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Christianity's whole premise is based on the fact that Jesus supposedly comes from the seed of Abraham. If we can nullify Abraham, then the rest of the story is false, so let’s give it a bash:

 

According to Biblical chronology, Abraham moved to Canaan about 1700-2100 BCE. But it’s impossible, as Abraham is said to have come from the Chaldean city of Ur that did not exist until after 1000 BCE.

 

Genesis tells us that Abraham’s son Isaac sought help from Abimelech, the king of the Philistines, yet the Philistines were not a presence in the area until after 1200 BCE.

 

The camel is frequently mentioned in the stories of Abraham and the other patriarchs, but the domestication of the camel did not happen until around 1000 BCE.

 

Abraham was invented for the sake of Jewish history, as much as Jesus was invented for Christian history.

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Don't forget Moses. Egyptians and Syrians kept very good records at the time, and there is no mention of Moses, Jewish slaves, or a mass migration of these slaves out of Egypt. You would think some Egyptian scribe would have thought these things were worth mentioning.

 

There are also striking similarities between the myths of the Egyptian god Horus and Moses. Which also brings us to the similarities between Mithra and Jesus. Face it people, you are worshiping refabricated pagan gods!

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The Roman Empire was a melting pot of religions. Christianity is just another Ancient Pagan Religion. Here's food for thought:

 

Let us begin with Zeus, whom we mortals never leave unspoken.

For every street, every marketplace is full of Zeus.

Even the sea and the harbor are full of this deity.

Everywhere everyone is indebted to Zeus,

For we are indeed his offspring.

[Phenomena 1- 5, The stoic poet Aratus (c 310 - 240 BC)]

 

In Him we live and move and have our being; as even some of your poets have said, 'For we are indeed his offspring.'

Paul, Apostle to the Gentiles, Acts 17.28

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Don't forget Moses. Egyptians and Syrians kept very good records at the time, and there is no mention of Moses, Jewish slaves, or a mass migration of these slaves out of Egypt. You would think some Egyptian scribe would have thought these things were worth mentioning.

What?! I have it on good authority that Moses lived in Egypt. Hollywood. Movies don't lie.

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Christianity's whole premise is based on the fact that Jesus supposedly comes from the seed of Abraham. If we can nullify Abraham, then the rest of the story is false, so let’s give it a bash:

 

According to Biblical chronology, Abraham moved to Canaan about 1700-2100 BCE. But it’s impossible, as Abraham is said to have come from the Chaldean city of Ur that did not exist until after 1000 BCE.

 

Genesis tells us that Abraham’s son Isaac sought help from Abimelech, the king of the Philistines, yet the Philistines were not a presence in the area until after 1200 BCE.

 

The camel is frequently mentioned in the stories of Abraham and the other patriarchs, but the domestication of the camel did not happen until around 1000 BCE.

 

Abraham was invented for the sake of Jewish history, as much as Jesus was invented for Christian history.

 

That link you provided says that Ur was a city before 2,000 BCE?

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That link you provided says that Ur was a city before 2,000 BCE?

Hi Justin

 

If you read a little further into that link, then you will notice Ur as it relates to the Chaldeans as the Bible describes it was not around at the time. It's not Ur that's in dispute, but the Biblical Ur.

 

That link you provided says that Ur was a city before 2,000 BCE?

Hi Justin

 

If you read a little further into that link, then you will notice Ur as it relates to the Chaldeans as the Bible describes it was not around at the time. It's not Ur that's in dispute, but the Biblical Ur.

 

The Pentateuch contains telltale items that make Mosaic authorship impossible. Most prominent are geographic discrepancies such as Genesis 11:28 and 15:7, which referred to "Ur of the Chaldees." Ur was a Sumerian city during the time of Abraham. It had become a Babylonia city before the time of Moses, who would have thought of it as such. The Chaldeans did not enter history until several decades after Moses, and it was more years still before they became dominant enough in the area to merit referring to it as Chaldea. Either Shinar (Sumeria) or Babylonia would have been used by Moses to locate Ur rather than Chaldea.

 

http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/...5/995moses.html

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Oh ok, i see what it says now. Thanks :Doh:

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Christianity's whole premise is based on the fact that Jesus supposedly comes from the seed of Abraham. If we can nullify Abraham, then the rest of the story is false, so let’s give it a bash:

 

That's not gonna work with fundies. Their answer is "you have your historian we have ours.". Stalemate.

 

To me the only way to defeat the christians is by using the bible itself. The theology between the NT and OT is different, that it is sufficient by itself to show that is man made.

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30 second refutation! Thunderbolt is the Rachel Ray of apostacy!

 

 

 

sorry, it was just the first thing I thought when I saw this, ... carry on.

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To me the only way to defeat the christians is by using the bible itself. The theology between the NT and OT is different, that it is sufficient by itself to show that is man made.

 

I agree. While debunking Jesus' lineage adds more evidence against Xianity, the best way to fight it is to use the Babble itself and show how Xianity fails when its own holy book is objectively examined. 30 seconds of Babble quotes that contradict each other, show failed prophecies, or display the cruelty and oppressiveness of Xianity goes a long way in helping folks out of spiritual slavery.

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Jesus is kind of a cocktail of Egyptian Gods, particularly Osirus and Horus. Check out the following linky:

 

http://tektonics.org/copycat/osy.html

 

You realise that link is to a site that tries to debunk the "Christianity-is-based-on-pagan-religions" belief?

 

Try this instead...

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