Church Stuffs That I Cannot Stand

[francesco]

This is my rant about my current church

Since I moved, I have been atending this church (even though I don't really like it, I don't want to broke my mother's heart)

 

it is a small church, 30-40 members attend regularly, they are in general are vey nice

and the foods are great

 

Anyway, there are things that I don't like about this church such as

 

1. Christian contemporary song

I really don't understand why they have to use this. There are so many traditional hymn that are better in term of content than the pop song that sung repeatedly for a million times

and even worse, the song does not seems to match the preaching topic. As long as you are getting emotional, jumping or raising your hand, it does not matter if it is out of topic

I never enjoyed this part of the service and usually go to the kitchen or mind wander

 

2. Oh Christian why you are so egoistical?

sometimes they have personal testimony, a session where a member come to the front and talk about how god is great, he gives me this and that, protect me, bla bla

And it is always ended with parise the lord, and everyone is getting emotional

I am usually ok with this but there was 1 testimony that bothers me so much

 

A woman came to the front and start talking about how god gave her a new job in a big company, won a free smartphone from a contest, until.....

She talked about going home to her apartment one day and saw all her neighboors were outside. It turned out that one of the main water pipe had burst and flooded the apartment.

When she finally entered her room, she saw that her room was dry. And of course it was ended with praise the lord, god is good

I cannot understand how come she could said that when her neighboors have to clean their apartments in the middle of the night

 

3. I am late

It happened before I have a car, I just moved and tried to settle in.

I rent a place near my university and used public transport everywhere

From my place to the church using public transport is about 2 to 2.5 hours ( have to change bus several times, sky train, then bus again and walk)

One day the sky train was broken, it came down into one line only. The train came every 15 minutes instead of every 4-5 minutes and had to stop for 10 minutes in some stations . At the end I was late for more than an hour.

I just came in and sit and after a few minutes the pastor change his preaching to how important the church is and how we should not be late. Ergggg.... Yes I know I was late but it is not that I wanted to be late (at least at that time)

 

Now I have a car but I prefer to be late to avoid the songs in the beggining of the service

 

 

So far this is my rant, sorry for my english

Please feel free to add any annoying experience you had in church service

[florduh]

Hello and welcome to Ex-Christian.

 

So far this is my rant, sorry for my english
Please feel free to add any annoying experience you had in church service 

 

No need to apologize for your English, I understand you with no problem.

 

As far as church, the whole thing became annoying as I slowly realized it was all bullshit.

[Fernweh]

Is someone making you attend this church? Have you considered staying at home?

[francesco]

Hello and welcome to Ex-Christian.

 

So far this is my rant, sorry for my english

Please feel free to add any annoying experience you had in church service

 

No need to apologize for your English, I understand you with no problem.

 

As far as church, the whole thing became annoying as I slowly realized it was all bullshit.

Thank you

Yes, i did realize the same thing about church

It is very annoying but sadly I have to attend it at least until the next couple of years

There are many other things that my christian friends did that annoys me

I would love to share those annoying stuff here

 

Is someone making you attend this church? Have you considered staying at home?

Yes, my mom

I really don't want to break her heart

 

There was a time when I did not really want to go and I did not go to church for 4-5 months

I said i'm busy and came to online church only to save some time (well i cannot lie to her about going to online church)

I really enjoyed those weekend, having foursome with my bed, pillow and blanket until brunch time instead of driving to church and getting bored

Online church is a great idea, i enjoyed that more than visit to church

I can do it anytime I want, i can do it on my comfortable sofa or even in my bed, and i can do it while eating some snacks and drinking beer

 

But recently she came to visit and asked me to visit a physical one

At first she said that it is just for community (they are nice person anyway) but now she said my purpose is that I have to find god

 

Well, i just visit the church regardless my motivation

[florduh]

Many of us who grew up in Christian families had to attend church as minor children. Luckily, that can all stop when we reach adulthood and no longer live under their roof and control. One day you will be able to be your own person and draw your own conclusions and live your life as you wish.

[francesco]

Many of us who grew up in Christian families had to attend church as minor children. Luckily, that can all stop when we reach adulthood and no longer live under their roof and control. One day you will be able to be your own person and draw your own conclusions and live your life as you wish.

