Llwellyn Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Nice! I think the same kind of thing could be said with respect to Yahweh, Allah, or Platonic Goodness. If I were evil incarnate, I would pout if other persons saw things differently than me: "The wicked, those who love violence, the Lord hates with a passion." Psalm 11
Castiel233 Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 The Lord has "passion" and He is claimed to be "jealous" as well.....sounds very much like a human invention to me.....................
DragonTheDruid Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I've had similar thoughts to that pic in the first point not only recently, but also back when I was an xian. Because I thought how church always says how Satan is a deceiver and wants you to turn away from God, etc, and what better way to do that than to make people believe you were God? Or in the case of this picture, the son of God. Though if that's the case, and the God or Jesus most people believe in and worship is actually Satan, it realllllly wouldn't be that hard for the real God to let all the xians and other people know they were wrong and Satan's playing pretend and 'Don't worship that one, /I'm/ the real thing'. Course he does no such thing regardless.... I'd love how ironic it'd be for God/Yahweh to actually be Lucifer though.
Guest Furball Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I have wondered this at times as well. Maybe that's why god really crucified jesus, because he was claiming to be the son of god when he really wasn't. Correct me if i am wrong but it seems like jesus at times brings a different message than what the god of the old testament taught. It's all bad, i know, but some of the stuff in the gospels and letters seems to stray away from what is said in the old testament. Maybe o.t. god got pissed and killed jesus for being a false prophet. Remember that verse in the old testament that if a prophet claims to speak in the name of the lord and that thing does not come to pass, then it says you shall not fear that man. Well, none of jesus prophesies came true, so maybe he really was a false prophet and god took him out. I know it is all fiction, but just for the sake of the conversation. -Cat
mymistake Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 If you really look at Judaism it is so far and away from Christianity in practice that the older religion would look upon Christianity as a false religion. It really doesn't make sense that a God would make all the demands of Judaism only to abandon those demands later. Of course Christianity needs the Old Testament and the whole "complete the law" dogma because without it Christianity has no legitimacy at all. But for God to demand all those blood sacrifices and smiting all those people and making up all those barbaric rules only to say "Just kidding!" doesn't look legitimate either. 2
moanareina Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Oh...thinking of posting this on my facebook wall this coming good Friday... And if I was the devil I would not own drug companies but go around to tell everybody and especially well meaning naturalists that psychiatric disorders where not real...and psychologists where evil...and doctors and the pharmaceutical industry where all about the money and therefore not interested in curing people but keeping them dependent...and the devil was hiding behind every corner... 1
GoldenWolf Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I did question something similar at one point. I also thought what if God was the bad guy and Lucifer was the good guy?
FreeThinkerNZ Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I think Lucifer is way more good than God. Lucifer is into questioning and seeking knowledge, which in my view is good.
rach Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Jesus Christ might truly have been the son of God. Son of an evil god. There's a part of the Bible where Jesus alludes to his disciples that he is about to undergo a baptism that they cannot understand. What he means to say is "one day, I am going to be baptized with my own blood." He almost seems to be excited about it. Christians need to allow themselves to understand that this is demented behavior. There is something much more sinister than the Devil. That is, a man who is convinced he is good & a savior, but is actually deranged. 1
Ellinas Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 You are teetering on the edge of gnosticism... I think Lucifer is way more good than God. Lucifer is into questioning and seeking knowledge, which in my view is good. You have a point. Lucifer (the light bearer) represents, in my view, the spirit of human enquiry - as fearless and insubordinate as it needs to be to achieve its' proper development. However, it strikes me that the issue here is the impossibility of separating the essential "moral quality" of god and of satan when examining the Christian economy. The latter can seem quite sympathetic, particularly when compared with the genocidal tyranny of the former.
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