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My dad is preaching apocalyptic rethoric. He believes that as we experience the upcoming Blood Moons, that the United States will experience a nuclear attack via submarines in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. He's spewing the likes of TD Hale, who had a prophetic "dream" about Obama taking away our freedoms.

 

He's saying that shit's gonna hit the fan during the Fall, as Yum Kippur nears. He has me terrified, on the verge of an anxiety attack, and dreading the end of the year.

 

I'm planning on moving to Canada to be with my boyfriend in November, and now I fear that I may never get to live out the rest of my days with him.

 

Please help me :(

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I'm assuming that the fact that you're here means that at least part of you knows that what he's saying is total Bullshit. Can you get away from him or do you live with him?

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Your dad is wrong. Every year for the past thousand, someone has been convinced the world is ending, and it doesn't. My mom was convinced it would end in 1982. It didn't, and it won't end now. You can relax about it.

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Yeah.  That's not going to happen.  That mentality is certifiably insane.  If you have specific concerns we will be happy to help you. :)

It might help us if you tell us your approximate age.

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My dad is preaching apocalyptic rethoric. He believes that as we experience the upcoming Blood Moons, that the United States will experience a nuclear attack via submarines in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. He's spewing the likes of TD Hale, who had a prophetic "dream" about Obama taking away our freedoms.

 

He's saying that shit's gonna hit the fan during the Fall, as Yum Kippur nears. He has me terrified, on the verge of an anxiety attack, and dreading the end of the year.

 

I'm planning on moving to Canada to be with my boyfriend in November, and now I fear that I may never get to live out the rest of my days with him.

 

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First, welcome to the forums. smile.png

 

It's hard to cope with alarmists, who want everyone to share in their gloom and doom outlook of the world. You have your own set of values, I'm sure. Keep repeating those to yourself. While your dad might serve as an influencer, you are your own person. You can choose your own thoughts. Your dad is his own person, too, and you can't change other people...only how you choose to deal with them. Or respond to them. Or not respond to them. lol You can find peace if you search in yourself for it. Keeping you in my thoughts, and I have a strong feeling, you'll be moving to Canada with your bf! smile.png

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When you and your boyfriend settle down in Canada, get your favorite drink and think back on this thread with a smile.  Don't worry Z, the apocalypse rhetoric from your dad will be just like all the other doomsday nonsense throughout the years.

 

Here's just some of the other ones that have come and gone:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

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Yeah.  That's not going to happen.  That mentality is certifiably insane.  If you have specific concerns we will be happy to help you. smile.png

 

It might help us if you tell us your approximate age.

I regret to say that I am 21 years old. I know that I should be more rational and perceptive than that, but I am genuinely scared. I know that there is no substance to what ANY of those "prophets" are saying. I'm just thinking "what if."

 

This basically sums up all of my dad's beliefs:

 

http://www.tribulation-now.org/apocalyptic-signs/prophecies-predictions/

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I can prophesy better than your dad: I hereby prophesy that his prophesy is 100% wrong. Seriously, use this crazy prophesy when it fails ( which it surely will) as evidence that, as far as messages to your dad from god, your dad doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. This bullshit has been going on in virtually every generation since the death of christ, Get this: There are even new religious movements that have risen after the prophesy  failed. The founder of the Seventh Day Adventists predicted the return of Jesus and the apocalypse at a specific time and date which,of course, failed, But this leader had become so popular that she started the new church by recalculating the prophesy and keeping the faithful with her. This is really crazy stuff.

Florduh is dead on: 

Get away from that nutbag and get some counseling. floduh

 

 

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My dad is preaching apocalyptic rethoric. He believes that as we experience the upcoming Blood Moons, that the United States will experience a nuclear attack via submarines in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. He's spewing the likes of TD Hale, who had a prophetic "dream" about Obama taking away our freedoms.

 

He's saying that shit's gonna hit the fan during the Fall, as Yum Kippur nears. He has me terrified, on the verge of an anxiety attack, and dreading the end of the year.

 

I'm planning on moving to Canada to be with my boyfriend in November, and now I fear that I may never get to live out the rest of my days with him.

