But NO! I do not listen to any of it anymore, and either tossed or sold my old stuff. Actually, I may have records still packed away in boxes. The whole faith is telling us to kill ourselves and submit completely to an abusive daddy/husband. It is evil. Amy Grant's voice is pleasant, but her "gospel" message is destructive to humankind.

 

I occasionally have a tune pop into my head. I was listening to Frank Sinatra's "It Was A Very Good Year" and realized that Michael Card lifted almost the whole orchestration between verses for his "Forgiving Eyes" tune. It took me a while to figure out why that Christian tune kept popping into my mind while listening to Mr. Sinatra.

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@VacuumFlux. It would be hilarious and outrageous if someone made Christian songs about dashing the enemies' babies on rocks to satisfy our sky daddy's blood lust

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