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Yep! All that what Loren said!

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Well welcome! Make yourself comfortable.. Fuck them fundies and come to this website...

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Hi I am a 23 yr old MTF transsexual who has found this site....thank God (no pun intended). I never was fully indoctrinated in the Xtian religion, baptized Lutheran, but never really went to church. I always hated religion, especially Xtianity. It seems like non-believers are so much more nicer and accomadating. I live in South Dakota, (the most screwed up northern state in my opinion outside of Idaho) and it seems like every one here is a Xtian. Even Hot Topic here is full of them. I hope I came to the right place.

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Hi I am a 23 yr old MTF transsexual who has found this site....thank God (no pun intended). I never was fully indoctrinated in the Xtian religion, baptized Lutheran, but never really went to church. I always hated religion, especially Xtianity. It seems like non-believers are so much more nicer and accomadating. I live in South Dakota, (the most screwed up northern state in my opinion outside of Idaho) and it seems like every one here is a Xtian. Even Hot Topic here is full of them. I hope I came to the right place.

 

Hi Vanesa, welcome to the site! You have found the right place. :woohoo:

 

Mods, perhaps we can move this to its own thread?

 

JP

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Hi I am a 23 yr old MTF transsexual who has found this site....thank God (no pun intended).

[...] I hope I came to the right place.

 

Welcome Vanesa, greetings from chilly Germany (oh boy, 6 °C in the middle of May!).

 

Many people of kinds have found a comfortable place here, why should it be different for you? Come on in and make yourself at home ;)

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Hi, Purple Rino. I am at a lost for words after reading your testimony. I feel so angry at how the people when you were a kid hurt you trying to rob you of your own selfhood. But you wouldn't become on of their christ-bots so they upped the ante on you going so far as to lock you up against your will in some reform school hoping that would "beat the gayness" out of you. I thought that kind of stuff was illegal until reading so many stories on the same vein.

 

I also grew up in a church that was as disfunctional as my home life. I sought help from the man I thought for sure would help me. After all, he was a "man of god". I wanted him to at least talk to my parents about how their behavior was hurting me. He would promise week after week until finally, he said that he wasn't even going to do it and blamed the situation on me at that.

 

So I know what it feels like to have no one listening to you or who's after your best interests. I hope, like me and many on this board, that talking here will help you heal your wounds. This is a great place to do it without all the judgement you sometimes get from other people.

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I want to thank everyone who posted here. As well as those who took the time to read my testimony. Your support and encouragement have shown me more hope and understanding than I could have imagined.

 

In a very short time I have been made to feel welcome and, most of all, heard. It's a good feeling and I hope to give back understanding, compassion, and hope to current and future travelers who stop and visit here.

 

I'm sure that all of the Ex's know the relief of finally being able to communicate with people who actually can relate to the complex rollercoaster of experiencing and shedding the insidious lies of religion.

 

PR

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Purple Rhino,

 

You have come a long, hard way. The journey has been perilous and some scars remain from weapons that have been wielded by those who have hated you well. Still, you are stronger for your journey and I believe you have fared well.

 

I hate what Christianity did to us!

 

I hate what it all too often makes of its disciples. It's insidiously wicked at the core, with cunning subtlety where forthrightness ought to be paramount, using manipulative and seductive reasoning while espousing honesty and transparency, promoting altruistic values while providing treacherously immoral footing.

 

Confused as they are, no wonder so many Christians who had some measure of authority in your life took advantage of your tender years and betrayed your trust. I hate what they did to you. At least here, we can relate to you; you are free to speak and you are understood.

 

As you know by now, PR, this is a good place to offload baggage and to shed some old skin. I hope you will make yourself completely at home in this place. We are not perfect so we have to try harder. :)

 

-Reach

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I hate what it all too often makes of its disciples. It's insidiously wicked at the core, with cunning subtlety where forthrightness ought to be paramount, using manipulative and seductive reasoning while espousing honesty and transparency, promoting altruistic values while providing treacherously immoral footing.