 

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Your father is delusional.  More succinctly, he is full of shit.  His actions are likely fueled by testosterone, a psychological need to control and a deep and hidden insecurity.

 

Although it will be difficult, at your young age, you will eventually learn how to avoid the current codependency and be your own person.

 

Good luck.

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And what will your dad say when all of this turns out to be wrong?

 

Typically the nuts find some other prophesy and make up a later date.  No matter how many times they are wrong they think they are not wrong about the End Times.

 

 

Zeldarocks where you are now is the place I was back in the 1980's.  And the end of the world didn't happen then either.  Figure out a way to get away from your family.

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Yeah.  That's not going to happen.  That mentality is certifiably insane.  If you have specific concerns we will be happy to help you. smile.png

 

It might help us if you tell us your approximate age.

I regret to say that I am 21 years old. I know that I should be more rational and perceptive than that, but I am genuinely scared. I know that there is no substance to what ANY of those "prophets" are saying. I'm just thinking "what if."

 

This basically sums up all of my dad's beliefs:

 

http://www.tribulation-now.org/apocalyptic-signs/prophecies-predictions/

 

Prophecies like that are a dime a dozen, but I was still pretty brainwashed at that age as well.  Don't be hard on yourself.  Just use your resources and consider what is probable, rather than what might be possible.  We have no need to base our lives on mere possibilities, especially if they are unlikely.

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Yeah.  That's not going to happen.  That mentality is certifiably insane.  If you have specific concerns we will be happy to help you. smile.png

 

It might help us if you tell us your approximate age.

I regret to say that I am 21 years old. I know that I should be more rational and perceptive than that, but I am genuinely scared. I know that there is no substance to what ANY of those "prophets" are saying. I'm just thinking "what if."

 

This basically sums up all of my dad's beliefs:

 

http://www.tribulation-now.org/apocalyptic-signs/prophecies-predictions/

 

 

 

 

Q: What is the Strong Delusion?   

 

A: Christianity, of course.  There is no reason to believe anything about Christianity is true but pastors and priests will use every trick to turn you into their slave.

 

 

 

Q: America Will Burn!

 

A:  Uh no it won't.

 

 

 

Q:  Business cards for witnessing!

 

A:  Don't bother.  Witnessing only works if the target was indoctrinated with some kind of religion as a child or if they are the middle of emotional distress that interfears with their rational thinking.

 

 

 

Q: Cataclysmic darkness and demons and spiritual warfare!

 

A:  All of that is myth.  Those things are not real.

 

 

 

Q: John the Batpist's Testimony!

 

A:  The Bible version of it is fiction.  Christian writers made John the Baptist say whatever they wanted him to say.  In reality John the Baptist has his own religion but Jesus Christ didn't exist.

 

 

 

Q:  The definitive Rapture scripture show

 

A:  Revelation was written in response to the Roman Jewish War.  It was about event that happened one thousand nine hundred years ago.  Jesus didn't come back because Jesus isn't real.

 

 

 

Q:  Aliens are coming before the Rapture!

 

A:  Both are just as real as the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

 

 

Q:  How to hear God's voice!

 

A:  Delude yourself into thinking your own internal voice is sometimes God's voice.  This is very dangerous because you might also delude yourself into thinking your own internal voice can be the Devil's voice too.  This way lies madness.

 

 

 

Q :  How to pray and the power of praise!

 

A:   Nothing fails like prayer.  No matter what the outcome the believers will make up some excuse for why events continued on as if by random chance.  Humans are hard wired to bargain even when there is nobody in control to make a deal.  It is frightening to imagine that there are no powerful gods who can make a difference if we just persuade them.  This is where all human religion comes from.  We try to please or persuade gods because we do not want to accept that there are none.

 

 

 

Q:  The Sumerian gods are not our creator.

 

A:  Of course not.  However the Sumerian gods were invented thousand of years before the Hebrew gods such as Yahweh or Jehovah.  And the Hebrews started out as polytheistic.  Jehovah had a wife goddess.  Christianity is a religion that evolved from many previous religions.

 

 

 

Q:  Most Critical Prophecies

 

A:  Prophecies are merely tricks.  Often they were written down after the fact to make it look like somebody made an accurate prediction.  Other times they are vague words that barely have any meaning and religious leaders put massive spin to force something into being a true prophecy.

