Flutters Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 FreeThinkerNZ and I enjoyed a wonderful chat yesterday, wherein she said it was very cathartic for her to have a thread where she could vent her feelings of anger and sadness. I'm going to take her advice and start this one. I appreciate all feedback, thank you! God is one selfish bastard. To make me afraid to even doubt you, when you are the one who was never there, never gave a damn about my suffering, nor the sufferings of those I prayed for - the sick, the poor, the lost, the hopeless, the hungry, the oppressed. I cared, I cried, I ached for this evil to be eradicated. It didn't matter to you. It was you who said that if someone has the means to help, and sends a person away without clothing or food, that they were sinning. It was you who said that for one to not provide for his own was to be worse than an infidel. You have not done this. You let children starve every fucking day - to death. You are the infidel, not even doing your duty to yourself. You're a liar and a hypocrite. You keep us drugged on carrots, meanwhile time ticks away and never comes back. You are a farce, a method of control, an elegantly evolved scheme to oppress people's natural needs, desires and rightful actions of protest. You are a muzzle to the mouth, the mind and the heart. You are slavery. I am free. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
★ Citsonga ★ Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 AMEN!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 If this God you reference was imaginary and did not exist in reality (except in the minds of believers), would that not explain the issues you raise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutters Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Yes, it explains them perfectly. As others have said, this is what you would expect to see in a world that never had any sort of god. There is no god, but for whatever reason, I'm still pissed at him. It makes no sense, but I understand I have to get it out of my system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven77 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You are a farce, a method of control, an elegantly evolved scheme to oppress people's natural needs, desires and rightful actions of protest. I wouldn't say that he is elegantly evolved. After all, God never invented no evolution-ah! Here's a nice video that may be helpful and/or humorous to you. Warning: NSFW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthmama514 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well stated! I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutters Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wow. That video was great! It made me laugh, but also spoke to me deeply. Thank you. You helped me understand that god is just various facets of our deepest selves. The great and mighty suppressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Nice work, Flutters. I say to my imaginary former sky fairy: "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutters Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 BEST personal anthem! It feels so cathartic when singing the last part in particular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven77 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'd like to contribute some songs to the "personal anthem" theme... Goldfinger -- Open Your Eyes. Pretty much describes how I feel about faith and God nowadays. Especially when talking with those still in the fold. "Open your eyesTo the millions of liesThat they tell you everyday..." Also: Bad Religion - God's Love "Tell me; where is the love?In a careless creationWhen there’s no “above”There’s no justiceJust a cause and a cureAnd a bounty of sufferingIt seems we all endureAnd what I’m frightened ofIs that they call it “God’s love”Twisted torment, make-believeThere’s a truth and we all submit“Believe my eyes,” my brain compliesTo all that they interpret I know there’s no reason for alarmBut who needs perspective when it comes to pain and harm?We can change our minds; there’s a better prize They call it God’s loveMy pain is God’s love." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Yes, it explains them perfectly. As others have said, this is what you would expect to see in a world that never had any sort of god. There is no god, but for whatever reason, I'm still pissed at him. It makes no sense, but I understand I have to get it out of my system. You may wish to consider directing your anger and frustration at those humans and human institutions that promote this particular God. Those persons and organizations actually exist in reality. The God appears to be immaginary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Nice work, Flutters. I say to my imaginary former sky fairy: "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me". FTNZ you're gonna BURN, BURN YES YOU'RE GONNA BURN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Couldn't resist posting this worship song by punk band Guttermouth... "Power Up" the son of god once showed his face upon my tortilla since that day faith's renewed he won't let me faulter he guides me down a golden path he shields me from sin without the spirit life's meaningless i'll go the distance with him i've been to the point of no return suggestive posters on my wall i'd participate in gluttony greed and wanton lust i cheated on my s.a.t's once i double parked if you asked then for a cigarette there was a good chance i had one there was a good chance that i had one oh yea there's a chance that i had one oh yea there's a chance that i had one yea i'd sloth around in my underwears just watching t.v my former friends they stay out late they drink and carry on (that's wrong) they go on dates with party girls and stay in cheap motels i stay home try to better myself by burning science books once i tried to masturbate and finger my own ass when i marry i'll procreate hands off myself till then christmas easter they're okay but the meaning has been lost remember friend it wasn't santa claus who was nailed to the cross remember friend it wasn't santa oh yea it wasn't santa oh yea it wasn't santa oh yea i serve the lord at the telethon ready to man the phones for him i'll always vote pro-life those clinics should be bombed power up's here to lead the flock lead to salvation (army) jesus christ superstar is my favorite song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutters Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 You may wish to consider directing your anger and frustration at those humans and human institutions that promote this particular God. Those persons and organizations actually exist in reality. The God appears to be immaginary. I'm afraid to get angry with people. For one, it will only cause them to accuse me of being the "angry atheist" who is just mad and not rational, thus my credibility suffers. Second, I don't know that it's their fault for being as duped as I was. Third, I wouldn't know who to be angry at. I agree that being angry at some non-existent being is fruitless and stupid, but neverltheless I feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutters Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 So today I want to say that I hate that friggin chain letter called a bible. It's the exact same scheme as chain mail. "Believe what this says and do it, or bad things will happen." Send this message to everyone you know or risk punishment. Because preach the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 You may wish to consider directing your anger and frustration at those humans and human institutions that promote this particular God. Those persons and organizations actually exist in reality. The God appears to be immaginary. I'm afraid to get angry with people. For one, it will only cause them to accuse me of being the "angry atheist" who is just mad and not rational, thus my credibility suffers. Second, I don't know that it's their fault for being as duped as I was. Third, I wouldn't know who to be angry at. I agree that being angry at some non-existent being is fruitless and stupid, but neverltheless I feel it. Fair enough. Perhaps you are angry with yourself for buying into certain religious dogma. Addressing and mitigating anger is healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Nice work, Flutters. I say to my imaginary former sky fairy: "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me". FTNZ you're gonna BURN, BURN YES YOU'RE GONNA BURN!!! Meh. I'll take that chance Couldn't resist posting this worship song by punk band Guttermouth... "Power Up" That was hilarious, thank you for posting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 You may wish to consider directing your anger and frustration at those humans and human institutions that promote this particular God. Those persons and organizations actually exist in reality. The God appears to be immaginary. I'm afraid to get angry with people. For one, it will only cause them to accuse me of being the "angry atheist" who is just mad and not rational, thus my credibility suffers. Second, I don't know that it's their fault for being as duped as I was. Third, I wouldn't know who to be angry at. I agree that being angry at some non-existent being is fruitless and stupid, but neverltheless I feel it. You don't need to tell them you're angry with them. I am angry with all the people throughout history who maintained the xianity myth and ensured its survival and prosperity for 1,900 years. I'm not mad at my parents for transmitting the God Virus to me because they didn't know any better, but I am mad at other unknown and unknowable people who ensured that xianity would be part of my culture. I'm mad at xianity for existing. And I'm angry with xians and xian institutions for imposing their beliefs and practices on everyone else through laws and politics. The xians who accost women trying to enter abortion clinics make me especially angry. And the ones who say homosexuality is a sin (ie a choice and a moral issue when it's the way some of us are born). And the ones who raise girls to be submissive, and boys to exploit that. These are some of the issues I am most angry with xianity about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 My prior anger at those folks has morphed into disdain or sadness, depending on the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest afireinside Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So today I want to say that I hate that friggin chain letter called a bible. It's the exact same scheme as chain mail. "Believe what this says and do it, or bad things will happen." Send this message to everyone you know or risk punishment. Because preach the word. That's a good comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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