 

 

:eek: So concise, so disturbingly accurate.

 

From one writer to another, my friend :thanks:

 

Such eloquence is delightfully relevant to me right now - thank you very much :kiss:

 

-Lokmer

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... At least here, we can relate to you; you are free to speak and you are understood.

 

As you know by now, PR, this is a good place to offload baggage and to shed some old skin. I hope you will make yourself completely at home in this place. We are not perfect so we have to try harder.  :)

 

-Reach

 

Reach Thanks. I have found this a safe place to not only unload but also exchange ideas and encouragement.

 

It's a nice feeling to be fully open and free of masks and veils from the get go.

 

:eek:   So concise, so disturbingly accurate. 

 

From one writer to another, my friend :thanks:  

 

Such eloquence is delightfully relevant to me right now - thank you very much :kiss:

 

-Lokmer

 

Lokmer well stated :)

 

PR

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Guest vanesa

Thank you for your welcomes, all of you. It's getting so bad that even the Unitarian church here is more of a COC (Catholic Occupied Congregation). Even many TG groups are somewhat evanglized and that makes for a deadly mix.

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Vanesa, what kinds of evangelizing are brought to TG groups? I would think fundies wouldn't quite have a ready press packet for those groups.

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Thank you for your welcomes, all of you. It's getting so bad that even the Unitarian church here is more of a COC (Catholic Occupied Congregation). Even many TG groups are somewhat evanglized and that makes for a deadly mix.

There are lots of deadly mixes out there, aren't there? The one that seems to raise the hair on the back of my neck is the fundy Baptist background Charismatic. :ugh:

 

Welcome, Vanesa! :)

 

I look forward to reading your posts here on Ex-C. May I suggest you start another thread so you can better introduce yourself and we can better welcome you?

 

Great to have another like-minded thinking individual aboard! Enjoy your stay!

 

Reach

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  • 3 weeks later...

Your honesty and strength are an inspiration to anybody who happens to come across ex-Christian.net and click, PR, regardless of how deeply they were involved in the death cult or what scars they may be carrying.

 

I can see by your current post count that you have found the time to become a valuable asset to the forums, but just in case life happens and you become too busy to log on very often, I figured I might as well give your testimony a bump.

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PR - what a bitch of a testimony. I feel for ya. Life sucks sometimes. I hope you are o.k.

 

You'll have to look long and hard to find anyone to judge you or try to change you here.

 

I never have understood Christianity's obsession with homosexuality. Even when I was a thumper I wouldn't have condemned you.. people are people, and they are what they are. I'm straight, but I definitely have my quirks.

 

When I first joined the last church I was in, one of the first things the pastor said was that "no homosexuals will ever be allowed in this church".

 

And, me and my big mouth, I said, well ya, but you feel the same about ALL sinful behavior, right? Like pride, envy, pornography, gossip?

 

He looked at me like I was nuts. He was so flabbergasted he couldn't even answer.

 

I no longer believe the Bible is any kind of a representation of God. It's an antiquated book that belongs to an antiquated generation. Therefore I no longer worry about the many many ways to sin presented therein.

 

Welcome to this forum (although I know I'm about a month late). You are among friends.

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I'm new here, too -- another refugee from Pentecostalism (the crazy "oneness" bunch), and gay as well. It's really amazing that any of us escaped that mind poison alive -- we should all consider ourselves fortunate!

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vanesa

"I live in South Dakota, (the most screwed up northern state in my opinion outside of Idaho"

 

What? All you have to do is be a near clone of everyone else? I mean common! How can you expect people to be nice to you when you just want to be yourself? Individuality = disrespect and hatred. How can you be so intolerant by not living up to the norms of the herd?

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haha, mind poison..

 

i have similar views on homosexuality, people are just people, who cares?

