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Nope, two flavors of arrogant crap?  Equally hideous.

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Hang on, I've got the man, your god, jesus/yaweh/allah himself, with one of the most arrogant statements of all time.

 

Think about this passage while listening to that song.

 

Lev 25:

25 The Lord said to Moses at Mount Sinai, “Speak to the Israelites and say to them:

 

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

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Nope, two flavors of arrogant crap?  Equally hideous.

 

Crap? 

 

What did you find as "hideous" in the Dylan song?

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Let's see

 

Your god, jesus/yaweh/allah:

 

  1. Instituted slavery
  2. Commanded genocide (of which you would participate while singing Dylan songs)
  3. Committed genocide

And the song is how poor god is, always being picked on.  Heh, just like Israel is always being picked on, despite committing atrocities and having American supplied nuclear weapons.

 

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Roz  "To the christian who has shown that he will dodge questions over and over again in this board"

 

Can we get back to the topic?

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  1. The god of the old testament is the same god you worship now
  2. You've dodged his atrocities he committed
  3. You believe that he's all powerful and all knowing
  4. Now you cry and moan like Dylan saying 'poor god, people pick on him and call him names'
  5. While your religion built around the worship of that supposed all powerful god coerces the government to send billions of aid to the Israelis, even after knowing the atrocities that they're committing now against their Palestinian captives
  6. And you cry about Israel getting picked on like your god

I know you can't understand it, but it's ok.  Maybe one day you will.

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  1. The god of the old testament is the same god you worship now
  2. You've dodged his atrocities he committed
  3. You believe that he's all powerful and all knowing
  4. Now you cry and moan like Dylan saying 'poor god, people pick on him and call him names'
  5. While your religion built around the worship of that supposed all powerful god coerces the government to send billions of aid to the Israelis, even after knowing the atrocities that they're committing now against their Palestinian captives
  6. And you cry about Israel getting picked on like your god

I know you can't understand it, but it's ok.  Maybe one day you will.

 

 

1. Yes, there is only one God. 

 

2. I have stated my view on these atrocities before. 

 

3.I believe God is all powerful and all knowing.  However God does have limits on what he

can do.  For example God cannot make a circle square. He works within a set of laws.

 

4.I'm not crying and moaning.

 

5.Palestinian captives? The Arab population in Israel are treated fairly and have civil rights.

 

6.See 4 :)

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I think that a more practical request to make of Christians (or any other group) would be that they not impose their beliefs on others who disagree with them.

 

This is a strawman. Everyone in society attempts to influence the beliefs of others and this translates into the push and pull we see in the political process. Any atheist who is seeking to remove the ten commandments from a courthouse is seeking to impose their will and is displaying intolerance.

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If God can make three magically one but still three, a circle square seems obtainable. Secondly If God can part a sea, flood the world, create a flaming torture chamber big enough to fit billions and burn forever and create the universe in a day then feeding and healing humans is simple, with God there are no limitations except for his willingness to do so.

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If God can make three magically one but still three, a circle square seems obtainable.

Define a square circle?

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I think that a more practical request to make of Christians (or any other group) would be that they not impose their beliefs on others who disagree with them.

 

This is a strawman. Everyone in society attempts to influence the beliefs of others and this translates into the push and pull we see in the political process. Any atheist who is seeking to remove the ten commandments from a courthouse is seeking to impose their will and is displaying intolerance.

 

 

Once again a Christian tells us that up is down and wet is dry. 

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I think that a more practical request to make of Christians (or any other group) would be that they not impose their beliefs on others who disagree with them.

 

This is a strawman. Everyone in society attempts to influence the beliefs of others and this translates into the push and pull we see in the political process. Any atheist who is seeking to remove the ten commandments from a courthouse is seeking to impose their will and is displaying intolerance.

 

Really? you just pulled that out?   You know good and well that getting the 10 commandments removed from a courthouse has nothing to do with atheists spreading their beliefs.  It is them being responsible citizens and calling out the government when it fails to live up to the 1st amendment.  One other thing, even if it wouldn't be in violation of the 1st amendment, that particular set of rules has nothing to do with our legal system, hell our legal system flies in the face of the 10 commandments at every turn.  Only 3 of those rules are also part of our laws.  Displaying commandments 1-4 ("you shall have no other god before me", sound familiar?) is blatantly trying to push the judeo-christian religion and that type of behavior or display has no place in a government facility.

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Any atheist who is seeking to remove the ten commandments from a courthouse is seeking to impose their will and is displaying intolerance.

 

No, they are seeking to impose the law of the land. Our Constitution prohibits the government from promoting religion. Believe it or not, officially we still have a secular government, not a theocracy. Not yet, anyway.

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If God can make three magically one but still three, a circle square seems obtainable.

Define a square circle?

Exactly, it's like defining 3=1=3=1=3=1

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The 10 commandments in the courthouse?

