wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Anyone have anything to say about the British conquest of Africa? Http://exhibitions.nypl.org/africanaage/essay-colonization-of-africa.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gall Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Anyone have anything to say about the British conquest of Africa? Http://exhibitions.nypl.org/africanaage/essay-colonization-of-africa.html Yes. A question... What do you have to say about it and how is it relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 It isnt about what I have to say about it but what I want to learn about it. For some reason as a child I was obsessed with the topic but not so much these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 The brittish had concentration camps and did more damage than hitler. Only to get a slap on the wrist for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Not only were they worse than Hitler, they and the French drew arbitrary lines across the continent, trapping opposing ethnic groups together, leading to genocides such as what idi amin did to Uganda. Moreover, they took sustainable economies and forced countries to overhaul into the spice and tea trade, which they then traded for food. After the older generations that remembered the old ways had all died off, the Europeans pulled out leaving entire countries with spice and tea crops no one wanted and which they couldn't eat, leading to civil wars, famine and disease. Now, we smugly look at the Africans as if they are just some sort of lost cause to be blamed for their own failures. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Could you start from the beginning vig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 The French got paid back in full. The Brittish got away with a slap on the wrist. If History were taught correctly the union jack would be more offensive than the swastika! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Could you start from the beginning vig? not without dusting off a bunch of old info I've mostly forgotten and doing a lot of research to find sources to site. I don't have it in me these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Has Great Britain done any restitution/reparations? (They owe the Irish as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gall Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Has Great Britain done any restitution/reparations? (They owe the Irish as well) I know this is rant section but isn't it suppose to be rant about religion or deconversion? This seems pretty off topic. other than the whole divine right crap that most majors powers use to pull to justify their land grabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gall Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries. Nor are they. Everyone is to blame as citizens of earth for mucking shit up. We can either work together or act like feuding monkeys for all time. The choice really is ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Here's some good articles on the subject http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=8290&IBLOCK_ID=35 http://exiledonline.com/when-pigs-fly-and-scold-brits-lecturing-sri-lanka/ the second one is Sri Lanka, but same shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Has Great Britain done any restitution/reparations? (They owe the Irish as well) No shit. 1000 years of just pure fuckery. Individual limeys are cool, but their countries foreign policy made what the us does today look likea pillow fight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries. because we have such a say over our government's actions? I'd say people in the us military, since they volunteered, don't have much they can say, but the rest of us have every right to express our moral indignation without being accused of hypocrisy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries. because we have such a say over our government's actions? I'd say people in the us military, since they volunteered, don't have much they can say, but the rest of us have every right to express our moral indignation without being accused of hypocrisy. Do you vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Has Great Britain done any restitution/reparations? (They owe the Irish as well) I know this is rant section but isn't it suppose to be rant about religion or deconversions. Great Britain brought King Henry's Protestant Christianity to Pagan Africa. Now I put some Religion in the topic. It seems thats what u r looking for. The Great Empire has their own Church ruled by the Queen of England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries. because we have such a say over our government's actions? I'd say people in the us military, since they volunteered, don't have much they can say, but the rest of us have every right to express our moral indignation without being accused of hypocrisy. Do you vote?Oh brother. You and bo are surely joined at the hip. For the record, I have a degree in poli sci I have worked as a lobbyist in dc, I have organized and been part of the leadership team for large anti war demonstrations. And, no, I don't vote anymore as I'm educated enough to know it's an exercise in futility. btw, if u lived in the us, which anti imperialist would you have voted for, Obama or Romney? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries. America never had an empire that stretched to every continent in the world. BTW, the United States was one of many British colonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries. America never had an empire that stretched to every continent in the world. BTW, the United States was one of many British colonies. it might have just that though. Since the suez canal, the us has essentially just taken over. Instead of heavy occupation, it instead controls the developing world via imf loans and puppet leadership. And yet it still has over 1000 overseas bases 'to protect' those countries from the bad guys. today's economy doesn't demand the type of imperialism displayed by the French, English, Portuguese, et Al. All we need is to ensure our corporations have access to commodities and labor while politicians are friendly to our trade policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 People in the US are hardly in a position to criticise the UK for messing up dozens of other countries.because we have such a say over our government's actions? I'd say people in the us military, since they volunteered, don't have much they can say, but the rest of us have every right to express our moral indignation without being accused of hypocrisy.Do you vote?Oh brother. You and bo are surely joined at the hip. For the record, I have a degree in poli sci I have worked as a lobbyist in dc, I have organized and been part of the leadership team for large anti war demonstrations. And, no, I don't vote anymore as I'm educated enough to know it's an exercise in futility. btw, if u lived in the us, which anti imperialist would you have voted for, Obama or Romney? If you don't vote, then your views are meaningless. I always vote for the party most likely to stop a conservative winning. To do anything else would be the same as voting for the conservative candidate/party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yup, bo. Name one, just one voter , who has made their voice heard even 1% as much as I've made mine based on the activities I've described. You two live in a world of sound bites and platitudes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderinlostchild Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 What does bo mean? Barak obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yup, bo. Name one, just one voter , who has made their voice heard even 1% as much as I've made mine based on the activities I've described. You two live in a world of sound bites and platitudes. Voters don't achieve their goals as individuals, their strength is in numbers. If you don't vote against your enemy you are letting them win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What does bo mean? Barak obama? No, just another logically challenged poster here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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