I cannot wait until that day happens

Thank you that I can share my rant here

[RipVanWinkle]

fransco: I just want to tell you that I think you are being very kind and thoughtful by going to church to keep your mother happy. I know it gets tough sometimes doing that, but you will not regret it when you grow older. bill

[francesco]

fransco: I just want to tell you that I think you are being very kind and thoughtful by going to church to keep your mother happy. I know it gets tough sometimes doing that, but you will not regret it when you grow older. bill

Thank you very much for your support

[QualifiedCommenter]

I can't really relate with the third one, but the first two are caused by the exact same reason: modern Christianity hooks people almost entirely on emotions and with almost no logical reasoning whatsoever. For the second one, that's a common thing I see among Christians. Someone I know recently avoided working for a company that was soon after shut down, and his first thought was 'praise the lord!' Of course, there was little thought regarding all the people who had just lost their jobs.

[RenaissanceWoman]

Welcome! Your English is great, my dear. We understand you perfectly.

 

I agree about the hymns. Our church has two services, one with hymns and traditional choir, one with contemporary music from a praise band. Some people claim to really hate the hymns, how they drag on. However, I see them as an artform. They have to rhyme and fit into a tight cadence, many times over. And the vocabulary words are much richer than any contemporary song could achieve. Plus, they have imagery and concepts. As a singer, I like to think about how some lines should be sung with more volume, and others should trail off a bit. It can be nice to sing hymns, if you are paying attention.

 

There are also so many hymns, that it is easy for our organist (who knows the daily readings months in advance) to choose appropriate ones for the day. The only time I remember that being awkward was when "This is my Father's World" was chosen on Mother's Day -- and the pastor made a silly comment about that and everyone chuckled. But it went with the readings for the day, so maybe that was the first time some people actually thought about those connections. Amateurs!

 

Is your praise band any good? Just think of it as a free concert. Sometimes I would let my mind wander about how I would design shirts for the band, or how I would design an album cover if we ever decided to make a CD of our music for the congregation to buy and listen to in their cars. It was amusing to think of our middle aged lead guitar guy wearing spandex pants and standing with his legs spread apart with his guitar (why do rock star guitar guys always do that?), with us female singers sort of draped over him.

 

So just to get by, think of ways to amuse your mind.

 

As for being late -- I only go to church now every few months, just to annoy certain people with my presence, and I am late every time. I live 11 minutes from the church, but I can't get there. I hate sitting through the rah-rah announcements at the beginning anyway, so I wait until they are over and walk in while everyone is standing to sing the first hymn. Hey, at least you're there. The pastor is probably just annoyed because he was there an hour before, and the musicians probably were too, and how dare you not. That is their baggage, not yours. If he was upset about you being late, he could have pulled you aside after. How rude to use the bully puplit to belittle you. Don't let his words bother you. At least you showed up -- and it sounds like getting there is quite an ordeal.

 

If it really mattered, and they really knew you and your 2.5 hour public transit to get there, they could have found some people willing to drive and pick you up and make sure you are on time. Frankly, they should feel honored that you went to all that trouble to be in their precious presence. I don't know anyone else who would travel that amount of time for regular service. That's impressive.

 

You'll survive. Just keep coming here for support, and we'll listen and help if we can. I'm glad you found this place. I hope you are getting some relief just knowing that we are here.

[amateur]

I used to find the repetitiveness very annoying.  So many sermons were about why it was important to accept Jesus into your heart.  Ok, so I did that.  Then what?  Every few weeks the same type of theme would get repeated, but it never went much further than that.

 

Sermons about tithing.  Sermons about giving beyond tithing because they need to build a bigger space so they could "save more souls."

 

Sermons about the need to listen for god's voice to tell you exactly what to do.  I never heard god.  Never.  I never truly believed that anybody did, except a couple delusional people.  I even wondered if the preacher believed this.

 

Sermons that spent the entire time explaining why Jesus was a real, historical figure. If you're a xian going to church, why do you keep needing the main character of your religion proven to you?

[francesco]

I can't really relate with the third one, but the first two are caused by the exact same reason: modern Christianity hooks people almost entirely on emotions and with almost no logical reasoning whatsoever. For the second one, that's a common thing I see among Christians. Someone I know recently avoided working for a company that was soon after shut down, and his first thought was 'praise the lord!' Of course, there was little thought regarding all the people who had just lost their jobs.

yes, it is very egoistical 

and I wonder why other members seems fine about it 

 

Welcome! Your English is great, my dear. We understand you perfectly.

