Castiel233 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Is it radical to want to go and live in the Canadian wilderness. I think that is far better than working in some crappy job for 40 years and paying out a mortgage to a soulless bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOwn Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It depends. Are you a wilderness kind of person? I would die out there. But some people love it and thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 You don't know how many times i have felt like throwing in the towel and just live my life in the wilderness somewhere. You are not alone friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipVanWinkle Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Bring along 40 pair of thermal underwear. Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Bring along 40 pair of thermal underwear. Rip why when you can shit in the woods with the other animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violetbutterfly Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I've thought about what it would be like to live off the land but it would have to be somewhere down south for me. I can't handle winter as it is with modern amenities...I'd die if I had to be outside for 15 minutes in below freezing weather. I'm a tropics kind of girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Bring along 40 pair of thermal underwear. Rip why when you can shit in the woods with the other animals Heat is an issue. Washing clothes in the winter is an issue too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Bring along 40 pair of thermal underwear. Rip why when you can shit in the woods with the other animals Heat is an issue. Washing clothes in the winter is an issue too. i thought he was joking, i didn't realise he was dead serious my apologies rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybaris Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is it radical to want to go and live in the Canadian wilderness. I think that is far better than working in some crappy job for 40 years and paying out a mortgage to a soulless bank at least the fruits of your labor are directly applied to yourself and your survival. I would come down in latitude though. Takes a lot of energy to survive up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipVanWinkle Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Not dead serious; just partly serious, partly kidding. But my southern blood couldn't handle Canadian wilderness with 1,000 pair of thermal underwear worn at the same time. Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted February 23, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2015 Watch "Castaway" and pay particular attention to the tooth extraction scene. I think I'll stick with the advantages of civilization, thank you. The grass only seems greener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 And Jeremiah Johnson. Dig the hole deep enough or you catch on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Is it radical to want to go and live in the Canadian wilderness. I think that is far better than working in some crappy job for 40 years and paying out a mortgage to a soulless bank I suspect there are more than these two choices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel233 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Personally I wouldn't go, due to family commitments . I suppose my point is, why is working some where to generate profits for a boss and buying a 30 year mortgage from a bank considered normal, yet live on the land and just eat what you can forage and you are considered odd. I find the example of Daniel Suelo interesting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17762033 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Watch "Castaway" and pay particular attention to the tooth extraction scene. I think I'll stick with the advantages of civilization, thank you. The grass only seems greener. That. All those movies that talk about moving out to the "quiet of the country" as an alternative to the city life are full of shit. I was raised in the country, and I couldn't wait to live in the city. I lived in two cities for about six years total, and I can't wait to go back to the city. The "crappy job" thing is your responsibility to change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel233 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Watch "Castaway" and pay particular attention to the tooth extraction scene. I think I'll stick with the advantages of civilization, thank you. The grass only seems greener. That. All those movies that talk about moving out to the "quiet of the country" as an alternative to the city life are full of shit. I was raised in the country, and I couldn't wait to live in the city. I lived in two cities for about six years total, and I can't wait to go back to the city. The "crappy job" thing is your responsibility to change. Crappy jobs in general, not just mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sorry, the "you" I intended was in general, not specific to you, Castiel233. I didn't mean to single you out, though I inadvertently did. Sorry if I came across as a dick. People do waste their lives in jobs. I also wasted my time trying to find a job to stick with. It's a bit of a hot topic for me, but probably not fitting to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted February 23, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2015 Crappy jobs in general, not just mine... I never stayed with a crappy job until my last one, which started out good and after it turned crappy in a few years I was just looking forward to retirement so I hung in. For a good portion of my working life I was self employed. Most people who decide to work for someone other than themselves usually give their boss unquestioned control over them. Of course if you have no skills or experience you're in no position to bargain, so I recommend you get good, really good, at something and then see yourself as selling your skills to the highest bidder rather than just hoping that someone will give you a job. Very few people are forced to keep a crappy job, they just accept it as their lot in life. Don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Foraging is really hard work even in a temperate climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 If you really want to do it, go and do it. You don't want to look back 40 years later and think "I never even tried." You don't have to do it forever. You can do it until you don't feel like doing it any more, or until something gets really bad and you need to come back. Either way, you wouldn't have failed since you would have gone and done it and tried. Maybe you'll end up being one of those people who can make a serious go of it and really enjoy it for quite a long time. If you're young enough to still have 40 years ahead of you, then you should go and do it now while you have youth and resiliency. Study up on survival skills and what you'll need, but don't over-do the studying to the point of not doing it. Spend a couple summers out in the wilderness practicing tracking and hunting and survival and first aid and work out the kinks before you commit to full-time. If you aren't seriously considering doing this for family reasons, why can't you do it for a summer or two? It would be an awesome achievement. On the other hand, as far as crappy jobs -- even if you have the crappiest job, you still have time you're not working and you can certainly consider that time your "real life" to achieve what you want. You can go to your job every day to make money, then go home to your wilderness camp to live. I just read an article in the paper about a college student who made a 17-square-foot shack in the woods outside of his college, no electric or heat or running water, and every day after classes he goes there to live and study and continue his life. He enjoys the challenge and solitude. You can make your own rules. I don't think there's any rule against someone being allowed to live ONLY in the city or the country or in the woods. And there's certainly no rules about changing your mind -- maybe you'll find that every few years you truly enjoy spending a summer in the deep woods. Or winter. Whatever makes you happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I get that restless feeling every once in awhile. But few of us have the kinds of options people talk about having. Maybe you're ghettoized into a job with commitments, etc. I think at the heart of things, we feel like we "live in a box." I love the city, but by "live in a box," I mean we don't really have a whole lot of power. Absolute power over ourselves would also mean absolute responsibility. If you were a paleolithic member of a tribe, you'd have a lot less help but you would have a lot less controls put on you. I'm pretty nonstatist myself, eschew power structures in general, and often feel, as a lower middle class guy, that an awful lot gets stuck to us. I've seen those shows, with people who don't own property, have enough to live on from savings or something, and just drive around with a camper or something. A lot is pretty inconvenient, compared to what we think of. But they're not shackled in the same ways that we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparklingphoenix Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I don't think that's radical. I want to live on an island. I really don't like the slavery humans have created for themselves through society and money. Sometimes I feel like I am wasting my existence following society's expectations, but how else can we survive? :/ I'd love to find a way to get out of this system. I'd love to be a hermit on a peaceful island. I've had enough humanity problems to last me the rest of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burny Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 As a Canadian who spends a lot of time in our wilderness AND has a boring office job, I can tell you that I've thought of this many times. But than I remember how I can work my boring job and spend way more time doing what I actually love in that wilderness like climbing mountains and canoeing. If I tried to live there, I'd only have time to hunt and gather. No more free time to do whatever I want. I guess I'll keep the job for now! One comment though - live cheaper and you won't be a slave to the lender. This gives you a lot more freedom than the wild does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azisbest Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I too dreamed about such things.....when I was fourteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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