Jds22 Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 http://www.fixthefamily.com/blog/6-reasons-to-not-send-your-daughter-to-college
ExXex Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Oooo kaayyyyyyyyy. Why even let your daughter out of the front door at all? 6 Reasons not to let your daughter outside: - She might meet a woman with a job and forget she's meant to have babies instead - She might see the postman, the postman is doubly dangerous as he is a man AND has a job - Men will see she's the type of woman who is allowed outside and won't respect her - She'll wear out her shoes, shoes are expensive - Something to do with society's expectations and not having the opportunity to not boast about going outside or something - She might trip over and damage her precious life-giving uterus Also! Am I a bad person for thinking in the picture at the top of the page of a married couple the wife looks like a man in a wig? 2
Jds22 Posted September 12, 2013 Author Posted September 12, 2013 My wife came from a strict baptist family. Her parents were her teachers at the baptist school she went to. She was never encouraged to go to college. Both of her brother were encouraged to go but only because of baseball. I've been tempted many times to ask them why thy didn't send her to college.
BrotherJosh Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I wonder why fundamentalist Christians hate Muslims. They really seem to have a lot in common. 3
DrGuitar Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Women and men both need education. America is becoming a nation of morons; shallow with no exposure to the realities of the world. Both parents working full time while raising a family is a bad idea. Kids needs more parental contact than a few hours at most in the evening. Why are they so preoccupied with material things that they both need to work? In fact productivity gains have not kept up with increased work hours so actually it now takes two to have what one earner had before. Think of houses, more demand but same supply = higher prices. Now takes two incomes to buy the same home one bought in 1970. Many women after having kids hate going to work and choose to stay home. Feminism is about choice not enforcing a lifestyle. 1
gall Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 http://www.fixthefamily.com/blog/6-reasons-to-not-send-your-daughter-to-college I actually read through this and almost vomitted that humans anywhere would tell this to anyone. If I showed that to someone they would think I was totally insane. There is zero reason or logic in any statement on that site. I looked over the site a bit to and wow. I know there are many sites like that on the internet but someone actually took the time to make that one look nice and work right. They put effort into their disgust. I am sickened that others might read that. I am sickened that women might read that and actually take it to heart. #2 She will be in a near occasion of sin what the fuck? So you could send her to a christian school, or a seminary academy... Or hey lock her in a vault because that seriously is the only way she is never going to be in the near occasion of sin...She can never leave the house for fear she see an add on a billboard for the local strip club or for booze. Good people we must jail her in her room and make sure she breads like an animal or she will fall into hel...I can't even finish this sarcasm. I am all about freedom of speech especially speech I don't agree with but this is going to far and I would consider this hate speech personally. Someone stop these fools. 1
ExCBooster Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 ... wow... The only thing I can say is that I would like to make the point that the English language already has a word for someone who does labour without pay, and in exchange for basic shelter and food (hopefully), while under the complete economic and social control of another human being.... slave. 4
Aggie Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Very concerning, but unfortunately not too surprising. Jds22, love the profile pic "Have you threatened your children with eternal damnation today?" Ugh, no holds barred the worst part of traditional Christianity. Because threatening people (esp children) with torture is always the best way to encourage such noble things as love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness ... not to mention clear-thinking, honesty, courage, unbiased decision-making...
Jds22 Posted September 12, 2013 Author Posted September 12, 2013 Very concerning, but unfortunately not too surprising. Jds22, love the profile pic "Have you threatened your children with eternal damnation today?" Ugh, no holds barred the worst part of traditional Christianity. Because threatening people (esp children) with torture is always the best way to encourage such noble things as love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness ... not to mention clear-thinking, honesty, courage, unbiased decision-making...
Positivist Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Wow. mm is right: The Catholic Taliban. I just find this so unbelievable. These people clearly do not understand the purpose of higher education. Hell, maybe just pull girls out of school at puberty.
