BuddhistCommunist Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Well I'm assuming a good portion of you know who I am. BC! The radical communist who takes it to the streets with Christians every chance he gets. Now my political Ideologies aside, I have been quite active in the Exchristian community with helping to rid ourselves of the christian menace. Well, I am an active supporter of other faiths trying to make their life in this Pseudo-Theocracy a little more tolerable and played a key role in the defeating of Daniel, (not that he was intelligent, just really stubborn). Now sorry if i sound like an Egomaniac, (which i am) But I do know where credit is needed for others. Crazy-Tiger, Han, Nivek and many others have been working hard in order to help others see reality for what it is and for people to open their minds. 1. Christianity is vulnerable! Christianity is a system of beliefs, none of which can be proven, that seeks to incorporate others to join their "spiritual" cause for either money, self-righteous reasons, fear for others souls, or companionship for the "afterlife". Karl Marx once said "Religion is the Opiate of the people" it allows people to tolerate their harsh conditions in life with the promise of a fictional afterlife. Religion is very dangerous... It brainwashes entire masses into its bidding and its all orchestrated by radical ministers and government officials. I once heard that If the government were to tax churches then our National debt, ($8,000,000,000,000) would be gone in ten years. The church buisness is very popular and is probablythe most successful corporation in america. The churches are run very much like corporations. Well you know that Christianity is evil so let me get to my main point. 2. How to defeat it! As I said before, Christianity is vulnerable! No christian can realistically attack science or Logic, (the foundation of Atheism and very important to Buddhism and many others) Oh trust me they have tried but very unsuccessfully. If we look at the average christian and the way they debate, they will defend any part of the bible, no matter how infinitesimal it is. The way to fight this is, to back them into a corner. If you can pin down enough evidence on the area they are defending, then they cannot win. The Exchristian community wont always be there for you, there will be many times you will have to defend what is true outside of the internet, the best thing you could do is be ready for it. When I was evacuated to San Antonio after Hurricane Rita, I had to deal with more fundamentalism than I ever have before. They put a bible on me while I was asleep after I told them I didn't want one, and then burned it outside when I woke up. We are dealing with A grave menace that will take more of our freedoms away if we let it. Thats all for me, I hope the rest of you guys will also put tips for debating christians on here as well. Till then I'm out. Peace, BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Yeah! Yeah! If they are with us, then they are against us!!! Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Gods Fail Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 BuddhistCommunist, are you seriously a commie? No offense, I'm just askin'. As far as I'm concerned, it's cool. But are you like a Marxist, or Trotskyite, or old-school socialist? Anyway, xianity sucks - I'm with you on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddhistCommunist Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 You could call me a market socialist I suppose, its really the only thing that works long-term Socialism wise. I could discuss politics and economy all day! But I consider myself a Communist because of my study of Marx, My admiration of Lenin, Che, Castro and others, and my want for revolution and my rebellious nature. I consider christianity the foundation of Feudalism and modern day Capitalism and I can't stand either. I consider Christianity and Capitalism my two worst enemies, its as simple as that. Of course I do have other enemies, but i'm not getting into that. But hey if you like Capitalism then whatever your choice, but I don't like you....... Just kidding peace, BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlerman Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 The way to fight this is, to back them into a corner. If you can pin down enough evidence on the area they are defending, then they cannot win. The Exchristian community wont always be there for you, there will be many times you will have to defend what is true outside of the internet, the best thing you could do is be ready for it. Backing a fundi into a corner will never convince them their beliefs are wrong. A fundi actually once quoted to me, "A man convinced his will, remains of same opinion still". That's the only thing out the fundi community I've ever agreed with 100%. Their beliefs are not based on logic, so arguing logic won't change their minds. The only ones it might have a positive effect on are those who are humble enough, and sincere enough to accept being wrong and then it may only change their ideas about certain things. The rest, well.... they've chosen a set of truths, closed the book on personal growth, and nothing anyone can say will change anything for them. The only thing that will happen is anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Analyzing the dialog (if it could be called as such) and responses in the recent event of TheListener, you can, unfortunately, see that logic, reason or even clear conclusions of the arguments doesn't get through. The more fundamentalistic belief, the more emotionally anchored it is. The only Christians you can debate logically and even sometimes win, are the more liberal and open minded kinds (and those are the Christians that are fun to be with anyway ), but they are of course not considered "true" by the fundamentalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddhistCommunist Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 The way to fight this is, to back them into a corner. If you can pin down enough evidence on the area they are defending, then they cannot win. The Exchristian community wont always be there for you, there will be many times you will have to defend what is true outside of the internet, the best thing you could do is be ready for it. Backing a fundi into a corner will never convince them their beliefs are wrong. A fundi actually once quoted to me, "A man convinced his will, remains of same opinion still". That's the only thing out the fundi community I've ever agreed with 100%. Their beliefs are not based on logic, so arguing logic won't change their minds. The only ones it might have a positive effect on are those who are humble enough, and sincere enough to accept being wrong and then it may only change their ideas about certain things. The rest, well.... they've chosen a set of truths, closed the book on personal growth, and nothing anyone can say will change anything for them. The only thing that will happen is anger. The problem is, you can't convince someone they are wrong, you can only help them convince themselves and you usually aren't there when they deconvert. I only said you would win, not change their beliefs. My tactic would be more appropriate for someone protecting what they believe against a christian I suppose, its more like a counterattack. If they get angry well, "anger is a weapon only to ones opponent", So then you've won anyway. Just winning the battle is important for now. Winning the war is another issue entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueGiant Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Have I ever mentioned how much I like your rallying posts, BC? And this is despite the fact that we have some...uh...differences in political thought as well. Really the win is to maintain one's own freedom. It is what we have control over, and by doing so we can show others the truth, rather than telling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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