 

I agree about the hymns. Our church has two services, one with hymns and traditional choir, one with contemporary music from a praise band. Some people claim to really hate the hymns, how they drag on. However, I see them as an artform. They have to rhyme and fit into a tight cadence, many times over. And the vocabulary words are much richer than any contemporary song could achieve. Plus, they have imagery and concepts. As a singer, I like to think about how some lines should be sung with more volume, and others should trail off a bit. It can be nice to sing hymns, if you are paying attention.

 

There are also so many hymns, that it is easy for our organist (who knows the daily readings months in advance) to choose appropriate ones for the day. The only time I remember that being awkward was when "This is my Father's World" was chosen on Mother's Day -- and the pastor made a silly comment about that and everyone chuckled. But it went with the readings for the day, so maybe that was the first time some people actually thought about those connections. Amateurs!

 

Is your praise band any good? Just think of it as a free concert. Sometimes I would let my mind wander about how I would design shirts for the band, or how I would design an album cover if we ever decided to make a CD of our music for the congregation to buy and listen to in their cars. It was amusing to think of our middle aged lead guitar guy wearing spandex pants and standing with his legs spread apart with his guitar (why do rock star guitar guys always do that?), with us female singers sort of draped over him.

 

So just to get by, think of ways to amuse your mind.

 

As for being late -- I only go to church now every few months, just to annoy certain people with my presence, and I am late every time. I live 11 minutes from the church, but I can't get there. I hate sitting through the rah-rah announcements at the beginning anyway, so I wait until they are over and walk in while everyone is standing to sing the first hymn. Hey, at least you're there. The pastor is probably just annoyed because he was there an hour before, and the musicians probably were too, and how dare you not. That is their baggage, not yours. If he was upset about you being late, he could have pulled you aside after. How rude to use the bully puplit to belittle you. Don't let his words bother you. At least you showed up -- and it sounds like getting there is quite an ordeal.

 

If it really mattered, and they really knew you and your 2.5 hour public transit to get there, they could have found some people willing to drive and pick you up and make sure you are on time. Frankly, they should feel honored that you went to all that trouble to be in their precious presence. I don't know anyone else who would travel that amount of time for regular service. That's impressive.

 

You'll survive. Just keep coming here for support, and we'll listen and help if we can. I'm glad you found this place. I hope you are getting some relief just knowing that we are here.

thank you

 

Yes, CCM have a very shallow meaning and boring theme. Always about god is great, love you god. Well, I guess it is better for church that people getting high and emotional as soon as possible.

 

I cannot imagine middle age guy using spandex pant, it must be hilarious to see 

In my current church the band members are youth, mostly younger than me, so they are very excited. The female lead singer jumping around with high heel when she is singing. I always wonder how come her feet and knee can stand the torture of jumping around with the high heel.

 

about being late, I was living in a rural area so no one was near enough to pick me up. Sometimes, I could come with other but the nearest one was still 2 hours from my place. And in order to do that I had to go earlier, which was not worth it. Well, I guess it does not matter now

 

 

I used to find the repetitiveness very annoying.  So many sermons were about why it was important to accept Jesus into your heart.  Ok, so I did that.  Then what?  Every few weeks the same type of theme would get repeated, but it never went much further than that.

 

Sermons about tithing.  Sermons about giving beyond tithing because they need to build a bigger space so they could "save more souls."

 

Sermons about the need to listen for god's voice to tell you exactly what to do.  I never heard god.  Never.  I never truly believed that anybody did, except a couple delusional people.  I even wondered if the preacher believed this.

 

Sermons that spent the entire time explaining why Jesus was a real, historical figure. If you're a xian going to church, why do you keep needing the main character of your religion proven to you?

yes, repetitive is boring

I never heard the church announced its yearly calender, which shows the lack of preparation. Almost like you prepare the service on the weekly basis

The methods are also boring, always music, singing, and preaching, which shows the lack of creativity

[goldenhaze]

william7davis,

 

I agree that the OP is being thoughtful and considerate of his mother's feelings, which is admirable, but I wonder if this approach might not backfire in the coming years. What happens if he decides to come out to her later, and explains that he hasn't believed for quite some time? She might feel that he's lead her on. Granted, it may also be safer economically and emotionally to choose not to come out while still financially dependent on a parent. Just wanted to offer another possible perspective.

