I Hate God

[LoneTarus]

I know "he" isn't real. but I have developed a white hot hatred towards him none the less. every time I see 

someone trying to defend the bible I want to just tear them to shreds. I find the whole concept so repulsive now that I can'

t stay silent anymore. 

 

I will probably lose a lot of "friends" online but I think I just officially ran out of bullshit. I know it makes no sense to hate something that isn't real. but the religion and the very real damage it does to people is very real and I choose to hate that. I simply can't stand by and pretend that it's all nice and acceptable and wonderful for people to destroy themselves by being brainwashed into this shit anymore. 

 

atheists are always accused of hating god, I guess in this case that is actually true. am I wrong? 

 

 

[RankStranger]

Nothing wrong with hating a destructive meme.

[LifeCycle]

It's maddening isn't it? Asking valid questions, seeking truth, seeking evidence and they only respond with more emotional-based bullshit that lacks any form of reason at all.

 

Although, I agree with you 100% being militant isn't going to do you or them any favors. And I'm not perfect. I really have to make an effort to be amicable because I want to just rip into them as well because of the damage it's done to myself and to many, many others. Unfortunately, however, they will only see your anger as a form of "persecution."

 

Just ask questions. Force them into a corner that helps them reacquaint with their brains. Maybe they'll thank you later.

[mymistake]

I know "he" isn't real. but I have developed a white hot hatred towards him none the less. every time I see 

someone trying to defend the bible I want to just tear them to shreds. I find the whole concept so repulsive now that I can'

t stay silent anymore. 

 

I will probably lose a lot of "friends" online but I think I just officially ran out of bullshit. I know it makes no sense to hate something that isn't real. but the religion and the very real damage it does to people is very real and I choose to hate that. I simply can't stand by and pretend that it's all nice and acceptable and wonderful for people to destroy themselves by being brainwashed into this shit anymore. 

 

atheists are always accused of hating god, I guess in this case that is actually true. am I wrong? 

 

 

You are not wrong to experience an emotion.  When a story is told right we feel emotions for the characters in movies and fiction.  We empathize with the hero and hate the villain.  And we know the whole time the story is make believe.  Even movies that are based on real events have a lot of fiction in them in order to make them more entertaining. 

[florduh]

I know "he" isn't real.

 

No, but the people who believe that shit are real. The idea is real. The damage is real.

[Deva]

Better to hate God than hate yourself. Go for it.

[MerryG]

 

I know "he" isn't real.

 

No, but the people who believe that shit are real. The idea is real. The damage is real.

 

 

And the obnoxious pushiness and snottiness so many Christians use to promote their god is also real.

 

I also find myself "hating god." But my rational self realizes that what I really hate is snobbish, superior, arrogant people shoving their superstitions on others, threatening anybody who disagrees with them with hellfire, then being utterly unable to answer simple, factual/logical questions. They often as not don't even know the full versions of common bible stories (e.g. they know about Lot's wife being turned to a pillar of salt, but they don't know about Lot offering his daughters to a mob or schtupping those daughters later on). They absolutely define ignorance in action.

 

What I'm really feeling is extreme frustration over the years I wasted on these people and the fact that they still go around sticking their ignorant noses into other people's business.

[MerryG]

Oh yeah, and FWIW, I also have to restrain myself from tearing into these god-pushing types. So OP, you're not alone.

 

But you'll find a way to calm yourself and let at least some of this go.

[TristanJay]

Hey, there, I'm with you, to a certain extent.  In some ways, I can't cross the point of banishing him to unreality.  And to an extent, the livid hatred towards him has cooled to a dull contempt.  I keep him around so I can tell him daily about what a failure I think he is.  I daily think thoughts to him, about what I would do to him, if I ever got my hands on him.  Just so he'll know where he stands with me.

 

As far as the notion of atheists hating God, Bernard Schweizer suggests that Atheists don't hate God, beyond the concept of being disgusted by a fictional character the read in a book.  Agnostics may hate God's character, as he is depicted in the Bible.  However, Schweizer suggests that there are people who somehow manage to believe that God exists, and absolutely hate him.  Shweizer calls these people Misotheists.

 

I'm one of them.

[RaLeah]

I really hate some of the things that fundamentalists Christians promote, especially in politics. 

 

But I can't think of God as real, even in an abstract sort of way, so I can't hate God. It feels like hating the tooth fairy. 

 

I guess we go through the de-conversion process in different ways, and your feelings are legitimate even if the "God" you direct them at isn't real.

[ExXex]

I see God more as that one ex-boyfriend who you are unsure what you ever saw in them, when all his friends phone you up and are all 'he still LOVEs you, COME BACK TO HIM'.

Kinda repulsed disdain I guess

[RenaissanceWoman]

Hey TristanJay! Interesting perspective. I learn something new every day on here.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

At one time, I also felt the same intempered rage against jesus and his whore of a bride, but I came to the conclusion that such hatred was unhealthy and would eventually consume me.  So, I made a conscious decision to treat god with the same benign indifference with which he had treated me.  The decision itself was easy enough to make; but the reality of living that decision was, naturally, a difficult task.  For the first several months, I had to continually remind myself that I just didn't care about god anymore, though I would still often fall into fits of distemper just at the very mention of his name.  Eventually, of course, it got easier.  Now, I rather enjoy a good religious fight because I know that I can put my emotions aside and defend my position with sound logical arguments even while parrying the delusion and sensationalism that christians use in place of rational thought and objectivity. 

