Penguin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Where do your politics stand? Did they change after you converted to reality? My politics have changed somewhat, but I'm still a Libertarian. According to the Political Compass, I'm just right of Gandhi. https://www.politicalcompass.org/test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violetbutterfly Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Mine changed. I didn't realize how many of my ideas were influenced by religion. I did an entire belief system overhaul with my deconversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 I started out as a die-hard Republican Conservative. When I got into my late teens and early twenties, I dropped out from the Republicans, but I was still very much a Conservative. I would have supported the Defense of Marriage Act, for example. By the time I hit my late twenties, I was (and am) a Libertarian who believes all people should be able to do what they want, provided they don't infringe upon the rights of others. There are things I still like and don't like--politically--since my conversion to reality. For example, I still support capital punishment, but it no longer flows from the ideas presented in Genesis 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel233 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 As a fundie Christian my politics followed every word that fell from Pat Robertson's lips. As I became less fundie my politics shifted more toward moderate Republican. Then one day I realized that the Bible was the opinion of mere men. That is when I questioned everything. I found many of my political views were founded on nothing but the Bible. I'm a moderate Democrat now, not that I trust either political party to do anything other than play the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 16, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2015 I've always hung slightly toward the left, even as a christian... but don't ever try to take my guns away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro-bear Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I left Christianity long before I was an adult or interested in politics. My politics went from Reagan Republican to Libertarian to left of everybody Democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted February 16, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2015 I left Christianity long before I was an adult or interested in politics. My politics went from Reagan Republican to Libertarian to left of everybody Democrat. Me too, though I'm more of a libertarian socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I went from moderate right to rather far left around the time I deconverted but that wasn't much caused by deconversion... more a result of rethinking many things at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel233 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Libertarian left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 I could give fuck all about political debate (especially here), but I am intrigued as to what "Libertarian socialism" and "Libertarian left" mean. Could you guys send me a private message with, like, a one or two liner about that? I'm just curious as to what it is, as I haven't heard of it before. Of course, I have about as much political knowledge and experience as, well, a politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimitedEdition Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'm a libertarian left but the dot is still somewhat close to the purple right http://gyazo.com/86d70851179b911da9b8b566a2c77c24 That sounds about correct, I know my views have gone more left but I don't believe in going too far in either direction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinas Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I seem to be getting more leftie as I get older - the politics of Christianity never sat well with me and I always tended to repeat the conservative mantras with a sullen frown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbit Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I was a flaming leftist before, during, and after my deconversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 My politics went from simply right wing to very left with some leanings to communism and aspects of anarchist theory. Even though I knew I was gay, I hated gay people in order to protect myself. Now I do not care anymore. That's a prime example of my politics. It's liberating to know that I can say gay is good and I don't have to be afraid. All of my politics are a result of my personal experiences. The funny thing, for the longest time I was unaware that I was pretty left of many people. What I took for granted that many people thought, for example, that free tertiary education was a human right. It was a shock to see people saying otherwise and it was certainly an education. Not a lovely one but enlightening. I've said things like that before I found useful labels for my political thoughts and people stared at me as if I've grown a thousand appendages. Since then, I do not talk with people about politics in real life untill they are receptive to discussing it. All of this went in tandem with my deconversion. As I get more secular, I get more firm in my political thought. I'm going more leftward as time goes on rather than being more rightward. If you wanted to meet a more conservative me, I'm afraid you would have to travel back in time to do that. So yes, deconversion has played a philosophical part in my political thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitingInfinity Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I was uber conservative under Christianity's and my family's controls. Ever since leaving, I'm slowly becoming more and more liberal. Every day I wake up more liberally-minded than the day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstar Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ ficino ♦ Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I was a limited government, Hayek low taxes Republican, but even as a Christian I never was into heavy legislation against "sin." I didn't think the govt belonged in the bedroom. I thought Christians should just try to evangelize, not legislate. Later on after I deconverted I pretty quickly voted against Republicans because they were starting to make an anti-gay, anti-lesbian stance part of their pitch. They have become MUCH worse since then. Perhaps not as strongly as Bhim thinks Christians should get out of India, I think that secularists SHOULD vote against any Republican who takes positions based on religious dogma. And at this point, that's pretty much all of them. In many states, the GOP is becoming a religious party, dominated by extremists who vote in primaries. If secularists say, "both parties are no good, so I won't vote," we hand control over to fundies, who do vote. I understand there are lots of complicating factors, that some Democrats also pander to religion, etc. But in general: VOTE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted February 20, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2015 I could give fuck all about political debate (especially here), but I am intrigued as to what "Libertarian socialism" and "Libertarian left" mean. Could you guys send me a private message with, like, a one or two liner about that? I'm just curious as to what it is, as I haven't heard of it before. Of course, I have about as much political knowledge and experience as, well, a politician. I doubt that very many reading this are familiar with those terms. My image of a vibrant libertarian socialist, perhaps anarcho-syndicalist society is probably a bit different from Noam Chomsky's, but he explains the ideas well. Power should be as local and decentralized as possible, held by working people accountable to those whom they represent (no kings in ivory towers, career politicians, bought corporate puppets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarflungWanderer Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Was a die-hard Republican Conservative. I've moved far more left socially, and I'm a bit of a Utopist along with my Humanism. I think Humanity can create a utopia someday, through the use of technology and radical changes of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrooks2007 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I was a Republican, but my belief system changed after really viewing the interest groups that gave to both sides as well as the rampant hypocrisy that followed that Republicans are the party of so-called "family values." I'm pretty much a flaming liberal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Reading the political posts here for the last couple of years a person might get the impression the default position for a former believer is some form of liberalism and the democratic party is the only real option. I was a hard core conservative Republican when I was a Christian. I've modified my political perspectives since de-converting but I'm still not a full fledged liberal. I would classify myself as an independent moderate now. I am turned off by political extremism be it liberal or conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I was always pretty Libertarian, still am. The Green party is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I was a Fox News believing conservative before my de-conversion, now the vast majority of my views are on the left side of the spectrum. It's eye opening how tied up in religion the right is. It also explains why many on the right hate atheists, especially Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ ficino ♦ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I was a Democrat by tradition even after I got saved, but I didn't think about political issues much. Then when the economy was tanking in the Carter years, and my roommates were Republicans and reading Forbes, I decided that it would be good to stop government from interfering in markets. I was surprised at how many college educated Christians I knew were supporting Reagan against the born-again Carter, and I did too. Eventually after I left Christianity, I couldn't stomach the Republicans anymore, and that was in the early '90s. Now - fuck, they want to institute Christian shariah, as Buffetphan said on another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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