 

 

 

Q:  What is a false prophet?

 

A:  Anybody who claims or acts like a prophet.

 

 

 

Q:  Revelation made simple!

 

A:  The whole thing is a load of hogwash.  It is that simple.

 

 

 

Q:  How to get saved!

 

A:  Nobody gets saved because there is no afterlife.  I've got good news.  You are not destined to hell.  There is no sin.

 

 

 

Q:  Being holy!

 

A:  There is no such thing.  However plenty of people are stuck up snobs pretending they are holy.  Don't do that.  It's annoying.

 

 

 

Q:  Advise to a porn addict

 

A:  If you aren't taking porn to work then you are probably not an addict.  Stop worrying about thought crime.  There is no dictator in the sky watching you watch porn.  Be sure to use only legal and ethical porn - the kind made by consenting adults for consenting adults.  Consent is the thing that make sex and sexuality righteous.  We don't hear Christians talk too much about consent because humans invented the concept after the Bible was created.  The Bible authors thought that women were property and the owner made the sex rules.  But we live in the 21st century now so we don't have to act like the barbarians of the Bible. 

 

 

Q:  Baptism of the Holy Spirit

 

A:  No such thing.

 

 

 

Q:  Vissions and dreams

 

A:  You mean hallucinations and dreams.  Both are completely random and have no spiritual meaning.

 

 

 

Q: Angel wars and the original sin.

 

A:  Do not exist.

 

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How could these be hallucinations and the like? These individuals are not the kind to abuse hallucinogenic substances; furthermore, these are very specific and coherent in their content and message...

 

I just don't see it as mere hallucinations/mental illness.

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My mum is 91 years old now and she has been a fundy all her life. but one of the smart things she warned me about when I was very young is that there have been dozens of these stories that the second coming is very near and happening on a particular date.

 

They all come and go. Try and concentrate on living and improving your life in the here and now. You hear all these storied about Christians that don't make sensible decisions about their financial and career futures because they don't think that there is a future!

 

The move to Canada sounds good. As far as I can work out, the Canadians aren't quite so obsessed with the religious crap.

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Zelda, I grew up hearing "the End is nigh" practically every day. My mom loved that stuff, my grandparents still do. They're convinced the rapture will take place before their deaths (something to do with their generation and the State of Israel). They're convinced Obama's a Muslim Illuminati Freemason terrorist. Etc.

 

Eventually you get tired of being told "the End is nigh!" You said that 14 years ago! "Yes, and things have only gotten worse! The End is nigh!"

 

My advice? Let it go. Ignore it. Study French. Move to Canada. Just get on with your life.

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Yeah. That's not going to happen. That mentality is certifiably insane. If you have specific concerns we will be happy to help you. :)

It might help us if you tell us your approximate age.

 

I regret to say that I am 21 years old. I know that I should be more rational and perceptive than that, but I am genuinely scared. I know that there is no substance to what ANY of those "prophets" are saying. I'm just thinking "what if."

This basically sums up all of my dad's beliefs:

http://www.tribulation-now.org/apocalyptic-signs/prophecies-predictions/

I am sorry you are so scared. You are not the only person who has such fears.

 

Take a close look at all the failed "prophecies" set forth on the very website you linked to on your post. Supposedly, there was going to be a nuclear holocaust shortly after Obama's reelection. It never happened. It's all bunk spoken by fear mongers who take morbid pleasure in scaring people with their lies and deceit.

 

Do you know what Revelation is really all about? It is about the Christian persecution in the year 64-65 a.d. by the Roman Emperor Nero. In fact, the Beast of Revelation 13 with the mark 666 is none other than Nero. It has nothing whatsoever to do with anything today.

 

The four blood moon talk, led most popularly by John Hagee is more silly fear mongering. Blood moons refer to nothing but a total lunar eclipse. There is nothing magic or scary about them. Hagee and others are simply making false associations between lunar eclipses during Jewish festivals and important historical events. But there are numerous important historical events related to the Jews for which there is no association with lunar eclipses. Hagee and others like him ignore those other important events not associated with lunar eclipses and that is how they make false and meaningless associations.