 

Although by definition I am both an atheist and an agnostic, I generally prefer a term that a good friend of mine coined a few years ago: "apatheist" (apathy+theist) to describe a person who feels nothing more than ambivalence toward god.  Above all, I am a proud apatheist.

 

That said, I don't think there is anything wrong with a little light-duty anger; provided it doesn't define you and you use it only for entertainment value.

[TheSpiritualPilgrim]

 

I know "he" isn't real.

 

No, but the people who believe that shit are real. The idea is real. The damage is real.

 

Exactly. You hate the damage done by those who believe.  It is actually a quite moral standpoint to have.  You have every right to hate the idea of a god when you have seen and experienced the persecution, pain, suffering and division it has brought to the human race. 

[Lerk]

I just have to say that I hate religion.

 

I've been systematically going through and un-checking the "view on newsfeed" box on names who post too much religious crap. (Same for politics.) It does wonders for the newsfeed!

[Aggie]

Interesting as Christians claim to love someone who isn't there.. Yours is a natural reaction.  Nonetheless, it may be better to not be too aggressive-- but to vent somewhere like here when you need to.   Maybe you can help some people out of it?  I know I'm extremely grateful for all the speakers, writers, etc who helped me deconvert (slowly) out...

[Onyx]

If I am angry at God, it is because in the Bible, he damns us to hell and kick us upstairs to Heaven. For ETERNITY. No sense of growth, no adventure, no movement. Just stay burnt beyond googoloplexes upon googoloplexes or pluck your harp longer than googoloplexes upon googoloplexes. ETERNITY IS BEYOND ANY AMOUNT OF NUMBER YOU CAN THINK UP IN TERMS OF YEARS! That is terrifying, terrifying. Fortunately God is not real therefore I don't have to be angry at him for sheer depraved implication that he'd trap us like dolls in a box for an unimaginable amount of time. Hell and Heaven is basically the same. You just get physically harmed in one place and in the other, it will eventually drive you mind without anything touching you.But fortunately, even these aren't real, so it's up to us to grow, adventure and build a better society. Phew. At least I'm glad that we live n this universe, where we can do anything we like or go to whereever we want without a deity breathing down your neck.

[amateur]

I'm not so sure I hate god as I don't think our understanding of what an actual God would be is totally off (I mean all people, not just us -- if there was an actual God, it would be so beyond our comprehension that we couldn't affect it with our puny lives and views -- but I don't really think there is an actual God).  

 

But what I really hate are the religious people with their circular logic, their blaming of the victim, their condescension towards those who just don't feel god in their heart, and their smug views.  The bible isn't clear at all on how to be saved, faith or works, actual existence of hell or heaven, what exactly happens after we die, etc, etc, etc.  You cannot have a rational conversation with super-religious people because in their mind just questioning anything is of the devil, everything is felt in the heart, if you don't understand the bible it's because you're not a true believer so you are somehow magically not permitted to understand it (same with finding contradictions).  If you say, "Jesus said if we prayed and asked for something, we would receive it," so why don't my prayers get answered?, they just turn it right back on you with, "You aren't right with god, there must be some sin in your life you must deal with first," or "You have to wait for god's time," or "God knows what you really need, so that's what he's giving you."  

 

I wouldn't miss any "friend" who turned around everything I said, and had no sympathy when things went wrong in my life ("you must not be right with god"), or when I truly needed help their only reply was "I'll pray for you."  I would just unfriend anyone that gets like that, actually I've done that, because REAL friends are nice and actually like you and sympathize with you, and you like them back and you all treat each other nicely.  And if you disagree about something, real friends can have a real discussion, and a real debate, and stay friends and learn from each other.  And respect each other.  You aren't respecting me if you look at me with a smug expression (or type with smugness) while saying in a pitiful voice, "You're going to go to hell if you don't repent."  And I'm not respecting my crazy xian "friend" if I say stuff back like, "You're a xian robot just regurgitating what your pastor says!  You don't make any logical sense!"  I think those "friendships" can end, as they are helping neither side.

 

Surround yourself with people and things that make you smile.  Every object in your house should make you smile (pass anything on to the thrift store that you don't use or makes you feel guilty because "I should keep this because so-and-so, who I don't even like, gave it to me").  Every friend on FB should make you smile.  Every friend you spend a substantial amount of time with should make you smile.  Life is way too short and there are so many wonderful people out there that you can be friends with, there is no sense in wasting time on things or people that do not make you smile.

 

Same with god.  If even the concept of god doesn't make you smile, then just let it go.  Find what makes you smile in a spiritual or world-view sense -- is it nature?  being out in a boat? watching the stars at night? walking through the woods? creating art? dancing? holding babies? helping old people?  Spend time doing what makes you smile.

 

Good luck!  And no, you aren't wrong to hate god.  I don't believe in bible-god but I can get pretty irritated at the stupid stories about god, and his followers are definitely irritating!

[milesaway]

I think you're well within your rights to hate an abusive fictional entity like buybull god. Look at the shit his followers have caused in the past, and the shit his followers continue to cause, and for what? A bunch of superstitions based on antediluvian folk tales that have been recycled throughout the ages.

 

If people want to throw away the good things this world has to offer in favor of folk tales and superstitions, then that's their call. Their loss, their wasted lives. They have no right to make the rest of us feel like second class citizens because of it.