seeker001 Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Ugh, so much stupid She will attract the wrong types of men. Attracting the "wrong" types of men can happen in any environment, but their definition of the wrong types of men are those who want to live off her income. It sounds to me that they are actually afraid of woman recieving training that results in her earning a higher income of than the husband. Harping on "him" supplementing "her" income, and how this results in an unhappy marriage. Who cares who is the dominant breadwinning? If the arrangement works, so what? They are both adults and if they graduated college or university, than they have both demonstrated they have working braincells. She will be in a near occasion of sin. Wow, it sounds like the author prefers to see woman kept in a child-like state. When someone turns 18, the parents need to let go and trust in how they raise their children. The primary argument seems to be that women need to be kept sexually pure, innocent, and in preserving her dignity. This is not the parents responsibility once she becomes an adult. The parents' role is to offer guidence and raise their child to become an adult. Sheltering your child from the darker side of life is only going to hurt them more than help and put the child into a more vulnerable position. They need to learn to handle what life can and will throw their way, and this can only come from experience and actually being honest about life the good and the bad. If you raise your child to use good judgement, than you need not fear (as much) about letting go. She will not learn to be a wife and mother. This is not the responsibility of the college and university to teach this. Next The cost of a degree is becoming more difficult to recoup. This reason can also be used for why guys shouldn't go to college, it is expensive for both genders. Both genders can get nowhere degrees and have a shitload of debt. More focus on the man just having to be the breadwinner instead, with no consideration for letting females be self-sufficient. You don’t have to prove anything to the world. So it is only the guy who has to prove something to the world? It could be a near occasion of sin for the parents. Again, the same can apply to the son as well, and it is not the parents' responsibility to pay for their child's schooling once they become adults. She will regret it. So females are only happy if they are mothers? There is so much stupid here, that I need to call in a specialist: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-10-26/ 2
amateur Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 This is reprehensible. The only thing I can add to everybody's good comments above is: I really hate how conservative xians insist that everybody is the same and everybody should do exactly the same thing. ALL women should get married and raise children, as it is the ONLY way they can be happy. ALL people should marry someone of the opposite sex, as it is the ONLY way they can be happy. ALL people this and ALL people that. "God made ALL people to marry someone of the opposite sex and procreate, and God made men to be the head of ALL families." *sigh* No. One of the beautiful things in this world is the incredible diversity of, well, everything. 3
TheSpiritualPilgrim Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Wow... It's truly sad that people can be that ignorant.
Guest Babylonian Dream Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Now now ladies.... are you supposed to be online communicating with a bunch of men? Get back in your kitchen and do your chores and take care of your kids like God told you to! 1
R. S. Martin Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Wow. mm is right: The Catholic Taliban. I just find this so unbelievable. These people clearly do not understand the purpose of higher education. Hell, maybe just pull girls out of school at puberty. I was raised barely one generation away from such thinking.
R. S. Martin Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Now now ladies.... are you supposed to be online communicating with a bunch of men? Get back in your kitchen and do your chores and take care of your kids like God told you to! LOL Sorry, I couldn't help it. That is just so hilarious. UPDATE: I counted the posters on this thread who said they are male. Of 17 posts, only 9 claim to be male. I'm female. that means the posts are split about half and half. No "ladies talking with a bunch of men" so there! Of course, for the fundies that makes it a "mixed crowd" with all the associated evils.
mymistake Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 This is why the (real) Taliban kills people for trying to encourage girls to go to school. Knowledge is power and men will lose their stranglehold on power in that society if women gain knowledge. That Catholic author wants to keep men in power in the West by keeping the men as the only breadwinners. Women who earn a living have dignity. That in turn leads to people questioning the "perfection" of the Bible. And questioning kills this Catholic author's world. 1
RaLeah Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Boy, where to even start on this moronic article? First, what is this guy who wrote the article, 190 years old? Also, this fixation on running into the wrong sorts of people and sinful temptation... I mean... aren't you going to run into that in the rest of the world too? And where is she supposed to meet her spouse anyway? In church? And what's she supposed to do with the rest of her time... stay in her parent's home and read books all day to educate herself? (Cuz if she gets a JOB she might meet the wrong sort of secular guys there, right?) You know, it sounds like it was written by an old white man who never went to college himself and kind of resents the idea of a daughter who surpasses him in education, doesn't it? How about 6 reasons to encourage your daughter to go to college: 1. A good education teaches how to think critically, exposes your mind to new ideas, and allows you to meet people from different backgrounds and perspectives, which fosters empathy and understanding. It also prepares you for a job in a career you might enjoy. 2. She might meet her spouse there, but if she doesn't get married early or at all, she has a means to support herself. Win / win. 3. If she does marry, it pretty much takes 2 incomes to have a decent standard of living today. Also, if she works, it takes some of the pressure off her spouse, who might need or want to take some time off for: medical reasons, career change, a new business start up, going back to college / furthering his/her own education, or spending more time with the children if she chooses to have children. At the very least (barring any emergencies) you can afford a decent, (maybe even earlier) retirement if both work... and/or they can afford to help any kids with their college expenses. 4. She'll have more opportunity for personal fulfillment. Long ago, the majority of us were farmers. Now, thanks to modern technology, we can do fulfilling work we find enjoyable, meaningful and challenging and still have food on the table (take that, curse of Adam... and thanks to birth control pills and epidurals, take that, curse of Eve). Most people without a college degree are more likely to work in lower paid / less fulfilling service jobs or manufacturing or construction. Also thanks to technology, it doesn't take a full time stay-at-home spouse to do laundry and dishes or stock the fridge with food, and thanks to the internet a lot of people can even work from home. Imagine! 5. She'll increase her knowledge and self esteem. She'll improve her talents and hone her creative skills. She'll learn about economics and budgeting and politics and culture and art. She'll become well-rounded and decrease her areas of ignorance by filling it in with truth and knowledge. She'll learn how to socialize with other people from different backgrounds and hold intelligent conversations with people she otherwise wouldn't have had enough in common with to interact with. 6. She'll learn how to think and set boundaries for herself and become an independent, autonomous person, which is very hard to do if she stays in her parents home forever... or until she marries and goes straight from there to moving in with a spouse. She'll learn how to make decisions on her own without someone else making them for her, and she'll learn personal responsibility. BONUS: Fact: College-educated women more likely to stay married and be happy in their marriage. So.... to recap: Knowledge, self esteem, fulfillment, social skills, the means for financial freedom, personal independence. If college educated women marry, they're more likely to be happy and to stay married. There you have it. If you're against your own daughter having those things, you must live in the dark ages. And you're a total cheapskate ogre. 4
BendyLine Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 But guys, if women go to college they might have S-E-X outside of holy wedlock!
