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Hi Folks,

 

I've decided to become an Athiest the fast way and go through Genesis.  I have a word Document open and I am at Genesis 35.  I have alot of questions 9 pages or 4,000 words lol.  Not that I want my questions answered but to see how absurd some of things that are happening are.

 

Two glaring points that I think folks will find intresting.

  • Abraham gave Jacob, Issacs birth right because Abraham was dying Abraham was around 80 years old about this time and had supposidly a short period of time to live.
  • We then read that Jacob does a runner for 20 years then returns to Esau.  Then the next thing we read is that Abraham dies at 180 years old.

So Abraham thought he was dying at 80 years old yet lived another century.

Also something is shining through from Genesis that God is only favourable to those in his 'Clique'  And that when people see God etc.. Its always a one on one thing - We never hear of God appearing to the masses.

 

The fact that God is appearing to Abraham, Issaic, and Jacob and these people were also the same people who used deception on people in every place they travelled to is very intresting.  E.g. can we trust people who were essentially liars.

 

What do you think??

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That is an excellent point. I don't think I ever picked up on that. The reason that god never appeared

to the masses is obvious to everyone, but the "elect". But it is amazing that so many different versions of Xtianity exist even though only a handful of people were privileged to talk with god.Imagine how many there would be if he talked with the masses. bill

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Hi Folks,

 

I've decided to become an Athiest the fast way and go through Genesis.  I have a word Document open and I am at Genesis 35.  I have alot of questions 9 pages or 4,000 words lol.  Not that I want my questions answered but to see how absurd some of things that are happening are.

 

Two glaring points that I think folks will find intresting.

  • Abraham gave Jacob, Issacs birth right because Abraham was dying Abraham was around 80 years old about this time and had supposidly a short period of time to live.
  • We then read that Jacob does a runner for 20 years then returns to Esau.  Then the next thing we read is that Abraham dies at 180 years old.

So Abraham thought he was dying at 80 years old yet lived another century.

Also something is shining through from Genesis that God is only favourable to those in his 'Clique'  And that when people see God etc.. Its always a one on one thing - We never hear of God appearing to the masses.

 

The fact that God is appearing to Abraham, Issaic, and Jacob and these people were also the same people who used deception on people in every place they travelled to is very intresting.  E.g. can we trust people who were essentially liars.

 

What do you think??

That, and the story is told in the third person (mostly), in the same way a writer of fiction would write.  How did this author witness or observe these events?  He would have to have witnessed these events in order to know what to write.  Unless it is fiction, of course.

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Even in Exodus when they're all gathered at the foot of the mountain full of god's presence, only Moses and a handful of other people actually went to up "talk with god". Supposedly that's because god's presence was so scary that that people asked for it to be that way. Which, uh... if that's true, god has terrible people skills.

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 And that when people see God etc.. Its always a one on one thing - We never hear of God appearing to the masses.

 

The fact that God is appearing to Abraham, Issaic, and Jacob and these people were also the same people who used deception on people in every place they travelled to is very intresting.  E.g. can we trust people who were essentially liars.

 

What do you think??

 

That seems to be the way God "operates". Take practically any character from the Bible, and it is a one on one thing. The only notable exception I can think of is the revelation at Mt. Sinai for the Jewish people, if one takes it that that event literally happened. Even the Apostle Paul (the inventor of Christianity) had a revelation of Jesus Christ. Nothing has changed since Biblical times either. Mohammed with his revelations, Joseph Smith with his "golden plates" if I remember right. Probably even today, pastors at church likely talked about what they felt God had impressed upon them.

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In Herodotus 1.60, the tyrant Peisistratus rides into Athens in a chariot accompanied by the goddess Athena.  Everyone sees her and acclaims the goddess and her chosen "tyrant."  

 

Whoops... it was a very tall woman named Phye, dressed up to look like the goddess.

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In Herodotus 1.60, the tyrant Peisistratus rides into Athens in a chariot accompanied by the goddess Athena.  Everyone sees her and acclaims the goddess and her chosen "tyrant."  

 

Whoops... it was a very tall woman named Phye, dressed up to look like the goddess.

     Not "tyrant," tyrant.  He wanted to be their tyrant and thought this would help secure the position.

 

          mwc

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