Guest Ask21771 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 i need to know what we have today that discredits the bible as the "word of God" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 i need to know what we have today that discredits the bible as the "word of God" Just about everything. The only facts found in the Bible are geography. When the Bible describes physical geography that part is true. There are also a few facts from political geography of the time in which those Bible passages were written. The rest is literature. A biblical map of the world from 1893: http://i.imgur.com/hPLXDrK.jpg A partial list of Bible contradictions: http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html A great place to read the Bible with modern comentary: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ask21771 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 i need to know what we have today that discredits the bible as the "word of God" Just about everything. The only facts found in the Bible are geography. When the Bible describes physical geography that part is true. There are also a few facts from political geography of the time in which those Bible passages were written. The rest is literature. A biblical map of the world from 1893: http://i.imgur.com/hPLXDrK.jpg Well there was someone in history named Jesus however when the bible presents itself as evidence of his escapades that's kind of like a criminal expecting the judge to take his word on his innocence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Since the stone age human cultures have invented gods. If they could write then they usually created scriptures. Why should we treat the Bible any different than all the other scriptures? Why should we treat the Christian God any different than all the other gods humans have made? Christians will often make up answers about how no other God ever sacrificed himself or loved us. It isn't true. They don't have a legitimate reason therefore their religion is special pleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ask21771 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Since the stone age human cultures have invented gods. If they could write then they usually created scriptures. Why should we treat the Bible any different than all the other scriptures? Why should we treat the Christian God any different than all the other gods humans have made? Christians will often make up answers about how no other God ever sacrificed himself or loved us. It isn't true. They don't have a legitimate reason therefore their religion is special pleading. I'm only interested in facts not alleged sacrifices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnFundEd Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 i need to know what we have today that discredits the bible as the "word of God" The onus is on the other side to prove that it IS the word of God. They don't have any credible evidence to that end. One comeback I've found sometimes gets traction is, "So why don't we think the Koran is ALSO the word of God?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ask21771 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Then there's things like evolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I agree with UnFundEd in that I think you have asked the wrong question. No one in history has ever been able to come up with a single convincing argument that the Bible is, in fact, the "word of God". It is up to those who claim it to be such to demonstrate that they are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybaris Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Ask them why their god likes this passage Ezekiel 23:20 Seriously though, there's not anything you can really say that will discourage the faithful because they'll just whip out the Almighty trump card, "I believe it's so" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted February 23, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2015 i need to know what we have today that discredits the bible as the "word of God" I'd like to know what evidence validates the claim. What you're asking is no different than asking what we have today that discredits fairies and flying pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ask21771 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ask them why their god likes this passage Ezekiel 23:20 Seriously though, there's not anything you can really say that will discourage the faithful because they'll just whip out the Almighty trump card, "I believe it's so" What does the passage mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 simple:god makes all kinds of promises to you if you obey him. so obey him, you'll find that none of his promises come true, there for proving the god/jesus of the bible either to be a liar (it's not the word of god) or non existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertbag Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I always found Noah's Ark was the most swiss cheese of bible stories. If you want physical proof the bible is wrong then compare the numerous problems that story has with the real world. Global flood vs geography, animal distribution, incest to repopulate the planet etc. Of course it can depend on which type of Christian you are talking to, some are happy to believe it was a moral story and not fact. Leads to the whole problem of what stories are real and which are just moral guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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