R. S. Martin Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 But guys, if women go to college they might have S-E-X outside of holy wedlock! If they don't, they will for sure.
Jds22 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Posted September 13, 2013 But guys, if women go to college they might have S-E-X outside of holy wedlock! I've been thinking about going back to school. You know, to further my education.
seeker001 Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 But guys, if women go to college they might have S-E-X outside of holy wedlock! I've been thinking about going back to school. You know, to further my education. Peeps actually go to skool to get a fancy edumacation? Now that's just crazy talk
RaLeah Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 I'm sorry, but I'm STILL cracking up over this article! I can't resist poking fun at it some more. Here are his reasons (and my sarcastic exaggerations of his reasons): 1. She will attract the wrong kinds of men. Lazy men are attracted to industrious women. (See, because opposites attract, so that means that industrious men are attracted to women who don't want to work outside the home--that way he'll feel more important. You definitely want your daughter's husband to feel mentally and intellectually superior to her, don't you? That way, it will be easier for her to submit to her husband totally, as every good Catholic wife should.) Ignore the statistics that college educated men are more likely to marry college educated women: Your daughter is awesome, because she's a home schooled Catholic thanks to you, and she's definitely going to be the exception to this rule. Just trust me on this: the right kind of man (that is, totally not lazy) is going to find your daughter's purity and carefully guarded virginity so attractive and her empty resume a big turn on, because clearly she is way too good to take on any demeaning outside-the-home work, because that's so beneath the dignity of your little princess. 2. She will be in near occasion of sin. You know, she'll be out of your sight and supervision and around other people her own age instead, who can't possibly make responsible decisions with their hormones zig zagging around all over the place, and their lust raging out of control, and their complete lack of common sense. You know better than to trust your daughter in a lusty sex pit like that, don't you? 3. She will not learn to be a wife and mother. Instead, she'll learn professional skills, and then she'll want to use them, and then she'll be all like "I'm so overwhelmed by trying to also be a wife and mother at the same time!", and she'll never be able to balance all those things in her life without a complete mental breakdown. Meanwhile, her husband will have no trouble at all balancing his career with being a good dad and husband, because that's what men are for, to be the breadwinner, so he'll be just fine. She, on the other hand, will go completely crazy and get all depressed about it if she tries to do too many things at once. 4. The cost of a degree is becoming more difficult to recoup. We all know that the only purpose of a degree is job training, not getting educated, and paying off a debt will be super hard if she wants to become a teacher or some other low paid "women's work" kind of job or worse -- can't get a job at all! (Don't think about what would happen if her husband gets a degree and has a lot of debt and can't get a job at all. Because hey, they can always move back in with you. What are parents for?) 5. You don't have to prove anything to the world. Because what good is a college degree anyway aside from bragging rights for a parent? Amiright? High-ignorant-five! Who cares if you have to support your uneducated, under-employed daughter financially forever (or until a Christian man marries her and takes over the support). Just admit it, the real reason you're tempted to send your daughter to college is to keep up with the Joneses. You shallow parent, you. 6. It could be a near occasion of sin for the parents. Because they might be tempted to use contraception so they can give fewer children a more meaningful life rather than pumping out kids one after the other that they can barely afford to take care of. What a terrible, sinful mistake that would be! Family planning of any kind is clearly of the devil, so don't even think about limiting the number of your kids to what you can responsibly afford. 7. She will regret it. Because the time she spends getting an education could be put to so much better use being a wife and pumping out as many kids as she can as soon as she can, which is way more meaningful to a woman than some silly little career she can't possibly enjoy as much as chasing around after a bunch of toddlers while she's pregnant and keeping her husband's home all nice and tidy and making his dinner. 8. It could interfere with a religious vocation. Because she'll have college debts to pay off that might eliminate her from being able to take that religious job... that her degree probably made her eligible for in the first place. 2
Sybaris Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Wow. That guy illustrates a whole new level of stupid. I manage engineers and scientists (male AND female) who amaze me every day with their expertise in their respective fields and they certainly didn't achieve their level of proficiency by being fucking home schooled! 1
Recommended Posts