LukeExChristian Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 i was asked by my grandmother to watch "god's not dead" and i went because she asked, and on condition that she watch Evid3nc3's series. i hated it. the biggest reason of all was that it reminded me of... me. i remember being the only christian in a class full of non believers. i remember trying to be the christian influence in a secular world. i wish this feeling to go back into the bullshit would go away. i know it is not real. Occom's razor is preventing me from believing yet this "spirit man" thing that i have let guide the majority of my life continues to keep trying to shove occom's razor out of the way. has anyone dealt with this? and physically... what is in reality this "spirit man" i've felt my whole life? why wont it go away?
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted May 3, 2014 Super Moderator Posted May 3, 2014 I've been there. Early in my deconversion I felt so guilty about leaving the church that I wanted to go back. Not because it was true; but simply to alleviate the guilt (that's how it works). Thank Thor I never did. Be strong, Luke; this, too, shall pass.
Guest afireinside Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 I get pangs of guilt every so often, I try to not let myself drift into that place of superstitious homage that part of me wants to attach itself to. Sometimes I think what if I go back? What if I regret who I am now? What if I'm going through an angry phase and am blinded by the anger?. I think these are natural thoughts and feelings mate, don't pay too much attention to them.
DoubtingNate Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Did she ever watch Evid3nc3's series? That is probably the best overall presentation I've ever seen for nonbelief.
ExCBooster Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Said natural thoughts and feelings or "spirit man" can also be transferred to things aside from the Judeo-Christian "God." It might be useful, in terms of dealing with it, and understanding it, to transfer it to something that you know, dead to rights, isn't sentient. Experiment with it. Your brain is capable of some pretty nifty and outright astonishing things. Pick a favorite houseplant, tree, or particularly charismatic rock to interact with, as you would God. Try it for a while, and see what happens. If a rock can be God, either nothing is God, or everything is. There's nothing at all stopping you from trying experiments, to test things, and come to your own conclusions. Nothing at all.
LukeExChristian Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 Did she ever watch Evid3nc3's series? That is probably the best overall presentation I've ever seen for nonbelief. i just keep asking. until she does.
FreeThinkerNZ Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Did she ever watch Evid3nc3's series? That is probably the best overall presentation I've ever seen for nonbelief. i just keep asking. until she does. As long as she continues to refuse, you have a good reason not to accept any more of her requests to watch xian propaganda. 2
LukeExChristian Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 Did she ever watch Evid3nc3's series? That is probably the best overall presentation I've ever seen for nonbelief. i just keep asking. until she does. As long as she continues to refuse, you have a good reason not to accept any more of her requests to watch xian propaganda. a very valid point. i'll definenitely remember this
mymistake Posted May 4, 2014 Posted May 4, 2014 i wish this feeling to go back into the bullshit would go away. i know it is not real. Occom's razor is preventing me from believing yet this "spirit man" thing that i have let guide the majority of my life continues to keep trying to shove occom's razor out of the way. has anyone dealt with this? and physically... what is in reality this "spirit man" i've felt my whole life? why wont it go away? Spirit man is driven by emotions. Logical arguments have no effect. In my case spirit man held me back for a long time. I immersed myself in humor. Today I cannot pass the religious books at Target without giggling. I am completely free of Christianity and would never go back. Humor beats the fear from my indoctrination. Vids: Nonstampcollector Darkmatter2525 George Carlin Bill Maher Penn Jillette Websites: Atheist Pig Athiest Memebase Motifake Religion Twitter: Ricky Gervais
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted May 4, 2014 Super Moderator Posted May 4, 2014 i wish this feeling to go back into the bullshit would go away. i know it is not real. Occom's razor is preventing me from believing yet this "spirit man" thing that i have let guide the majority of my life continues to keep trying to shove occom's razor out of the way. has anyone dealt with this? and physically... what is in reality this "spirit man" i've felt my whole life? why wont it go away? Spirit man is driven by emotions. Logical arguments have no effect. In my case spirit man held me back for a long time. I immersed myself in humor. Today I cannot pass the religious books at Target without giggling. I am completely free of Christianity and would never go back. Humor beats the fear from my indoctrination. Vids: Nonstampcollector Darkmatter2525 George Carlin Bill Maher Penn Jillette Websites: Atheist Pig Athiest Memebase Motifake Religion Twitter: Ricky Gervais I felt the same way last night when I was at the pharmacy getting some medicine for Redneck Junior. Right there on the pharmacy counter was a book called "The Power of Prayer." I thought: if prayer had any power, pharmacies wouldn't exist. Other good vids can be found on youtube: Thunderf00t Christina Rad Potholer54 The Living Dinosaur The Thinking Atheist
DrNo Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 "Spirit man." This might as well be called "Emotional man." Can anyone point to any actual difference between what religious people call "spirit" and what people in general call "emotion?" When I would go to a great worship service, we might say that "my spirit was moved," or that "the Spirit was really moving," but it would be more intellectually honest to just say "I really enjoyed that" or "those songs make me so emotional." What you're experiencing is just an emotional reaction. That's it. Your brain craves the emotional high you had from being part of a religious experience. The songs, the community, the prayer, the service, all of it produced an emotional buzz that you aren't getting any more. Many of us have been there, and it will go away in time. Hang in there.
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