 

anyways, welcome.. you will enjoy it here :)

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Guest WhatIsTruth9

I was just reading your testimony and damn. I'm so sorry you've been put through all those things.

 

Both my husband and I have gotten a lot of crap from Christianity because of our bisexuality. But we are learning to overcome the "mind poison", as best we can.

 

I'm just glad we are here now so we can give each other support, in our deconversion process.

 

And to just hang about and talk..

 

BTW..I love you avatar...

 

Cheers

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There is much more as you can imagine but this is how it all came out trying to write it. For the past 5 years I have just ignored any type of spirituality. And thought that with everything behind me I could just be. But I don’t seem to be able to get over the anger and downright hatred of christians and what they stand for. I also am angry with myself for playing christian for so many years waiting for it to become ‘real’ to me.

 

I’m lost as to what else to say and don’t want to loose my nerve before I post this. So forgive typos and grammatical errors please. And thanks for being here. I think I need you.

 

PR, I'm so very deeply sorry of the horrific emotional abuse you suffered in the name of 'love'. I'm just beside myself with grief for what you were put thru. I loath and detest the extremist fundys with the deepest passion possible. I understand now what you ment in how my story relates to yours. Yours is far more traumatizing, and I admire your strength to be able to post it and share it. Your post could perhaps someday some time Help someone that is in your similar situation. my heart breaks at the thought that their are people everyday put into those sort of camps or whatever they are called to change people.

 

One of my deepest desires in life is to be able to watch those that inflict pain and atrocities like this, suffer under their own Judgment and rules. I want them to suffer the pain they have inflicted on the masses. It pisses me off they take ZERO responsibility for their actions against people, they walk thru life believing they are saving people when the reality is they are destroying people, and families. They detest individuality and encourage group think.

 

It's pure evil to the core, religion,

 

You are very strong never forget that.

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I was just reading your testimony and damn.  I'm so sorry you've been put through all those things. 

 

Both my  husband and I have gotten a lot of crap from Christianity because of our bisexuality.  But we are learning to overcome the "mind poison", as best we can.

 

I'm just glad we are here now so we can give each other support, in our deconversion process.

 

And to just hang about and talk..

 

BTW..I love you avatar...

 

Cheers

 

W9, (can I call you that? it's meant to be friendly not just lazy lol)

 

First off Welcome to the group! In the very short time I have been here I am dumbfounded by the honest caring and friendly support I have found! And am sure that you and your husband will find nothing less.

 

Thanks also for the kind comments on my extimony. I have been able to deal with much more of the wreckage personally sinse I actually posted it and started to get it out of me. If that makes any sense, like draining the poison and not just picking at the wounds.

 

I hope that you and your husband find it easier to help one another with this forum here to lean on when you tire of going through the labyrinth away from the cult back to sanity and actual living.

 

All the best and look forward to getting to know you on the boards.

 

PR

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PR, I'm so very deeply sorry of the horrific emotional abuse you suffered in the name of 'love'.  ...

 

It pisses me off they take ZERO responsibility for their actions against people, they walk thru life believing they are saving people when the reality is they are destroying people, and families. They detest individuality and encourage group think. 

 

It's pure evil to the core, religion,

 

You are very strong never forget that.

 

Japedo,

 

You're so sweet thank you.

Somehow I just knew that I was strong enough to do whatever I had to, to survive. My heart today is for the people (not always just kids) who find themselves in the grips of these power freaks. But also I do charity work for several groups to secure rights of GLBTQs so that these types of 'programs' have less appeal and people are aware that Gay is not an illness. A long with hospice work and helping children and families affected/inflicted with HIV/AIDS. Again all of the support that people can get when tragedy hits, without them having to crawl down to a church altar.

 

For me it has been very healing to see what I came out of and contrast it with what some have to face and deal with every day. My wounds are slow to heal but they do heal.

 

And thanks for being such a warm, funny person I honestly enjoy corresponding with you. We can continue to move forward together! :grin:

 

PR

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