 

Don't be fooled by the end-times lies!

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Zeldarocks,

 

Having heard a bit more about your situation when you came into the chat room, and casting my eye over your previous posts, it really saddens me to know what you're going through.

 

As I understand it, you're living in cramped quarters with your Dad and he plays audio about these conspiracies all the time.  You try to shut it out by listening to your own audio via headphones, but it is not enough to get away completely.

 

I agree with what Human said, you need to make yourself a plan or strategy for getting through the remaining time before you move to Canada.  I suggest a two-pronged approach of (a) minimising the amount of time you spend at home with him there and (B) getting support for your emotional wellbeing.

 

You may be able to minimise the time spent at home by going out, including to free places like a public library.  There might be community organisations that can help by providing somewhere to hang out.  You could stay with friends or family for short periods of a few days at a time.  You could also ask community organisations for information about alternative accommodation options.

 

Reaching out for help with phonelines and/or professionals is a great idea.  So is coming here and hanging out with us.  There are lots of people here who have been through stuff like this and who know what its like.  Tell us some more about yourself - what are your hobbies and interests, what do you like to do?  Thinking about and doing the things that are important to you can give you a focus away from him and his beliefs.  

 

I hope we can help you get through this time.  It sucks that your Dad has these beliefs and is imposing them on you when you aren't really in a position to easily get away or tell him to stop.  

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My dad is preaching apocalyptic rethoric. He believes that as we experience the upcoming Blood Moons, that the United States will experience a nuclear attack via submarines in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. He's spewing the likes of TD Hale, who had a prophetic "dream" about Obama taking away our freedoms.

 

He's saying that shit's gonna hit the fan during the Fall, as Yum Kippur nears. He has me terrified, on the verge of an anxiety attack, and dreading the end of the year.

 

I'm planning on moving to Canada to be with my boyfriend in November, and now I fear that I may never get to live out the rest of my days with him.

 

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Seriously?

 

Does he stand on street corners with signs too?

 

There have been "red" moons all my life and in the lives of all people for I am guessing all of human existence. The features that cause this have existed longer than we have most likely.

 

Also there have been 10's of thousands of nuclear weapons on the planet for what like 60 years or so at this point and only one was ever used in an actual attack on anyone.

 

 

Tell you dad to drink more coffee, whiskey or go smoke a joint and have a laugh because right now he is just being absurd.

 

 

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I really need to ask this... Are you being serious or did I just get trolled?

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My dad is preaching apocalyptic rethoric. He believes that as we experience the upcoming Blood Moons, that the United States will experience a nuclear attack via submarines in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. He's spewing the likes of TD Hale, who had a prophetic "dream" about Obama taking away our freedoms.

 

He's saying that shit's gonna hit the fan during the Fall, as Yum Kippur nears. He has me terrified, on the verge of an anxiety attack, and dreading the end of the year.

 

I'm planning on moving to Canada to be with my boyfriend in November, and now I fear that I may never get to live out the rest of my days with him.

 

Please help me sad.png

 

Seriously?

 

Does he stand on street corners with signs too?

 

There have been "red" moons all my life and in the lives of all people for I am guessing all of human existence. The features that cause this have existed longer than we have most likely.

 

Also there have been 10's of thousands of nuclear weapons on the planet for what like 60 years or so at this point and only one was ever used in an actual attack on anyone.

 

 

Tell you dad to drink more coffee, whiskey or go smoke a joint and have a laugh because right now he is just being absurd.

 

 

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I really need to ask this... Are you being serious or did I just get trolled?

 

I'm pretty sure he's being serious.  

 

BTW Yes the Dad is being absurd, but he's not likely to be able to take a joke about it.

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My dad is preaching apocalyptic rethoric. He believes that as we experience the upcoming Blood Moons, that the United States will experience a nuclear attack via submarines in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. He's spewing the likes of TD Hale, who had a prophetic "dream" about Obama taking away our freedoms.

 

He's saying that shit's gonna hit the fan during the Fall, as Yum Kippur nears. He has me terrified, on the verge of an anxiety attack, and dreading the end of the year.