 

Staying true to Jesus we'd have to also impose Jesus teaching.

 

He who has not sinned may cast the first stone!

 

And one by one the jury left starting with the oldest first, then the judge stood and left the courtroom, Jesus said to the rapist, neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more.

 

The rapist left the courthouse on dusk and headed to the park to await an innocent jogger.

 

Fuck yeah!

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Any atheist who is seeking to remove the ten commandments from a courthouse is seeking to impose their will and is displaying intolerance.

This is a bald-faced lie and you know it perfectly well, OrdinaryClay.  

 

The law of our land provides for the separation of church and state.  Placing the 10 commandments on a public courthouse defies the law of our land.  Atheists are not alone in wishing to rectify this, secular humanists and even satanists join them. 

 

Contrariwise, christians attempting to keep gays from being able to marry or making abortion illegal are attempting to impose their will and displaying their intolerance.

 

I've seen some pretty disingenuous arguments from you, Clay; but you really shouldn't stoop to the level of lying.  I think one of the very commandments you are attempting to defend here has something to say about that.

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Define a square circle?

 

 

Define the trinity or triune god?
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It's funny when a Christian can't conjur up a reasonable answer they log off.

 

At least when JW's come to your door they have some answers(bullshit answers albeit) and stick around for a lengthy debate and at least they back up what they say with examples in their Bibles, it's actually quite impressive to be honest. Christian arguments are so hit and miss and not well thought out at all.

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impose their will and intolerance?

when christian put 10 commandments it's makes them special

so for the sake of fairness, every religion need to have an equal opportunity to put their religion motto, symbol or part of their holy book too

for example, Islam should have the same opportunity to  put syahadah in government building or buddhist can have an equal opportunity to put small buddha statue in the court room and so any other religion

and atheist can put their FSM or goddes of eternal lolly 

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impose their will and intolerance?

when christian put 10 commandments it's makes them special

so for the sake of fairness, every religion need to have an equal opportunity to put their religion motto, symbol or part of their holy book to

for example, Islam should have the same opportunity to  put syahadah in government building or buddhist can have an equal opportunity to put small buddha statue in the court room and so any other religion

and atheist can put their FSM or goddes of eternal lolly 

No, francesco, only when every last member of the human race is enslaved under the horrific yoke of christianity will true equality be established on the earth.  And christians are going to get started on it just as soon as they condense the 41,000 different interpretations of christianity down into one True FaithTM.

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impose their will and intolerance?

when christian put 10 commandments it's makes them special

so for the sake of fairness, every religion need to have an equal opportunity to put their religion motto, symbol or part of their holy book to

for example, Islam should have the same opportunity to put syahadah in government building or buddhist can have an equal opportunity to put small buddha statue in the court room and so any other religion

and atheist can put their FSM or goddes of eternal lolly

No, francesco, only when every last member of the human race is enslaved under the horrific yoke of christianity will true equality be established on the earth. And christians are going to get started on it just as soon as they condense the 41,000 different interpretations of christianity down into one True FaithTM.

And then it's a global Caste system, a One World Theocracy. Great. I imagine the Caste would look like this....

 

Chosen Christians>Super Christians>Good Christians>Shitbox Christians>Seventh Day Adventists

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impose their will and intolerance?

when christian put 10 commandments it's makes them special

so for the sake of fairness, every religion need to have an equal opportunity to put their religion motto, symbol or part of their holy book to

for example, Islam should have the same opportunity to put syahadah in government building or buddhist can have an equal opportunity to put small buddha statue in the court room and so any other religion

and atheist can put their FSM or goddes of eternal lolly

No, francesco, only when every last member of the human race is enslaved under the horrific yoke of christianity will true equality be established on the earth. And christians are going to get started on it just as soon as they condense the 41,000 different interpretations of christianity down into one True FaithTM.

And then it's a global Caste system, a One World Theocracy. Great. I imagine the Caste would look like this....

 

Chosen Christians>Super Christians>Good Christians>Shitbox Christians>Seventh Day Adventists

 

Isn't there something in the book of revelation about an individual who unites all the world through worship?  Perhaps the anti-christ will be a christian.

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impose their will and intolerance?

when christian put 10 commandments it's makes them special

so for the sake of fairness, every religion need to have an equal opportunity to put their religion motto, symbol or part of their holy book to

for example, Islam should have the same opportunity to  put syahadah in government building or buddhist can have an equal opportunity to put small buddha statue in the court room and so any other religion

and atheist can put their FSM or goddes of eternal lolly 

No, francesco, only when every last member of the human race is enslaved under the horrific yoke of christianity will true equality be established on the earth.  And christians are going to get started on it just as soon as they condense the 41,000 different interpretations of christianity down into one True FaithTM.

 

but but but....

how about my god, jonathan?

 

 

Maybe the Anti-Christ IS Christianity!

imagine,
what would jesus said to christians if he appeared today? :troll:
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