Hell Bound Gays

[Castiel233]

Given that evangelicals feel the need to witness at gay pride parades, yet are usually strangely  quiet when witnessing to Muslims for having the wrong theology, do today's believers care more for the souls of the gay community than they do for those of the Islamic faith, or are they frightened of getting a good (literal) kicking from their fellow theists.......despite "wearing the armour" of Jesus.  

[Fernweh]

The Muslims appear to be far more devout in their faith and I think this scares Christians.

[pratt]

gays don't kill people for what you say about them, muslims MAY kill you if you draw a picture of mohamad or god,,,,

 

even penn jillette stays away from commenting on koran or allah

[ExCBooster]

I think they don't spend a lot of time debating other monotheist belief systems, because it shows up just how badly Pascal's Wager falls flat on it's face. You see, if they keep it between them and "non-believers" then they can pretend that the false choice is a good one. The second you get a spat between two monotheist beliefs, it quickly turns into:

 

NO U!!!1!one!!!

 

Because both of them have to actually accept most of the other's basic premises... yet come to different conclusions in a very inflexible way. It just highlights so elegantly how belief is not logical - it can be used to come to different and mutually exclusive conclusions, neither of which can actually prove they are correct, without sabotaging the basis of their own faith. The simple existence of Jewish people or Muslim people points out how inconsistent and unconvincing Christianity is without a culture to indoctrinate people and back up the faith in specifically their version of One God.

 

Edit: I mean, seriously, what are you going to say? "Well, I believe you're wrong about YOUR holy book, because it says in OUR holy book that it's the one that's right?" You can't even argue against THEIR holy book and arguments, calling it circular logic (which it is), without deep-six-ing your own position. It's hilarious.

[Fernweh]

I think they don't spend a lot of time debating other monotheist belief systems, because it shows up just how badly Pascal's Wager falls flat on it's face. You see, if they keep it between them and "non-believers" then they can pretend that the false choice is a good one. The second you get a spat between two monotheist beliefs, it quickly turns into:

 

NO U!!!1!one!!!

 

Because both of them have to actually accept most of the other's basic premises... yet come to different conclusions in a very inflexible way. It just highlights so elegantly how belief is not logical - it can be used to come to different and mutually exclusive conclusions, neither of which can actually prove they are correct, without sabotaging the basis of their own faith. The simple existence of Jewish people or Muslim people points out how inconsistent and unconvincing Christianity is without a culture to indoctrinate people and back up the faith in specifically their version of One God.

 

Edit: I mean, seriously, what are you going to say? "Well, I believe you're wrong about YOUR holy book, because it says in OUR holy book that it's the one that's right?" You can't even argue against THEIR holy book and arguments, calling it circular logic (which it is), without deep-six-ing your own position. It's hilarious.

 

Historically, this big problem has been reconciled with artillery, genocide, crusades, and all other atrocities one can imagine.

[ExCBooster]

 

I think they don't spend a lot of time debating other monotheist belief systems, because it shows up just how badly Pascal's Wager falls flat on it's face. You see, if they keep it between them and "non-believers" then they can pretend that the false choice is a good one. The second you get a spat between two monotheist beliefs, it quickly turns into:

 

NO U!!!1!one!!!

 

Because both of them have to actually accept most of the other's basic premises... yet come to different conclusions in a very inflexible way. It just highlights so elegantly how belief is not logical - it can be used to come to different and mutually exclusive conclusions, neither of which can actually prove they are correct, without sabotaging the basis of their own faith. The simple existence of Jewish people or Muslim people points out how inconsistent and unconvincing Christianity is without a culture to indoctrinate people and back up the faith in specifically their version of One God.

 

Edit: I mean, seriously, what are you going to say? "Well, I believe you're wrong about YOUR holy book, because it says in OUR holy book that it's the one that's right?" You can't even argue against THEIR holy book and arguments, calling it circular logic (which it is), without deep-six-ing your own position. It's hilarious.

 

Historically, this big problem has been reconciled with artillery, genocide, crusades, and all other atrocities one can imagine.

 

There's nothing quite as threatening as someone who believes almost, but not quite, exactly what you believe - heretics.

[Castiel233]

I remember reading once something along the lines that William Lane Craig said that Muslims are experiencing God, but only in the general sense as they don't have the right theology.......the counter to which is that WLC is experiencing Allah, but only generally because he has the wrong theology 

[seven77]

I think it is probably more a cultural thing here in the US. Muslims are a very small part of the population. Most Americans don't know any Muslims and think of Islam as some distant, foreign belief system.

 

Whereas the LGBT community is fairly widespread AND vocal in many parts of the US. Especially since some states have legalized same-sex marriages and many larger public high schools and universities have LGBT clubs and organizations on campus. It's surely an agenda, an evil one straight from hell.

 

Also, the Bible clearly mentions and prohibits homosexuality. So it's something that Christians feel very certain about. They think it's ok to point out the "sin" of homosexuality.

 

There isn't anything in the Bible about Muslims, so most Christians just don't say much about them unless they see or hear a trigger on the news aka ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, etc. Then it's all shit-talk.

[BinkleyBoo]

one of the hottest topics in the church we left was same-sex marriage .... because dontchaknow, gay folks were destroying the foundation of all families, everywhere. never mind the sunday school teacher who stole another man's wife and kids, or the pastor who couldn't tell the truth to save his life, and used church funds as his personal piggy bank .... or the multiple marriages destroyed by adultery, some within the church. the GAY folks are gonna ruin everything. so yeah, they didn't care much about muslims.

 

and it wasn't that they gave a crap about the souls of the gay community. they were just somebody to 'take a stand' against.