 

I'm planning on moving to Canada to be with my boyfriend in November, and now I fear that I may never get to live out the rest of my days with him.

 

Please help me sad.png

 

How about move to Canada next week instead.

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How could these be hallucinations and the like? These individuals are not the kind to abuse hallucinogenic substances; furthermore, these are very specific and coherent in their content and message...

 

I just don't see it as mere hallucinations/mental illness.

 

I don't think it is mental illness.  Humans are very open to suggestion.  Especially if they have invested in a whacky world view.  As for specific or coherent that is the way hallucinations work.  The mind already knows how to make images and sounds in our perception.  Remember any good dreams?  Your mind creates all of that in what feels like real time.

 

Christians set themselves up for a world where Jesus has to be real and then they start to see confirmation where there is none.

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Zelda, don't be afraid.

 

I'm an amateur astronomer with decades of sky-watching under my belt.

Please do a Google Image Search, using the words, "Lunar Eclipse" ...and see what kind of results you get. 

Do those eclipsed Moons look at all bloody to you? 

 

Guess what?

EVERY lunar eclipse (and there have been MANY THOUSANDS in recorded history) looks bloody.  This is not unusual or significant or the sign of anything supernatural or apocalyptic.  I've personally witnessed three in my lifetime.  Sure, they look spooky and to the ancient Israelites they would have seemed like the hand of God.  But to those who understand what's really happening, there's nothing at all mysterious or perplexing in a blood Moon.

 

Please visit this page... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_eclipse

...to learn more about the reality of lunar eclipses.  I'd also recommend following links # 8 and # 9.  The Christian Science Monitor can be relied on to give a sound scientific explanation of this.  So can the Earth & Sky site.

 

Please read, learn and understand.

Understanding banishes fear because fear is often based on ignorance.  Please don't be afraid, Zelda.  You're giving the fear power over you if you do that.  Instead, learn and drive away the fear with understanding.

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I'm happy to help out and answer your questions about this if you want, ok?

 

Thanks,

 

BAA.

 

 

 

 

 

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My dad is preaching apocalyptic rethoric. He believes that as we experience the upcoming Blood Moons, that the United States will experience a nuclear attack via submarines in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. He's spewing the likes of TD Hale, who had a prophetic "dream" about Obama taking away our freedoms.

 

He's saying that shit's gonna hit the fan during the Fall, as Yum Kippur nears. He has me terrified, on the verge of an anxiety attack, and dreading the end of the year.

 

I'm planning on moving to Canada to be with my boyfriend in November, and now I fear that I may never get to live out the rest of my days with him.

 

Please help me sad.png

 

Seriously?

 

Does he stand on street corners with signs too?

 

There have been "red" moons all my life and in the lives of all people for I am guessing all of human existence. The features that cause this have existed longer than we have most likely.

 

Also there have been 10's of thousands of nuclear weapons on the planet for what like 60 years or so at this point and only one was ever used in an actual attack on anyone.

 

 

Tell you dad to drink more coffee, whiskey or go smoke a joint and have a laugh because right now he is just being absurd.

 

 

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I really need to ask this... Are you being serious or did I just get trolled?

 

 

 

I'm being 100 percent serious. He's not one to stand on street corners. He's not physically aggressive. But I can't stand his beliefs. I love him and he loves me, as does my mom. The reason I haven't mentioned her is that she is more or less on my corner. She's the one who asked dad on my behalf to quit all this. As much as she doesn't want to admit that she's on my corner, I feel that she is willing to admit that. She's still listening to him and also believes shit will hit the fan, but she's at least not as vocal and expressive about it when confronted about it.

 

In retrospect, I feel like I may have exaggerated my situtation slightly. He doesn't listen to it all the time, but when he does, it has been stressing me. He has given me anxiety attacks in the past. He's not physicall aggressive in the slightest, just very fervent and unashamed of what he believes. Other than that, he can be a very rational person.

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He has given me anxiety attacks in the past.

 

 

That might be emotional abuse, a very common problem within Christianity.  At the very least a reasonable parent would notice a child has a problem with anxiety attacks and take measures to avoid triggering such attacks.

 

 

Work on a way to move out on your own.  It may not be possible to implement yet but work on it.

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