 

Peace,

 

GH

[francesco]

william7davis,

 

I agree that the OP is being thoughtful and considerate of his mother's feelings, which is admirable, but I wonder if this approach might not backfire in the coming years. What happens if he decides to come out to her later, and explains that he hasn't believed for quite some time? She might feel that he's lead her on. Granted, it may also be safer economically and emotionally to choose not to come out while still financially dependent on a parent. Just wanted to offer another possible perspective.

 

Peace,

 

GH

it is safer for me to not come out regardless whether I'm dependent or not

why would I wanted to add unnecessary conflict about my personal choice about god?

Most likely my families would not know since I keep going to church (physical or online) or bible study

The thing is I can choose the least boring service that I want to attend so I'm still able to stand going to church at some level

That's why I'm here, it's a safer place to me to talk about this stuff

[goldenhaze]

Francesco,

 

I was only suggesting that perhaps it might be good to face the issue head-on, rather than have it come out some later date that you don't particularly enjoy church. But you have to do whatever is most comfortable for you. I hope you can someday enjoy the freedom to choose how much you want to be involved in church. Good luck, and welcome to Ex-C!

[midniterider]

This is my rant about my current church

Since I moved, I have been atending this church (even though I don't really like it, I don't want to broke my mother's heart)

 

it is a small church, 30-40 members attend regularly, they are in general are vey nice

and the foods are great

 

Anyway, there are things that I don't like about this church such as

 

1. Christian contemporary song

I really don't understand why they have to use this. There are so many traditional hymn that are better in term of content than the pop song that sung repeatedly for a million times

and even worse, the song does not seems to match the preaching topic. As long as you are getting emotional, jumping or raising your hand, it does not matter if it is out of topic

I never enjoyed this part of the service and usually go to the kitchen or mind wander

 

2. Oh Christian why you are so egoistical?

sometimes they have personal testimony, a session where a member come to the front and talk about how god is great, he gives me this and that, protect me, bla bla

And it is always ended with parise the lord, and everyone is getting emotional

I am usually ok with this but there was 1 testimony that bothers me so much

 

A woman came to the front and start talking about how god gave her a new job in a big company, won a free smartphone from a contest, until.....

She talked about going home to her apartment one day and saw all her neighboors were outside. It turned out that one of the main water pipe had burst and flooded the apartment.

When she finally entered her room, she saw that her room was dry. And of course it was ended with praise the lord, god is good

I cannot understand how come she could said that when her neighboors have to clean their apartments in the middle of the night

 

3. I am late

It happened before I have a car, I just moved and tried to settle in.

I rent a place near my university and used public transport everywhere

From my place to the church using public transport is about 2 to 2.5 hours ( have to change bus several times, sky train, then bus again and walk)

One day the sky train was broken, it came down into one line only. The train came every 15 minutes instead of every 4-5 minutes and had to stop for 10 minutes in some stations . At the end I was late for more than an hour.

I just came in and sit and after a few minutes the pastor change his preaching to how important the church is and how we should not be late. Ergggg.... Yes I know I was late but it is not that I wanted to be late (at least at that time)

 

Now I have a car but I prefer to be late to avoid the songs in the beggining of the service

 

 

So far this is my rant, sorry for my english

Please feel free to add any annoying experience you had in church service

 

One of the lay-pastors at my old church had a pet peeve about people being late. Maybe because people missed his singing if they were late? I don't know. I think he should have been happy that we took the time to get out of bed and bring our tribe of children to the church instead of do something 'fun' . :-)

[seven77]

I have many of the same feelings towards church.

• Dislike the music. Every once in awhile, my old church would pick a song that I actually liked. They had a very talented worship pastor who liked to rework some of the CCM songs and also wrote some of his own. They also had a team of people who made special videos to go along with some of them that they played on a screen in front of the room. Mostly it was "mercy, mercy, Jesus" or "Oh I love him so...how I love him!" type music. The old pastor would always get irritated if the crowd didn't show enough enthusiasm. "WE'RE PRAISING THE LORD HERE PEOPLE!! SOUND ALIVE!!!
• Testimonies. Thankfully my old church only did these like 2-3 times a year. It was almost always a family in the congregation who had been "blessed" or "had exordinary faith". They would get to give their own sermons, and it would drag on and on and on and on....boring....
• Lateness. I only lived about 10-15 minutes away from my old church. I still struggled to get there on time. Mostly because I hated the whole meet-and-greet thing that took place before and after the worship portion of the service. Sometimes people would want to hug and pray and stuff like that. It was always really weird to me and it made me uncomfortable.

 

One thing to add:

• I always disliked the way that the OT was mostly ignored at my old church. Maybe that's because we spent about 2 years going through the book of Genesis, with generous amounts of editing along the way. After that, it was all NT, all the time.

[amateur]

Oh, I just remember something I really hated in sermons, back when I went!  I hated when the pastor would look intently at the congregation and say stupid shit like, "You aren't going to live forever on this earth!" "After you die, your money will be useless to you!"  Um, no shit.  The congregation would look back at him like he said something profound.  I was like, duh, I knew this since I was 4.  But you are STILL not getting my money now, because that money is VERY USEFUL to me now!

[francesco]

Francesco,

 

I was only suggesting that perhaps it might be good to face the issue head-on, rather than have it come out some later date that you don't particularly enjoy church. But you have to do whatever is most comfortable for you. I hope you can someday enjoy the freedom to choose how much you want to be involved in church. Good luck, and welcome to Ex-C!

Update: I already gave my parent a little hint about why I rarely visit a physical church

I said I don't like the song and the liturgy and have to drive and pay the toll for service that I don't like

and how I like the online church from my origin country more because of the songs, liturgy, at convinient of my own apartment and most importantly memory. I can see my big family in the front row sometimes 

Surprisingly, My father is the one who's kinda outraged and said stuff like online church is not a church, and the famous "For where two or three are gathered together in my Name, there am I in the midst of them"and online is not gathering

but before I argued, my mom calmed him and said it's okay if I like the online church, but sometimes it's good to visit a physical one just for social convention (apparently as long as I "go" to church, I'm okay)

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of the lay-pastors at my old church had a pet peeve about people being late. Maybe because people missed his singing if they were late? I don't know. I think he should have been happy that we took the time to get out of bed and bring our tribe of children to the church instead of do something 'fun' . :-)

 

I know, kinda annoying right? church is not a school or office where we have to be exactly on time

why can't we have a little lax on weekend?

 

 

 

I have many of the same feelings towards church.

• Dislike the music. Every once in awhile, my old church would pick a song that I actually liked. They had a very talented worship pastor who liked to rework some of the CCM songs and also wrote some of his own. They also had a team of people who made special videos to go along with some of them that they played on a screen in front of the room. Mostly it was "mercy, mercy, Jesus" or "Oh I love him so...how I love him!" type music. The old pastor would always get irritated if the crowd didn't show enough enthusiasm. "WE'RE PRAISING THE LORD HERE PEOPLE!! SOUND ALIVE!!!
• Testimonies. Thankfully my old church only did these like 2-3 times a year. It was almost always a family in the congregation who had been "blessed" or "had exordinary faith". They would get to give their own sermons, and it would drag on and on and on and on....boring....
• Lateness. I only lived about 10-15 minutes away from my old church. I still struggled to get there on time. Mostly because I hated the whole meet-and-greet thing that took place before and after the worship portion of the service. Sometimes people would want to hug and pray and stuff like that. It was always really weird to me and it made me uncomfortable.

 

One thing to add:

• I always disliked the way that the OT was mostly ignored at my old church. Maybe that's because we spent about 2 years going through the book of Genesis, with generous amounts of editing along the way. After that, it was all NT, all the time.

 

 

Oh poor you, it must be hard for you to sing that kind of song everytime + over creative pastor + over acting old pastor + boring testimony + akward social convention + cherry picking bible

are you still going to that  church?

 

Oh, I just remember something I really hated in sermons, back when I went!  I hated when the pastor would look intently at the congregation and say stupid shit like, "You aren't going to live forever on this earth!" "After you die, your money will be useless to you!"  Um, no shit.  The congregation would look back at him like he said something profound.  I was like, duh, I knew this since I was 4.  But you are STILL not getting my money now, because that money is VERY USEFUL to me now!

are you sure he did not added "so gives your money to us?" at the end of his famous sentence? lol

threaten people with death, wonder how the members can survive being reminded the fear of death everytime?

[seven77]

No, I haven't been to that church in several months. I lisen to sermons online every so often. The old pastor is no longer there; fill in guys are all pretty boring.

 

I still talk to a few people who go there. They say things have changed, not as many people since the old pastor left in the summer, around the same time I quit attending.

 

My old church only did collections like every other service. They had a drop box welded into the wall in the lobby for "anonymous donations". A lot of people paid their tithes thru auto-withdrawal directly from their checking account. (Big church, very modern.) I was like "uhm, no. no thanks. I won't give God access to my checking account."

[jdog]

Hi Francesco

I'm glad you are here and I can relate to what you have shared.

You sound like you have a sense of humor which can certainly help.

I loved where you said about the female singer in high heals jumping around.

I can just imagine that. Lol

 

I don't go to church now but there's much that was annoying which you and others have said. Music, sermons, preaching.

 

I use to find the social aspect difficult and annoying

There use to be the usual announcements and THEN the pastor would say to the congregation to take time to meet and greet people.

 

There was a lot of shaking of hands, hugging and hellos, fake smiles. Lol

I did not like that one bit. I always felt like I was put on the spot and I had to be social when I did not feel like it and I also have anxiety disorder and so I am not always comfortable around people. And going to church is a social and interactive place.

So that was a big thing for me.

[mwc]

     When I was down to going to church every easter/xmas I just sat in the back and used the time to look around and see if I could guess who was fuckable by looking at the back of their heads.  I'd generally take off as soon as the priest hit the back door for the handshakes so I rarely saw what anyone really looked like.  The fun was in the guessing.

 

          mwc

[francesco]

     When I was down to going to church every easter/xmas I just sat in the back and used the time to look around and see if I could guess who was fuckable by looking at the back of their heads.  I'd generally take off as soon as the priest hit the back door for the handshakes so I rarely saw what anyone really looked like.  The fun was in the guessing.

 

          mwc

I assume your church is a quiet big church with hundreds to thousands of people per service right?

I cannot do that in mine, it is a very small one, about 40-50 people for the only service they have. I know everyone already and cannot guess 

 

Hi Francesco

I'm glad you are here and I can relate to what you have shared.

You sound like you have a sense of humor which can certainly help.

I loved where you said about the female singer in high heals jumping around.

I can just imagine that. Lol

 

I don't go to church now but there's much that was annoying which you and others have said. Music, sermons, preaching.

 

I use to find the social aspect difficult and annoying

There use to be the usual announcements and THEN the pastor would say to the congregation to take time to meet and greet people.

 

There was a lot of shaking of hands, hugging and hellos, fake smiles. Lol

I did not like that one bit. I always felt like I was put on the spot and I had to be social when I did not feel like it and I also have anxiety disorder and so I am not always comfortable around people. And going to church is a social and interactive place.

So that was a big thing for me.

I can understand you, I'm an introvert and has not many close friends (usually sit alone in the church)

going to church is quiet challenging in that social part and the worst is, as you said, it's fake

I think you are glad that you don't have to do it anymore eh?

 

 

No, I haven't been to that church in several months. I lisen to sermons online every so often. The old pastor is no longer there; fill in guys are all pretty boring.

 

I still talk to a few people who go there. They say things have changed, not as many people since the old pastor left in the summer, around the same time I quit attending.

 

My old church only did collections like every other service. They had a drop box welded into the wall in the lobby for "anonymous donations". A lot of people paid their tithes thru auto-withdrawal directly from their checking account. (Big church, very modern.) I was like "uhm, no. no thanks. I won't give God access to my checking account."

if it's boring, why you are still listening to it?

 

ah ya, that auto withdrawal donation. They say it's for convenient but it's also means that the church can withdraw your money every week regardless your attendance. I guess it's depends on which church, the money making church probably does not even care about your attendance as long as the money keep goes in

 

and I also heard that some churches require the member to give them their income statement so the church can let the member know that they have to pay x amount this month or year year. Oh well...

[jdog]

I am mostly introvert too but can be out going and social when the mood strikes me but I have to renew my energy and escape after a while.

 

I'm on my own a lot though and have few friends. I could do with a good friend but they are hard to find.

 

And yes I am glad I do not have to engage in the church activity any more. It's a relief for me.

[francesco]

I am mostly introvert too but can be out going and social when the mood strikes me but I have to renew my energy and escape after a while.

 

I'm on my own a lot though and have few friends. I could do with a good friend but they are hard to find.

 

And yes I am glad I do not have to engage in the church activity any more. It's a relief for me.

I do glad that you are relieved, good for you for not have to face that pressure